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Disney reportedly unhappy with Rogue One

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bunbun777 said:
Sounds like the movie is too good, probably with deep thematic undertones and artistic vision that flew over the heads of the mass sheeple audience.
At least that's what I'm going to tell myself.
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Considering that's exactly what's happened with Garrett Edward's Godzilla, this would not shock me.

Not even being sarcastic. That movie is so much better than people give it credit for.
 
Bummer if true. Everything I'd seen and heard so far made it look much more promising than the disappointing please-everyone-and-no-one The Force Awakens.
 
LastNac said:
In all seriousness though, I do wonder if Disney feels it's not Star Wars enough. TFA was a beat for beat reboot of Star Wars and people seemed to love it. I wonder if this one is perhaps too different than what has come before.
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That was the pitch for Rogue One, though. Tell a story rooted in the familiar with an approach and style new to the franchise. It doesn't make sense to me that they'd get this far along and then hit the panic button.
 
I thought that the trailer looked good but nothing more, it looks like a pretty big step down from Force Awakens to me. I'm fine with this movie turning out to be less-than-great though since it's just a spin-off.
 
Disney (or anyone) is delusional if they want Rogue One to perform like TFA. They should maintain the feel and quality of the picture, but no one in their right mind should think Rogue One will perform anything like TFA.

But reshoots are becoming more common. Not surprised.
 
If Lucasfilms last picture was a 2billion hit, why would Disney step in? It's the same with Marvel or Pixar. As long as they deliver, they don't seem to interfere.

If the last Star Wars does something like 400mil WW. Then I could believe it.
 
GhaleonEB said:
That was the pitch for Rogue One, though. Tell a story rooted in the familiar with an approach and style new to the franchise. It doesn't make sense to me that they'd get this far along and then hit the panic button.
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Good thing nobody, except the writer of that article, actually hit the panic button then.
 
WadiumArcadium said:
Who?
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Instead we got this guy:
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spuckthew said:
This is what I'm thinking. I reckon Disney just want generic money-making blockbuster #84, and Edwards is making it too deep for Disney's desired audience.
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Come the fuck on. What part of Godzilla or even Monsters was deep? Edwards isn't some Kubrick full of depth high intellect director, or at least he hasn't shown that he is.
 
Are reshoots on a film a bad thing?

No.

Are they definite signs that the film is going to be a disaster?

No.

But if, per the original source, four weeks of reshoots are being undertaken then that is more than just additional material and pick ups. For a project of this size that could represent as much as 20-25% of the original principal photography.

That signals that major changes are being made to the narrative/tone of the film.

Again, that is if we're assuming the original source is correct.
 
Bebpo said:
Come the fuck on. What part of Godzilla or even Monsters was deep? Edwards isn't some Kubrick full of depth high intellect director, or at least he hasn't shown that he is.
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Bruh don't you remember that scene where kickass stared blankly into godzilla's face for 30 seconds symbolizing the link between man and beast. Bruh shit was deep.
 
Mushroomer25 said:
Considering that's exactly what's happened with Garrett Edward's Godzilla, this would not shock me.

Not even being sarcastic. That movie is so much better than people give it credit for.
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Nah, man. That movie is riddled with problems, starting with all the inert human drama except perhaps for Cranston's early part. There's a healthy amount of really generic action movie tropes, too. About the only thing it did well was create a good sense of scale.
 
Well this sounds like it's going to be a boardroom-directed, too-many-cooks, over focus-tested mess once it gets out. Watch the original directors rough cut leak at some point and be far superior.
 
I refuse to believe this.

Please be good.

140.85 said:
Well this sounds like it's going to be a boardroom-directed, too-many-cooks, over focus-tested mess once it gets out. Watch the original directors rough cut leak at some point and be far superior.
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Why does it sound like that to you?

I swear, you guys make Disney sound like a company that only puts out shit.
 
140.85 said:
Well this sounds like it's going to be a boardroom-directed, too-many-cooks, over focus-tested mess once it gets out. Watch the original directors rough cut leak at some point and be far superior.
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If Disney only put out hot garbage then this would be a problem.
 
