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DJ Hero demand "well below" expectations
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water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Thats a really poor comparison. Those three games are completely different genres. And each is on a different platform.. the adventure for Wii, the rpg for DS, and the 3D fighter for PS3/360.Kintaro said:
DJ Hero looks really neato, but if I were to get it I'd get the Renegade Edtion because the Turntable... table would be rather handy. DJ-ing is done at a awkward height and can't easily be done on a normal table. But at the same time the game is just so damned expensive :\
If it was $150 for the Renegade Edition I wouldn't be so leary...
It's a new franchise, and I'm sure a lot of peeps are in the same boat as me.
If it was $150 for the Renegade Edition I wouldn't be so leary...
It's a new franchise, and I'm sure a lot of peeps are in the same boat as me.
Dark Octave
Banned
Why? You usually have about three days before it's destroyed anyway.eznark said:
BenjaminBirdie
Banned
I was all set to get this, squirrelled away the $120. And then Criterion lost the Third Man license and I had to (had to!) buy the Blu Ray before it was gone forever. So now I think I'll buy a $120 blu ray player instead.
Thanks, Criterion!
(Or...whoever got the Third Man license from them? I guess?)
I'll buy this over Christmas times when it's probably at least 40% cheaper.
Thanks, Criterion!
(Or...whoever got the Third Man license from them? I guess?)
I'll buy this over Christmas times when it's probably at least 40% cheaper.
bigGIRLSblouse
Member
If they really knew how to think long term they would have priced this at around 70 bucks to get the new piece of plastic in as many homes as possible. Take a hit now for long term return. Right now, this fall.. is not the time to push a $120 new piece of hardware that is required to play a new franchise.
Number 2 said:
They may be in different genres, but it is all part of one "franchise" in the eyes of the license holder (FUNimation) and publisher. You're correct though. I wasn't comparing them one to one, just saying Namco/Bandai can release several games from one franchise in one quarter.
I really wonder if licensing fees have jumped for these music games though. The music industry has long since caught on and they probably want a bigger slice of the pie.
Because the standard controller is incredibly cheap and flimsy feeling. Not a chance I'd pay $120 bucks for that thing. At least they might have tricked a few people into thinking they were buying a decently made product had Best Buy put out the Renegade controller.Dark Octave said:
A Twisty Fluken
Member
Activision probably figured that planning long term was the wrong move. With Rock Band, and all the imitators jumping in on the same schedule, they likely figured that that market was going to be overrun anyway, so get while the getting's good and then GTFO. It's cynical, but I think they might have been right in their assumption. The market was already getting crowded and fatigue was looming BEFORE they turned GH release volume up to 11. I don't think there was a real long term play.
TheGreatDave
Banned
I like the GAF rule that it's OK to openly troll and wish failure on a game as long as it's not a factor in the CONSOLE WARZ. Try pulling this shit with Final Fantasy 13.
TheGreatDave said:
I don't really want to join the hate parade, and I don't usually care too much about what's 'healthy' for pubs (selfish consumer here), but I've thought for some time that all this 'add plastic to inflate profit margins' approach wasn't a healthy one and would ultimately lead to a lot of plastic shit being buried in the desert somewhere once pubs beat the market to death with it all.
I have never ever saw this kind of product as a sustainable/repeatable trick. There is only so much plastic people can take into their living rooms, and the audiences for each of these products has a lot of overlap between them I think (given that they're predominantly music-orientated right now).
TheGreatDave
Banned
Personally I think it's way too expensive to be massively popular any time soon, and the market in general is down. There's realistic ways of looking at it besides "good, they deserve failure, fuck those guys for making a game"
TheGreatDave
Banned
Archie said:
The issue should be "fuck the public for latching on to anything that comes with a piece of overpriced plastic" then. And it's not like this game is worse for having an add-on, this isn't Tony Hawk's. By all accounts it seems to be a fun, unique game, which is the last thing to bitch about existing.
TheGreatDave
Banned
RbBrdMan said:
Activision executives totally made this game. I hear Kotick did the Beastie Boys/Foo Fighters mix that everyone hates.
water_wendi
Water is not wet!
Well obviously Activision is doing something wrong because their expectations arent met. Cant blame customer for being burned out on another music game release with plastic peripheral that will be used for one or two titles that costs $100+ as just some baseless troll.TheGreatDave said:
Kintaro said:
Oh, how I wish this was true for me.
