Does not compute. w101 and dark souls would appeal to people who love mechanics before anything else. Don't see what age has to do with it, except that those are games that harken back to an age of player discovery and development of skill being looked at as a positive.
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Do your friends notice things like bad iq, framerate, screen tearing, etc?
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Does not compute. w101 and dark souls would appeal to people who love mechanics before anything else. Don't see what age has to do with it, except that those are games that harken back to an age of player discovery and development of skill being looked at as a positive.
Moral Panic
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I don't think people know the exact names but I think they know what it is if you show it to them. A lot of people call framerate drops "lag", doesn't mean that frame drops aren't important. Loads of people think COD is "smoother", doesn't mean they don't like 60FPS.
Aliens: Colonial Marines, but that's every PC game if you play without V-sync.
Glass Rebel
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PreyingShark
Member
Depends on how nerdy a particular friend is.
I think this agrees with many posters I've read:
My friends, on average, like video games but it's a diversion from their life. As such, they might recognize screen tearing, severe stutter (which, yes, they refer to as "lag), or occasionally muddy textures.
Overall, however, I think most people are hip to what's "big". We can see pages of issues with GTAV but the 1B dollars came primarily from people who "just don't give a fuck." At the end of the day, the people move en masse and reason has little to do with it. They can be moved to enjoy technically brilliant games or inferior games, to them this stuff just doesn't matter... generally.
Flash colorful graphics and "cool designs" and people pay attention. Tell them the game runs at 60FPS and all they hear is "flashy."
Personally, I do notice much of this and while it CAN diminish my enjoyment, what matters most is whether the game is fun mechanically and that isn't diminished by any technical issue.
I get super geeked out when I see a game running smooth but I might also notice it has less world objects or meshes, primarily square pathing, and other "cheats" so often the "geeked out" is countered. I love that newer consoles have the power to emulate older ones (like the PSP running CPS1/2 games, Ouya being able to play like...EVERY arcade game I played as a kid) and so I do enjoy when we see technical tricks.
My friends only care that they have someone to play or that it entertains them for a few weeks.
It's a matter of perspective and I wouldn't expect them to even CARE if I told them "There's a site where all this stuff is argued for 1000 pages of comments." They would blow me off and talk about something I care less about... like perhaps some Reality TV show or something. Most...not all. -Adam
My friends, on average, like video games but it's a diversion from their life. As such, they might recognize screen tearing, severe stutter (which, yes, they refer to as "lag), or occasionally muddy textures.
Overall, however, I think most people are hip to what's "big". We can see pages of issues with GTAV but the 1B dollars came primarily from people who "just don't give a fuck." At the end of the day, the people move en masse and reason has little to do with it. They can be moved to enjoy technically brilliant games or inferior games, to them this stuff just doesn't matter... generally.
Flash colorful graphics and "cool designs" and people pay attention. Tell them the game runs at 60FPS and all they hear is "flashy."
Personally, I do notice much of this and while it CAN diminish my enjoyment, what matters most is whether the game is fun mechanically and that isn't diminished by any technical issue.
I get super geeked out when I see a game running smooth but I might also notice it has less world objects or meshes, primarily square pathing, and other "cheats" so often the "geeked out" is countered. I love that newer consoles have the power to emulate older ones (like the PSP running CPS1/2 games, Ouya being able to play like...EVERY arcade game I played as a kid) and so I do enjoy when we see technical tricks.
My friends only care that they have someone to play or that it entertains them for a few weeks.
It's a matter of perspective and I wouldn't expect them to even CARE if I told them "There's a site where all this stuff is argued for 1000 pages of comments." They would blow me off and talk about something I care less about... like perhaps some Reality TV show or something. Most...not all. -Adam
IsntChrisL
Member
My old roommate's PS3 games used to constantly stutter. I was always the one to bring it up. And then I figured out the problem. The asshole would get his fingerprints all over the bottom of the discs, causing the problem. He eventually started to hate the stuttering and kept his damn hands off the bottom of the disc.
