That's very nice of Will Smith to make a public statement basically declaring that he's an egotistical asshole. Apparently Smith is so dumb he doesn't get that Django did actually kill the main bad guy, just not the flashy figurehead. Asking Quentin fucking Tarantino to alter the character's screen time is a fucking joke, go back to making Men In Black movies Smith
finally saw it and it's tied with death proof for tarantino's worst effort. threadbare plot with atrocious pacing, cartoon dialogue shoehorned in to characters who showed zero sign of conflict or development over the achingly drawn out run time (including the least developed damsel in distress since super mario bros), shootout scenes which played out like only the most inconsequential of call of duty set pieces.
waltz and jackson put in great performances, but damn were they roped in to a vapid, juvenile snorefest. you'll find more introspective social commentary written on toilet doors.
That's very nice of Will Smith to make a public statement basically declaring that he's an egotistical asshole. Apparently Smith is so dumb he doesn't get that Django did actually kill the main bad guy, just not the flashy figurehead. Asking Quentin fucking Tarantino to alter the character's screen time is a fucking joke, go back to making Men In Black movies Smith
Apologies for the bump but I see this thread has been getting life here and there.
Anyway, finally saw it. I had high hopes since I'm a big fan of westerns. I really enjoyed it but still came away feeling hat it was pretty forgettable. A couple thoughts:
- First up, the hood joke scene was cringe worthy. Completely unfunny, out-of-place, and really amateurish coming from Tarantino. It reminded me of a throwaway adult swim joke that went on far too long.
- What was up with Jackson's character?
Maybe I missed something but he sort of changed into someone else just for the sake of the story. Also, he was old and shaky early on then just kept getting younger?
In the end, i suppose i'd put it toward the bottom of Tatantino's filmography while Inglorious Basterds remains my favorite (with Kill Bill right behind it.)
Apologies for the bump but I see this thread has been getting life here and there.
Anyway, finally saw it. I had high hopes since I'm a big fan of westerns. I really enjoyed it but still came away feeling hat it was pretty forgettable. A couple thoughts:
- First up, the hood joke scene was cringe worthy. Completely unfunny, out-of-place, and really amateurish coming from Tarantino. It reminded me of a throwaway adult swim joke that went on far too long.
- What was up with Jackson's character?
Maybe I missed something but he sort of changed into someone else just for the sake of the story. Also, he was old and shaky early on then just kept getting younger?
In the end, i suppose i'd put it toward the bottom of Tatantino's filmography while Inglorious Basterds remains my favorite (with Kill Bill right behind it.)
SLJ's character was just putting up a front for most of the movie. You see when you get the first glimpse of him that he's the one paying the bills. He's the power behind the throne as it were, he manipulates everyone else (like with the punishment they came up with for Django was all his idea, he just tricked them into doing it). He wasn't really getting younger, he was just shedding the facade he had created for himself more often as the story progressed.
Maybe I missed something but he sort of changed into someone else just for the sake of the story. Also, he was old and shaky early on then just kept getting younger?
What the what. There are people who exist that manipulate and deceive those around them, or are simply better at doing so than others. In a situation of mean survival, these people are especially rewarded for their ability. They also make for interesting characters. I genuinely do not understand the confusion Jackson's character has provoked. Maybe it's just the nature of the medium. Hollywood and non-cartoon villains aren't exactly simpatico these days.
Finally saw the movie after missing it in theaters.
After all is said and done, even after a single watch, it feels pretty obvious that this is Tarantino's weakest work overall. Was kinda surprised at how straight forward it was.
That being said, it was still really good. Very uncomfortable to watch at many points, but the violence being dished back out felt truly satisfying
edit: well, still above Death Proof by quite a big margin.
i think this just might be tarantino's worst film. the more i think about it, the worse it becomes. i'd even rank death proof--which on a recent rewatch was better than i remembered even though it's still way too long--higher.
Watched it for the first time. As a huge western fan I have to say that this is Tarantino's best movie (incl. Soundtrack). It's also his most "adult" movie.
The hood joke scene was awesome. Did anyone notice the guy in the backround pointing (and laughing?) at the other guy who said that his wife spent all night long snipping holes in each hood?
He was co-lead with Schultz, who more-or-less stole every scene in which the two were featured together. Django was somewhat subservient to Schultz. I would've liked a movie in which the latter's role was greatly reduced, but then the movie wouldn't exist (or at least not do well with American audiences).
So Kevin Costner couldn't join the crew (damn, I'd love to see him in a Tarantino movie) but which character was he supposed to represent?
Big Daddy (a.k.a. Don Johnson)?
Apologize for the bump-I've just watched it for the first time and I think it's fucking fantastic. No one makes movies like Tarantino. I do have to wonder though-ultimately why didn't they just go in and offer to buy Hilde from the start? Why the subterfuge in the first place?
Ultimately though-what a fucking movie. They really don't make them like this anymore.
finally saw it and it's tied with death proof for tarantino's worst effort. threadbare plot with atrocious pacing, cartoon dialogue shoehorned in to characters who showed zero sign of conflict or development over the achingly drawn out run time (including the least developed damsel in distress since super mario bros), shootout scenes which played out like only the most inconsequential of call of duty set pieces.
waltz and jackson put in great performances, but damn were they roped in to a vapid, juvenile snorefest. you'll find more introspective social commentary written on toilet doors.
I'm ashamed I didn't see it earlier. I'm still behind on my films-Zero Dark Thirty and Life of Pi are up next. I did buy the Blu Ray outright, sight unseen however based on Tarantino's line of work.
Watching it a second time. I'm just wondering why they didn't negotiate fkr Hilda in the first place. Maybe that's part of the tragedy was their miscalculation. Candie clearly would have sold her to them.
When they were discussing their plan beforehand, Schulz mentioned how it would look suspicious if they just walked in and asked for Hilde, specifically. That would imply she has some kind of extra value, and thus might have to pay more.
If Hilde's purchase looks like an afterthought that is overshadowed by an even bigger purchase, then that doesn't arouse suspicions. Plus, it would have been cheaper, since they just pay for Hilde, and then leave, leaving town and abandoning their previous agreement.