Best Buy is getting in a lot in of this game due to us partnering up with Activision for the demos. We have significantly more copies of this game than we've seen of any Guitar Hero title this year. I guess our store is lucky to be going through a remodel right now, if only for some extra space to be able to stock the game out on the floor.
BattleMonkey
Member
I don't know a single person who has any interest in this. Really did they expect it to sell well being such a niche market?
TheGreatDave
Banned
confused said:
It's a music game. It's about as far away from GH as a music game with a peripheral can be.
I think that price is the main factor in this. 120 bucks is a lot of money.
I mean, it's not really a "niche" game. You people still underestimate the number of people who like music not made by white dudes with guitars. If it was priced more reasonably, it would be as big as guitar hero or rock band this year. At 120 bucks, however, I don't think so.
I mean, it's not really a "niche" game. You people still underestimate the number of people who like music not made by white dudes with guitars. If it was priced more reasonably, it would be as big as guitar hero or rock band this year. At 120 bucks, however, I don't think so.
Stormwatch
Member
I was hanging out with some friends yesterday and they started talking about the game out of the blue. I've got the Renegade Edition pre-ordered and I am looking forward to the game because I think it is nice that the music genre is getting something different than the typical Guitar game. My friends felt the same way, but the consensus was that they weren't willing to spend $120 - $200 on a game like that. I'm sure it will do good in a month or 2 when the crazy Christmas sales start happening. I think people are ready for a change, but aren't willing to pay for it.
McBacon said:
I'm planning to pick it up when and if there's a price cut myself. But:
rocK` said:
I'm also a techno/EDM/electronica fan but I wasn't too impressed with the list of music tracks they released for DJ Hero. I would definitely have preordered if there were less Gwen Stefani, Foo Fighters, Beastie Boys and more Corsten, Above & Beyond, etc. I think Stefani and Co. are great musicians, but they're not who I think of when I think of DJ-ing.
BattleMonkey
Member
TheGreatDave said:
Tossing the "hero" label on it pretty much creates the image of it being part of the GH franchise in most consumer minds. Activision knows this, they slapped on the name for obvious reasons. They are different games but to the general public they will obviously compare them.
RobbieNick
Junior Member
I'll be sure to pick this up.....
.....in February when it's on clearance for less than half price.
.....in February when it's on clearance for less than half price.
Skiptastic
Member
Whatever, I'm still buying it.
TheGreatDave
Banned
I don't know why people expect the price to drop so much, especially so quickly. RB2 full band is still $100 at cheapest and that's been out for over a year now. You'll probably see DJ at $100 or so within a few months, but I'm not buying this whole "half price by 2010!" shit. I've already got it preordered for £65 though, so I've basically got half price
TheGreatDave said:I don't know why people expect the price to drop so much, especially so quickly. RB2 full band is still $100 at cheapest and that's been out for over a year now. You'll probably see DJ at $100 or so within a few months, but I'm not buying this whole "half price by 2010!" shit. I've already got it preordered for £65 though, so I've basically got half price
Well, there is significantly more value to the RB2 band bundle than there is with the regular DJ Hero. I don't think anyone minds anything with three instruments and a game being sold for just $100.
Lé Blade Runner
Member
gofreak said:
I kind of agree with you. I mean - I have two fighting-sticks for my PS3, a racing-wheel for the Xbox 360, two Guitar Hero -guitars, obviously both the PS3 and Xbox 360 consoles... And all of them are stuffed in my living-room. I won't even begin to describe everything I have stashed away in the storage-space, but the point is, that I have never had this much stuff under ( or near ) my television before.
And I do also think that it is a passing fad. Guitar Heros are pretty amusing titles - especially the full band versions - but it has already somewhat faded away from my circle of friends. We used to play a lot of Guitar Hero 4 with a full-band setup, but that was months and months ago.
As such, I hope ( and, well, believe ) that DJ Hero is a positively refreshing experience, while still maintaining a familiar music-game feel to it. I was never that big into guitars, but I loved to play drums in Guitar Hero 4, and will probably enjoy DJ'ing more than I ever enjoyed virtual guitar-strumming. But that's just me, and I am probably in the minority - in the niche market the game appeals to.
TheGreatDave said:I don't know why people expect the price to drop so much, especially so quickly. RB2 full band is still $100 at cheapest and that's been out for over a year now. You'll probably see DJ at $100 or so within a few months, but I'm not buying this whole "half price by 2010!" shit. I've already got it preordered for £65 though, so I've basically got half price
Didn't Bomb, though. Aerosmith kinda Bomba'd and could be bought 40% off after 2 months (At least in Holland)