DiipuSurotu
Banned
So he's the token white guy? I bet he'll be the first one to die
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Disney's Live-Action 'Aladdin' Casts Billy Magnussen as New Character
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This thing is turning into a fucking joke lol.
ginger ninja
Banned
I would say the reactions come off as..racist.
Imagine there's a LOTR remake in 20 years:
"Why are they putting a black guy in there, there was no black guys in the original !!"
Diversity cuts both ways.
HP_Wuvcraft
Banned
This is Guy Ritchie, though, so I fully expect Anders and Mena to have their own romance subplot.
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Shame "Anders" sounds North European. It should have been a Greek character, that way he could have crossed over to the Disney Hercules live-action remake.
This isn't very nuanced. Adding a minority to an otherwise all-white movie has it's basis in increasing representation for people who are historically underrepresented. Adding a white guy to a movie that is otherwise not white comes from studios only being comfortable with white actors or believing that white audiences will only show up for white actors.
Whether something is done well is a different matter, because we also want to avoid tokenism in increasing diversity.
Chmpocalypse
Blizzard
So this is what an abortion in cinematic form looks like...
Except there were already brown and black people in LOTR...they all were fighting for Sauron while all the good guys were white.
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[IMG]https://qph.ec.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-5d443364e328636b0cdcfa9b9d1e7fa8-c[/IMG]For the same reason Beauty and the beast had black people in a parisian village.
Fancyarcher
Member
They just need one "normal guy" to be there, amidst all the madness, I see, urgh.
Disney will reign in Ritchie, don't worry.
Disney will reign in Ritchie, don't worry.
Oh boy, a neutered Guy Ritchie movie. Sounds wonderful. Why hire Guy Ritchie if you don't want him to make a Guy Ritchie movie?
They'll probably dump his ass like a Star Wars director.
ETA: If anything I expect Disney to push for more CG bullcrap.
WrenchNinja
Member
Sibersk Esto
Banned
He looks like an Aryan Tobey Maguire.
Vulcano's assistant
Banned
That is some Drik Diggler quality name.
edit: Dude got looks too.
edit: Dude got looks too.
dammit
Brock Reiher
Banned
"We knew modern audiences are sick of seeing the same old story, it's been in pop culture for literally hundreds of years! So then we thought- what if we could put our own twist on it, one audiences would never see coming? And having 'Aladdin' the film have the character of Aladdin die tragically in the opening minutes was the obvious choice, and that's where Billy comes in."
BlueTsunami
there is joy in sucking dick
Film to be renamed Torbjørn of Arabia
This is nonsense. There are barely any Arab roles of note in Hollywood. Most of the time we're either villains, played by actors who aren't Arab, or both. So you finally have film where the story is set in the Middle East, where the majority of the characters are Arabs, and yet Hollywood is so god damn spineless that they can't let that stand on it's own. Why not make this new character another minority? Why can't this character also be Arab?
Cast a fair skinned Arab person then, why do white caucasians get to play fair skinned people of color?
Elegant Weapon
Member
Elegant Weapon
Member
🎼 Arabian whiiiiiiiiiiiites 🎼
It's always perplexing to me how white people claim whiteness of people from some parts of the world, I remember it happening a lot when the Prince of Persia.movie released. They only want to claim their whiteness when it benefits them.
Fact of the matter is, no matter how "white" a Semite can get, they'll still have Semitic facial features and not Euro-Caucasion features, it's as stupid as claiming a Chinese person is white because of the fair skin.
MagnaderAlpha
Member
Diversity only cuts both ways on a level playing field. It isn't and hasn't been level for minorities...EVER. It has always slanted towards the whites, and yet some still feel like whites are underrepresented to the point that not including them is, gasp, an act of RACISM. I'm surprised you didn't included something stupid like "White Actors Matter" or some shit like that.
TurnipFritters
Member
It's super weird how Disney was having so much trouble finding an actor to play Aladdin but then they found this dude who was so amazing they had to create a part specifically for him.
Brock Reiher
Banned
It's Aladdin my man.
Plus people did try to say stuff like that when it came to Finn in TFA and Human Torch in F4ntastic, but other people quickly corrected them and pointed out how it's a different situation because of the history of American film.
