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Do you think the Switch Virtual Console delay is artificial?

I think that Nintendo is heavily reconsidering the VC model after the reaction to their classic systems, but not necessarily selecting the complete abandonment option. Hopefully simply making Switch retail collections of games more of a thing than it used to be (Was there more than Mario and Kirby? Wasn't Mario one cartridge equivalent anyway? Didn't Kirby completely skip Europe? Weren't both highly limited? Were there any on 3DS and Wii U?).
 
One thing that's worth mentioning that I didn't see in this thread is that the Switch uses an ARM based cpu while the Wii and Wii U both use PowerPC based cpus. So I'm sure that complicates trying to port over the Wii U vc to the Switch.

Edit: Nevermind. The mini nes and mini snes are both ARM based, so I guess they have already ported their emulators to ARM.
 
I think weÂ’ll see VC rollout next year along the subscription service which will unclude online playable NES games. Get ready for Drip Feed 4.0.
 
Before they have a delay, they have to announce something to delay :) ItÂ’s been my thinking all along that we wonÂ’t have a Virtual Console on the Switch.
 
Dreamwriter said:
Before they have a delay, they have to announce something to delay :) ItÂ’s been my thinking all along that we wonÂ’t have a Virtual Console on the Switch.
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Yup, they've obviously found a new audience with the Classic Consoles. That's no good for me though, cuz I hate those things. :/
 
I think they obviously want to give indie titles room to breathe

A gamecube vc or even snes etc could seriously cut into the sales of indie games
 
I would love vc on switch. I still have my Wii U for it but I would triple dip. Classic mini systems no go for me since I can never find one.
 
Haines said:
Umm, its coming with online isnt it
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They haven’t announced an official Virtual Console. What they announced was the paid online service will include “a compilation of classic titles with added online play, such as Super Mario Bros. 3, Balloon Fight and Dr. Mario.”

Also, recently they announced (and started to release) a series of arcade versions of NES titles, which doesnÂ’t bode well for a Virtual Console.
 
PadWarrior said:
I would love vc on switch. I still have my Wii U for it but I would triple dip. Classic mini systems no go for me since I can never find one.
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Not only that, but the selection of games is super limited. I mean, I don't want to buy an NES Classic that lets me play Castlevania 1 and 2, but not 3 (the best one), or an SNES Classic that lets me play DKC1, but not 2 and 3 (the best ones). On top of that, there's also the portability of Switch to consider. Damn, Switch VC would've been awesome... what a shame. :(
Haines said:
Umm, its coming with online isnt it
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Nope, they've never said Switch would get VC, just that you would get a handful of NES games for free with your online subscription, and they they would have "online features" of some kind. That's it. Everyone just assumed Nintendo would do VC again, but unfortunately, I really don't think that's the case at all. Maybe in a few years, after the fervor for the Classic Consoles does down, we'll see VC on Switch (or perhaps more likely, it's successor). Pretty doubtful we'll see that happen anytime soon, tho, not with the Classic Consoles selling like crazy, and Nintendo making more and more of 'em (Gameboy Classic and N64 Classic appear to be next).
 
VC was ran into the ground by an agonizing release schedule rife with missing games. (no Square Enix on 3DS in the west, really?)

Nintendo has to reinforce that Switch retro games are going to appear in HEALTHY quantities. If they pull stunts like dedicating a week to Urban Champion or Donkey Kong Jr Math, I'll be at a loss for words.
 
Dreamwriter said:
They haven’t announced an official Virtual Console. What they announced was the paid online service will include “a compilation of classic titles with added online play, such as Super Mario Bros. 3, Balloon Fight and Dr. Mario.”

Also, recently they announced (and started to release) a series of arcade versions of NES titles, which doesnÂ’t bode well for a Virtual Console.
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Oh yeah, I forgot about Arcade Archives. Yeah, doesn't make sense for Nintendo to re-release Arcade versions of NES games if there's a VC on the way.
 
I feel more under the impression that Nintendo simply didn't have any immediate plans as to how they were going to handle classic releases on the Switch. That said, there's been far too much demand for Virtual Console at this point for me to think they'll ignore it now, Classic boxes or no. But I don't think whatever happens is going to be under the Virtual Console banner anymore.

It could be a modification to the subscription service, it could be cart-based "Classic" collections, it could just be a branding relaunch. Or maybe they'll hand the task off to a third party, who knows. But I think whatever's going to come out of this is still going to be a while, and at least in some way it's not going to be the same as what we recognize. If it were soon or part of the same format, then Hamster wouldn't have been allowed to start work on their arcade games.
 
I still believe there'll be a VC for Switch. I'm guessing it will launch around the same time the paid online service does.

If they were to add online play to multiplayer VC games, that would be a game-changer for me. That would be enough to get me to re-buy games I already own, and I'm sure there are others who feel the same way..
 
IdreamofHIME said:
That's a good way to make less money.
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Sure, but Nintendo does wierd/dumb things that don't make sense, like their "voice chat" solution... Maybe VC just didn't seem profitable enough for them to put in the effort on Switch (they'd have to build new emulators for Switch cuz new architecture, no idea what sort of investment that would be), maybe they somehow view it as competition for their Classic Consoles (which they are now making into 2018) and want those to sell as much as possible... Idk, I just think that if it were happen, they'd have said something by now. The fact that they haven't (and in fact, have gone out of their way to avoid mentioning it) is what tells me it isn't happening.
 
