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[carlosrox]

If you don't like any of these get your ears checked.

 

[John Mullins]

Techno..... not music?

Techno is PURE music.

 

[Kamina]

It depends

Often it is music, and sometimes it is a full fledged Tourette seizure.

 

[John Mullins]

Some of it may not to be your persuasion but that doesn't mean it's not music. A bit like how a lot of people need sugar in their coffee or whatever, most people need at least a little melody to lessen the blow of the raw experience to make it palatable

 

[EviLore]

Grimes is using a Juno-G sample-based digital workstation, not even a real analog instrument. She's using an SP-404 digital sampler to play back beats, not a 100-man backing orchestra. She's using an M9 digital effects pedal to add delay and reverb effects, not a real concert hall to echo the sound or beaming drugs into my brain to warp my aural perception. She's making weird noises, not singing properly. None of it is real! Not actually music confirmed!



How dare you not conform to my bizarrely anachronistic cave-dwelling musical expectations, Grimes.

 

[#Phonepunk#]

listen to this and tell me you don't FEEL SOMETHING

 

[ExpandKong]

With the hippin' and the hoppin' and the bippin' and the boppin'.

 

[AV]

A synthesizer is an instrument. And even if it wasn't, of course it's music, I can bang my hands on a box to make a rhythmic sound and talk over it.

Are you literally 70 years old, OP?

 

[mickaus]

I think that if the lyrics are actually coherent than it is music. If the artist is just mumbling or speaking too fast to sing to than it isn’t music.

 

[Labolas]

Wow, so you think that ALL hip hop artists don't use live instruments? This just shows your ignorance of the genre. The Roots use live instruments on a lot of their songs.


And if they don't use live instruments, so what? How does that take away from their talent?

 

[RokkanStoned]

Eh, yes, of course. Rap or techno are both music.

 

[R6Rider]

Yes, to both rap and techno. I listen to a lot of rap and hip-hop, but not much techno. I don't even like mumble rap, but still consider it music.

 

[Just_one]

honestly no. empty and talentless

to both rap , r&b and techno

 

[teezzy]

Lmao at the amount of posts in this thread that are just like "I cant stand that hippity hop, but that Eminem feller really sets my foot a-tappin!"

Dudes its 2020

 

[deafmedal]

I mean, how can you listen to this and say some shit like “no talent” or “not music”...



The only thing more than Killer Mike’s verse is Dylan

 

[HE1NZ]

Can't comprehend rap music. It all sounds the same to me.

 

[carlosrox]

empty and talentless

lol you have no idea what you're talking about.

Talentless my ass.

 

[belmarduk]

Yes. I still chuckle at some of the clever lyrics in WAP.

 

[BluRayHiDef]

honestly no. empty and talentless

to both rap , r&b and techno

I don't agree with you about rap, but I especially don't agree with you about R&B. How are trained and naturally talented singers talentless?

 

[eddie4]

Techo sounds like the same song, for like 15 hours. Just a bunch of copypasta. Do you know why, because its meant to be listened to in a club, when you're loaded as fuck, so 10 hours seems like 10 minutes.

 

[H4ze]

Of course it's music, wether you like it or not

 

[highrider]

Eminem is a great lyricist, but he’s never been a great rapper imo. He can’t ride a beat.

 

[namekuseijin]

rap is crap

 

[Irobot82]

I mean, how can you listen to this and say some shit like “no talent” or “not music”...



The only thing more than Killer Mike’s verse is Dylan

There is none better. RTJ!

 

[Hatemachine]

Rap has sucked since the 90s

 

[Bragr]

 

[matty3092]

I mean let's be honest 95% of rap is usually just boasting about pistols and money slanging dope and banging bitches lol

 

[matty3092]

Also this techno song is iconic

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Learn your hip hop history. The New York black community in the 70's without the means to own actual instruments made the record turntable into an instrument.

Why not the means?

 

[SF Kosmo]

Rap has sucked since the 90s

There's been shitty rap since the beginning but also good shit at any given time.

The current trends in hip hop, which really both strip down the instrumentations AND take the focus off lyrics and technical delivery, feels kind of lazy to me. But it's hard to deny guys like Kendrick and Jay Rock and even like Anderson Paak who have a shit load of talent, even the Swae Lee and Offset and 6ix9ine are not very talented.

 

[triplestation]

 

[Ikutachi]

I've made fun of it before so not really.

 

[nush]

Why not the means?

Inner city poverty.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I see this video pop up a lot and I don't get it. It sounds like off brand Rage with someone doing a bad impersonation of Zack at a karaoke bar.

 

[TaylorSwiftFan]

Not really. For me music means melody. But it’s not just rap that I don’t consider music - plenty of songs from other genres that I don’t consider as music.

 

[haxan7]

Never saw this thread before. I knew BluRayHiDef sucked but I didn’t know he sucked that much.

 

[RAÏSanÏa]

 

[JeremyEtcetera]

rap is crap

You know what's even crappier? Thread necromancy to make a meaningless statement.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Inner city poverty.

Turntables wernt cheap in the 70's though?

 

[El Pistolero]

It's SHIT. Black Americans created Blues, Soul and Jazz, only for their descendants to piss on their memory by shitting out Rap. It's neither music, nor poetry: Plain SHIT.

 

[nush]

Turntables wernt cheap in the 70's though?

Watch this.

 

[IDKFA]

Lol of course. What a stupid question.

You may not be a fan of this music, but you can't deny that it is actually music.

 

[Great Hair]

If KRS One and similar = YES
If anyone else from this list, wannabe gangsta = HOT GARBAGE

 

[INC]

Yes, until KSI started opening his mouth, now he's ruined it for everyone

 

[Dr.Morris79]

Watch this.

Well worth a watch, cheers for posting. Man it must of been rough there in the 70's!

 

[Happosai]

It's SHIT. Black Americans created Blues, Soul and Jazz, only for their descendants to piss on their memory by shitting out Rap. It's neither music, nor poetry: Plain SHIT.

Jazz, soul, and blues are still just as/if not more popular than rap. It was a different generation trying something new. Race isn't a variable either. Black people invented most genres if modern music too. So I wouldn't state just those three genres.

 

[ArtemisClydeFrog]

Dumb thread posted by an incel. Of course it's music.

 

[HoleinOne]

I don't think so. It's poetry (usually rhythmic) that can have music accompanying it (and often does), but it's not required. Yeah, I know I'm being pedantic. It's a music-adjacent art form and the two cross over a bunch.

 

[MastaKiiLA]

OP was banned. That checks out.

 

[Tschumi]

Yes.

Is all rap music?

Gtfo!

Is contemporary rap any good?

Seems to me that in trying to not be derivative the biggest rap stars are trying to be unintelligible