Don't forget turning King Arthur into a cockney criminal from the streets, raised in a whorehouse. That Guy Ritchie is a hoot. I honestly don't understand what Disney was thinking hiring him.
-Plasma Reus-
Service guarantees member status
Holy fuck.
Burn this movie to the ground. What in the fuck.
Wow.
Burn this movie to the ground. What in the fuck.
Wow.
Brock Reiher
Banned
Hey, Aladdin gets three wishes.
bearythebear
Member
Look guys, they needed someone for the China poster
Steeped in a Sea of Games
Member
I can see it now. The movie opens with a brown man looting the cave of wonders. He stumbles across a lamp, but as he picks it up, the cave begins to crumble all around him. He races for the exit through a myriad of traps, but the jaws to the outside close down just as he's stretching his arm towards freedom, lamp in hand...
From outside the cave we see the lamp come rolling down a sandy dune in the twilight of a well lit night, coming to a stop softly at the foot of it. We focus in on the lamp and all is quiet for just a moment, though we aren't aware of how much time is passing. Suddenly, a gloved hand appears from the side of the screen and scoops the lamp up. The hand belongs to a man who's face is covered by a turban and cloth, apparently part of a trader's caravan as the bustle of activity behind him seems to show. A man on a camel calls out, "What's the hold up, Aladdin?" The man brushes sand gently off the lamp and pulls down his scarf to get a better look at his newfound prize. Revealed underneath the scarf is a young, ruggedly handsome white man who calls out, one eyebrow raised,
"I already told you, my name is Allen Dyne!"
"Whatever you say, Aladdin."
Allen grins at the lamp and tucks it into his satchel. The camera pans up into the sky for a landscape shot as he runs to rejoin to the caravan, a magnificent palace glowing on the horizon. Dramatic Arabian music begins to crescendo and the words "Disney's ALADDIN" appears on the screen for a triumphant moment before everything goes to black. The adventure has now begun.
From outside the cave we see the lamp come rolling down a sandy dune in the twilight of a well lit night, coming to a stop softly at the foot of it. We focus in on the lamp and all is quiet for just a moment, though we aren't aware of how much time is passing. Suddenly, a gloved hand appears from the side of the screen and scoops the lamp up. The hand belongs to a man who's face is covered by a turban and cloth, apparently part of a trader's caravan as the bustle of activity behind him seems to show. A man on a camel calls out, "What's the hold up, Aladdin?" The man brushes sand gently off the lamp and pulls down his scarf to get a better look at his newfound prize. Revealed underneath the scarf is a young, ruggedly handsome white man who calls out, one eyebrow raised,
"I already told you, my name is Allen Dyne!"
"Whatever you say, Aladdin."
Allen grins at the lamp and tucks it into his satchel. The camera pans up into the sky for a landscape shot as he runs to rejoin to the caravan, a magnificent palace glowing on the horizon. Dramatic Arabian music begins to crescendo and the words "Disney's ALADDIN" appears on the screen for a triumphant moment before everything goes to black. The adventure has now begun.
Astral Dog
Member
I thought we had new Jaffar for that 😕
Even people from the Levant rarely look that white, though.
There were blonde haired blue eyed white people in the cartoon?
Can you point to a specific post and explain what exactly makes it racist?
Inferno313
Banned
Yes. There's a serious shortage of white actors in cinema. I'm glad you brought attention to this important cause.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
I mean it's pretty funny. A story set in ancient-ish Arabia and they find some way to include a white guy that has never been included in any well known version of the story.
It's an odd addition no doubt about that. Not even the original version catered to mainstreamed audience bothered with this but the second it includes real Arabs they must find a way.
It's an odd addition no doubt about that. Not even the original version catered to mainstreamed audience bothered with this but the second it includes real Arabs they must find a way.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
The guys name is Prince Anders. Why are you even assumming he's supposed to be arabian in the first place?
I think you're misreading that. The budget is so big they need tax rebates from Spain, and they don't want to chance a budget of that size on "Muhammed so-and-so"
That's not a quote from Disney.