I think the "delay" is not actually a delay at all but a full absence. Everything points that way: the retro collections (Neo Geo, arcade collection et al.), the classic consoles, and the fact that there's been absolutely no clear statement from Nintendo that one is coming. If they had any intention of doing it, they'd have said something by now.

EDIT: Plus, we're all well acquainted with how much work Nintendo always said it was to keep producing VC titles. It would be completely within their MO to have decided it's more trouble than it's worth.
 
AgeEighty said:
I think the "delay" is not actually a delay at all but a full absence. Everything points that way: the retro collections (Neo Geo, arcade collection et al.), the classic consoles, and the fact that there's been absolutely no clear statement from Nintendo that one is coming. If they had any intention of doing it, they'd have said something by now.
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Burning Justice said:
I still believe there'll be a VC for Switch. I'm guessing it will launch around the same time the paid online service does.

If they were to add online play to multiplayer VC games, that would be a game-changer for me. That would be enough to get me to re-buy games I already own, and I'm sure there are others who feel the same way..
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Why would they do that? VC would be a separate service. The monthly classic game thing is completely different from a VC service. It's implying that the paid service is required to use the VC. If they even have a VC service that is.
 
PSFan said:
Why would they do that? VC would be a separate service. The monthly classic game thing is completely different from a VC service. It's implying that the paid service is required to use the VC. If they even have a VC service that is.
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The only thing I could think of is maybe they have a "trophy/acheivement" system coming, and they want to implement that into VC games, sort of like PS2 Classics on PS4. Other tha n maybe that, I couldn't think of any reason why they'd delay VC for the Online Service. I'd say more likely it just doesn't exist.
 
kc44135 said:
The only thing I could think of is maybe they have a "trophy/acheivement" system coming, and they want to implement that into VC games, sort of like PS2 Classics on PS4. Other tha n maybe that, I couldn't think of any reason why they'd delay VC for the Online Service. I'd say more likely it just doesn't exist.
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Well, you don't have to be a paid PSN member to get the PS2 classics though. I'd say VC doesn't exist either. They never specifically said a VC was coming to Switch.

ramparter said:
Should save this thread for the day classic games come in Switch. Its happening.

And the classic consoles argument is stupid beyond infinity.
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Yes, classic games are coming, but that's not a VC service like we had with Wii and Wii U.
 
Should save this thread for the day classic games come in Switch. Its happening.

And the classic consoles argument is stupid beyond infinity.
 
PSFan said:
Well, you don't have to be a paid PSN member to get the PS2 classics though. I'd say VC doesn't exist either. They never specifically said a VC was coming to Switch.
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Yeah, I agree that it's not coming.
ramparter said:
Should save this thread for the day classic games come in Switch. Its happening.

And the classic consoles argument is stupid beyond infinity.
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And your argument for why Switch is getting VC is...? There's no evidence to suggest it's actually going to happen, and a lot of evidence suggesting it won't, unfortunately.
 
I think so, but I think it's for indies to shine. Nintendo might not get the big 3rd party games, but getting those great indies is a great replacement (for me at least, flipping death, where are you?!)
 
SpokkX said:
I think they obviously want to give indie titles room to breathe

A gamecube vc or even snes etc could seriously cut into the sales of indie games
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It is a combination of this and next years online service, no doubt about it. If there was a VC on the Switch right now, those classic SYSTEMS would still sell out just as fast as they do now.
 
kc44135 said:
And your argument for why Switch is getting VC is...? There's no evidence to suggest it's actually going to happen, and a lot of evidence suggesting it won't, unfortunately.
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Probably wont be called VC anymore, actually I hope this is the case. But I literally see no reason for them not to give you the option to download old classics.
 
No, I think it really is taking them this long to get something even remotely usable and acceptable in a modern console working. This is not Nintendo's forte.
 
kc44135 said:
And your argument for why Switch is getting VC is...? There's no evidence to suggest it's actually going to happen, and a lot of evidence suggesting it won't, unfortunately.
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There are classic games already on Switch, and there are announced NES games coming to Switch. There's no evidence suggesting classic games aren't coming to Switch beyond 'classic consoles', which is another thing entirely.
 
My bet is virtual console is not coming in the format we know and that might not be a bad thing. I think they will tie it to their online service with a Netflix-like model.
 
Burning Justice said:
I still believe there'll be a VC for Switch. I'm guessing it will launch around the same time the paid online service does.

If they were to add online play to multiplayer VC games, that would be a game-changer for me. That would be enough to get me to re-buy games I already own, and I'm sure there are others who feel the same way..
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Would the games only be rental?
 
I don't care how long they take as long as they can bring multiple consoles with a good library at launch, just like when it launched on the Wii, and we are actually able to carry over purchases from the Wii U and 3DS at this point (even if it's with a discount) and this time the purchases are forward compatible.

Adding online to old games is kind of cool and I'd rather they make it work well than rush it.
 
I remember the presentation for Wii U where GameCube was announced for virtual console. I waited forever. When I get my switch, I'm just going to do my best to stay away from whatever vc service they start. Usually disappoints
 
History has shown fans will double and treble dip, so why would they.

VC will launch when its best for profits like every other company on the planet.

If you job was to maximise profits, when would you release the games ?

Maybe when Switch needs a boost ?
 
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