Yes, if only the developer put in difficulties so you could adjust the challenge... wait, they did. I didn't encounter all the bugs you mentioned, but then I'm playing the updated version, so I'm sure much of that got fixed. The game is pretty brutal on hard. I have points in regen and healing, and I'm still overwhelmed sometimes. Normal is a cakewalk. It should be marked as easy.Drinky Crow said:well, relatively well-balanced. put it this way: despite abusing lightning spells and blood magic and healing in dragon age, i still died more than i did in dks. i had to work a little to abuse it. in dks, all i needed to do was put points in regen. i could walk through poison and fire and GAIN hp. FANTASIC WORK, LARIAN
There is a joke in here somewhere about Europe.Haunted said:edit: while we're on the actual content topic, what is up with the atrocious human (NPC) modelling in these RPGs. I do wish the Fallout, Two Worlds II and Risen devs would've looked at some actual human beings before modelling their pitiful NPC abominations. Feels like the 1990s at times.
I remember playing a demo of the original and finding it pretty busted, but I haven't had any of the bugs you had in the latest version, while half your complaints stem from playing it on pussy normal difficulty. You can sleep walk your way through most fights on normal. I realized that near the start, and bumped it up to hard. I'm about two thirds through the game, and it's been a nice challenge since.Drinky Crow said:dude, i played --and completed -- the updated version on normal. (check bydoempire on steam.) no game should be THAT busted on normal. that's pure crap.
and hell, i played the original for about five hours back in january before its complete and total broke-assedness drove me mad enough to not only uninstall it, but mail it to a friend as a cruel joke!
wmat said:Any other games in the same genre that are that awesome? Nope. At least not in my collection.
But if it's about the level of dedication to the fiction, The Witcher comes fairly close! So check that out.
HK-47 said:Most people compare Bloodlines to Deus Ex so you can try that.
Late, but Risen feels like it *should* have worked on consoles, but the porting job kind of killed it.Ceebs said:What really separates them is that they are not designed with consoles in mind. Just read any interview about a PC game that is getting coverage in mainstream gaming press. I bet you would be hard pressed to find one that does not contain the question "Is this coming to consoles as well?"
That seemed more like a case of porting a game that used tech the consoles could just not handle.Nairume said:Late, but Risen feels like it *should* have worked on consoles, but the porting job kind of killed it.
This man speaks the truth. Golfclap.DennisK4 said:What does Divinity 2, Risen and Two Worlds II have in common?
They are all better RPGs than Oblivion and Fable 3 but get zero recognition from the media.
EviLore said:I need to rename Junior Member to something more appropriate. Troglodyte Member maybe.
Coincidentally I was interested in all 3, ended up buying DKS though.DennisK4 said:Three mid-budget games that
A) Never got the attention they deserved from the press
B) Are fantastic RPGs
are
1) Risen
2) Divinity 2
3) Two Worlds 2
Fredescu said:Only if you rank them.
But publishers spending money can't be the whole answer.jakershaker said:Just as soon as I rank all the FF's and make a topic about it
I can however express my surprise that people think that Risen isn't polished. It's one of the best and most cohesive worlds in recent memory, everything blended perfectly from gameplay to environments.
But perhaps I'm blessed, never saw any lack of polish in Dragon Age or New Vegas either. Some people must be looking for bugs or have zero tolerance for oddities.
And as people said earlier in the thread, games don't get coverage based on their quality. Games get coverage if their publishers spend money on them. Sometimes a game comes around that gets it for free due to some smart guerilla marketing but not very often.
DennisK4 said:Three mid-budget games that
A) Never got the attention they deserved from the press
B) Are fantastic RPGs
are
1) Risen
2) Divinity 2
3) Two Worlds 2
jakershaker said:Just as soon as I rank all the FF's and make a topic about it
I can however express my surprise that people think that Risen isn't polished. It's one of the best and most cohesive worlds in recent memory, everything blended perfectly from gameplay to environments.
But perhaps I'm blessed, never saw any lack of polish in Dragon Age or New Vegas either. Some people must be looking for bugs or have zero tolerance for oddities.
And as people said earlier in the thread, games don't get coverage based on their quality. Games get coverage if their publishers spend money on them. Sometimes a game comes around that gets it for free due to some smart guerilla marketing but not very often.
And yet somehow that doesn't seem to effect reviews or the attention they get.Binabik15 said:Games like Fallout3/NV, Oblivion and even DA have their fare share of wonky animations and ugly faces as well, sadly.
DennisK4 said:But publishers spending money can't be the whole answer.
There are lots of small japanese games, XBLA games and small-budget american games that can't possibly have a lot of marketing spend. Yet they still manage to get noticed on american sites and by magazines.