Bulbagarden
Member
Outside of things like serious framerate drops (though I wouldn't be able to tell the difference between 30 and 60fps), I would rarely if ever notice any of these issues. But then, my eyesight is ridiculously bad, so that's not exactly surprising.
andromeduck
Member
only the ones who interact with both consoles and are fairly into games will notice AND care
most of my friends when talking about games have brought up complaints on visual bugs/glitches, graphical/mechanical inconsistencies or things they wish were a bit better looking/more realistic
I think most people are aware of it subconsciously and it affects their overall experience and perception of the game but not consciously and not noticeably when things are marginal.
most of my friends when talking about games have brought up complaints on visual bugs/glitches, graphical/mechanical inconsistencies or things they wish were a bit better looking/more realistic
I think most people are aware of it subconsciously and it affects their overall experience and perception of the game but not consciously and not noticeably when things are marginal.
Randolph Freelander
Member
I have no idea if my friends notice.
I only know that I don't.
I only know that I don't.
dragonlife
Member
Only a few, I guess.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Most probably they do notice it but do not make it such a huge fuss like some in GAF
Wonko_C
Member
They do know about it and notice it, one of them even called out the "PS2-level grass textures" on GTA V, but procceeded to say: "Thank God all I care about is that the game is fun" and call me a freak who thinks I care about good graphics and not how fun the game is.
While I don't necessarily disagree with him, I love me some good image quality and stable framerates. People love to go watch movies on the "Big Screen" (TM), right? This is just the same.
While I don't necessarily disagree with him, I love me some good image quality and stable framerates. People love to go watch movies on the "Big Screen" (TM), right? This is just the same.
Funny you say that. Almost all regular CoD players appreciate 60fps, even if they can't properly articulate why. They will say things like it feeling "smoother", "faster" or "less laggy" than other console shooters.
Casuals know the difference. And Activision knows they know.
Atraveller
Banned
Most of my friends are PC gamers, so yeah, they do notice them.
IceDoesntHelp
Banned
only framerate.
All I ever notice is framerate and screen tearing.
All I ever notice is framerate and screen tearing.
HappehLemons
Member
No. I do. My friends don't even notice if a game is in high def/standard def.
Pretty much. 90% of my friends who play games could care less as long as a game is playable and fun.
Professor Beef
Banned
I only notice the framerate, and that's only if it's really bad. I still don't know what iq, AA, jaggies, or screen tearing are.
Viola of the Abyss
Member
My friends don't, I do but rarely care.
The only thing that really bothers me of the above is screen tearing, when it's very bad it gives me headaches.
The only thing that really bothers me of the above is screen tearing, when it's very bad it gives me headaches.
revolverjgw
Member
Nobody I game with ever notices or comments on this stuff, it's left to me to bitch about it.
Some notice it, but just don't care. Others don't notice it, or don't mention noticing it. If I remember right, I thought I had heard a long time ago that some people simply don't see things like screen tearing though? Why would it matter if other people do or do not notice these things though? People talk about it on GAF because we notice it, and we care about it and how it affects our enjoyment of games. We don't talk about it because it may make the game experience worse for other people. In other words these things may not make a difference to the masses, but it makes a difference to us, and that is why we talk about it so passionately, and will continue to do so.
I think some people make the mistake of assuming we talk about hardware advantages like it will be the deciding factor in the console generation, but that isn't what it tends to be about, at least not for me, and not from what I have observed in tech threads.
I think some people make the mistake of assuming we talk about hardware advantages like it will be the deciding factor in the console generation, but that isn't what it tends to be about, at least not for me, and not from what I have observed in tech threads.
Parakeetman
No one wants a throne you've been sitting on!
Nope, not them or me because we are too busy playing games than constantly complaining about em.
UltraGunner
Banned
Yup, we all do, with varying levels of frustration. Whenever these threads pop up I'm just amazed at how many people can't tell the difference between 30 and 60 fps or 720P and 1080P or what AA means. To me, not knowing the difference between all of that is like not knowing the difference between red and green. I guess that's because I've been gaming all my life that these things become much more noticeable to me.
Professor Beef
Banned
I have, too. Shit like this isn't as important to me.
ChosenPredator
Banned
i dont notice either until i read it on a forum then i fin myself looking for it and end up noticing it lol but other then that no none of them notice
PaulExcellent
Member
Nope!
I didn't either until I got here.
I didn't either until I got here.