They might bring in George Lucas to course correct, since it's objective fact that TFA is a garbage fire that nothing should aspire to. Kathy Kennedy might drop off the face of the earth in shame for having destroyed the legacy of Lucasfilm. They might hire Terry Gilliam to reshoot the entire film just to ensure production problems and natural disasters render the film impossible to finish so they can just sweep the whole thing under the rug. That's what I'm getting from the OP anyways.
 
I really don't think Edwards is a good director and kind of hoping Lucasfilm/Disney learn that the hard way. Star Wars needs endearing characters and that is not his strong suit by a long shot.
Dan said:
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Nah, man. That movie is riddled with problems, starting with all the inert human drama except perhaps for Cranston's early part. There's a healthy amount of really generic action movie tropes, too. About the only thing it did well was create a good sense of scale.
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I like the cut of your jib.
 
What did he mean by this? said:
I wonder if Edwards will even be directing the reshoots,
This might be a Fantastic 4 situation
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Per DGA rules I believe that it's vey difficult to kick a director off his own film even when it comes to reshoots.

i do not envision a situation where Edwards isn't the one directing the reshoots unless the studio brings in a 'consultant' to 'help' him.
 
-griffy- said:
They might bring in George Lucas to course correct, since it's objective fact that TFA is a garbage fire that nothing should aspire to. Kathy Kennedy might drop off the face of the earth in shame for having destroyed the legacy of Lucasfilm. They might hire Terry Gilliam to reshoot the entire film just to ensure production problems and natural disasters render the film impossible to finish so they can just sweep the whole thing under the rug. That's what I'm getting from the OP anyways.
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Dire situations like these..we should all be asking ourselves - What would Zach Snyder do?
 
SomewhatGroovy said:
Has any other Star Wars film ever had a reshoot ?
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Most of them.

Off the top of my head:

Empire
Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
The Force Awakens

I think Star Wars didn't because they were already overbudget and couldn't get Fox to pay for them, and Jedi didn't because Lucas was already helping get B-unit stuff before he took over post-production.

I might be fuzzy on that though (I think Jedi might have had a few reshoots) I'm old now. But I'm pretty sure almost every Star Wars movie has had reshoots to some degree. Most movies do. That's part of the editing process. You do the assembly cut, you do the rough cut, you do another rough cut, you get your notes, you make more notes, and you realize that you need this scene and this scene in order to connect stuff you've already shot.

Every time there's an announcement of reshoots, fans go all Chicken Little and the stories go flying around the internet and everyone thinks everything is doomed because the film didn't go off without a hitch on the first take, every take. And then the movie comes out and people forget they ever did this dance, until someone like Page Six rings the bell and we're cutting this dusty-ass rug all over again.
 
Bobby Roberts said:
Most of them.

Off the top of my head:

Empire
Phantom Menace
Attack of the Clones
Revenge of the Sith
The Force Awakens

I think Star Wars didn't because they were already overbudget and couldn't get Fox to pay for them, and Jedi didn't because Lucas was already helping get B-unit stuff before he took over post-production.

I might be fuzzy on that though (I think Jedi might have had a few reshoots) I'm old now. But I'm pretty sure almost every Star Wars movie has had reshoots to some degree. Most movies period do. That's part of the editing process. You do the assembly cut, you do the rough cut, you do another rough cut, you get your notes, you make more notes, and you realize that you need this scene and this scene in order to connect stuff you've already shot.

Every time there's an announcement of reshoots, fans go all Chicken Little and the stories go flying around the internet and everyone thinks everything is doomed because the film didn't go off without a hitch on the first take, every take. And then the movie comes out and people forget they ever did this dance, until someone like Page Six rings the bell and we're cutting this dusty-ass rug all over again.
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IIRC, one of the many smart things Lucasfilm did PR-wise for the prequels was openly talk about pre-scheduled blocks of time for reshoots and pickups. Probably not a bad idea especially now in the age of even more information and intense fanboy scrutiny.
 
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