It seems that european games in general just get mostly ignored while there are a lot of fetishism for japanese games in the american press.
That certainly seems like a mistake they can't afford to make.wotter said:That's odd, we wanted to give more exposure to the people at Larian Studios, but they flat out refused because we are, according to them, too small as a gaming site (though we are the biggest in Belgium, same country as them).
Drinky Crow said:see, now you're just playing the classic gaf art direction canard. and as folks have pointed out, fallout nv has been taking some serious review score dings for its bugs.
DennisK4 said:But publishers spending money can't be the whole answer.
There are lots of small japanese games, XBLA games and small-budget american games that can't possibly have a lot of marketing spend. Yet they still manage to get noticed on american sites and by magazines.
It seems that european games in general just get mostly ignored while there are a lot of fetishism for japanese games in the american press.
I rented it from Gamefly and beat it with all quests completed, side and story...and I did not like it all told. It was okay until Tooshoo, then after that it went haywire.DaBuddaDa said:The funniest thing is, the one mid-budget CRPG this season that's gotten the most attention from major websites is the shittiest one of them all, Gothic 4! Gothic fucking 4!
wotter said:That's odd, we wanted to give more exposure to the people at Larian Studios, but they flat out refused because we are, according to them, too small as a gaming site (though we are the biggest in Belgium, same country as them).
The framerate cap has already been patched out.fizzelopeguss said:I think they "fixed" it in the expansion by simply capping the game at 30 fps.
DennisK4 said:It seems that european games in general just get mostly ignored while there are a lot of fetishism for japanese games in the american press.
hamchan said:I know Giant Bomb likes to do Quick Looks of relatively obscure games.
djtiesto said::lol :lol :lol
I don't know what American press you're talking about... but this is definitely not true. With the exception of the newly-revived (and possibly dead again, I haven't seen it on shelves in a while) Gamefan, most gaming mags don't give much of a focus on Japan at all. Apart from your stupid "Japan is dying!!!!111!!1!" "editorials" occasionally. Handhelds and handheld gaming get very little focus too. Ys 7 is one of the best and most polished games I've played all year, yet I saw hardly any coverage in the mainstream mags. OK, EGM had a small blurb on it where the reviewer complained it was too grindy. But that was it.
Though I agree, I don't really see much press at all on these Euro PC RPGs, if it's not for Drinky I would have never heard about any of them.
Guess what, it's probably the engineersLasthope106 said:From listening to the Bombcast, it is my impression that there are a few guys in that building that are hardcore pc gamers. Of all the "mainstream" sites I would have never expected as much coverage as Giantbomb did for games like SC2, Civ V, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - COP - hell, they even talked about Minecraft.
wotter said:That's odd, we wanted to give more exposure to the people at Larian Studios, but they flat out refused because we are, according to them, too small as a gaming site (though we are the biggest in Belgium, same country as them).
Ceebs said:If you schedule a meeting it's only common professional courtesy to listen to what the guys says. If you do not plan on covering it or plan on dumping it onto an intern save both parties some time and expense.
I know if I was flying halfway around the world to show my game off during scheduled meetings and the publication treats me like a waste of time I would be angry too.
MC Safety said:I understand that, fully. But stuff happens, people get sick, deadlines are missed, etc.
And say the guy shows up, and his game is crap? Or we just don't have space to cover the material? It happens, but because the guy shows up and because he made the effort, there's an expectation of coverage. And it's wholly unrealistic.
I also understand game companies are proud of their efforts, and want to present the material in the best light. But an extended meeting isn't always the best way to do it.
Drinky Crow said:yeeeeah. dragon age was turgid, shallow crap, but it was well-balanced and it didn't even have a tenth of these bugs and design flaws. that's what you get when you have proper qa and feedback-driven design. and don't make me defend dragon age, senor. it's not worth it for anyone.
Lasthope106 said:From listening to the Bombcast, it is my impression that there are a few guys in that building that are hardcore pc gamers. Of all the "mainstream" sites I would have never expected as much coverage as Giantbomb did for games like SC2, Civ V, S.T.A.L.K.E.R. - COP - hell, they even talked about Minecraft.
fizzelopeguss said:Divinity 2 at release was insanely janky, i couldn't be bothered finishing the game.
The engine was completely broken, running across the game world actually felt like jittery, low framerate paralax scrolling you'd get in old genesis games. A total headache inducing eyeball fuck.
Larians response was "we know it's there, our developers and QA guys simply got used to it over the years".
I think they "fixed" it in the expansion by simply capping the game at 30 fps.
With that said being treated like total shit by the gaming "press" has got to be soul destroying.