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[BlueTsunami]

So what's worse, pizza or vodka

You'd probably get wasted at 1K calories of spirits where, with pizza, you could easily punch into the next dimension of calories. Plus pizza has lots of fat, so pizza.

 

[border]

According to that Get Drunk Not Fat app, here are some of the best things to drink (strictly in terms of calories:alcohol ratio, not in terms of taste):

Liquor
Everclear - 226 calories per shot
Cuervo Especial Gold - 96 calories per shot
Cuervo Especial Silver - 96 calories per shot
Crown Royal Special Reserve - 96 calories per shot
Gordon's Dry Gin - 96 calories per shot
Knob Creek Bourbon - 120 calories per shot
Grey Goose Vodka - 97 calories per shot

Almost all the normal liquors tend to be between 95-120 calories per shot.

Mixed Drinks
Vodka & Diet Coke - 258 calories per 12oz
Jack & Diet Coke - 195 calories per 12oz
Vodka & Sugar Free Red Bull - 268 calories per 12oz

Beer
Crispin Natural Hard Apple Cider - 140 calories per 12 oz
Michelob Ultra - 95 calories per 12oz
Budweiser Select - 99 calories per 12oz
Corona Light - 99 calories per 12oz
Greens Tripel Blonde Ale - 206 calories per 12oz

 

[aspiegamer]

A very general rule is that the 1) clearer something is, 2) less flavor it has and 3) less you consume of it = bad for your liver but not so much body. As a product of an American university, these things were vital to my education. "Freshman 15"? Often cheap keg beer consumption in people that had borderline eating disorders in high school to maintain their figures (and free pizza). Add a bonus 500-1000 calories of awful beer 2-3 nights a week? Yeah.

So vodka, basically. Do yourself a favor and buy top shelf. Christ. I cannot emphasize this enough. You're aiming more for, say, Grey Goose or Three Olives and not Svedka or Smirnoff. It is noticeably easier to consume. If it's under $25 you're not looking high enough.

 

[Ultima_5]

Straight edge for life

i didn't know people still used that term after high school

 

[Bodacious]

liquor by itself, not so much. but beer is pretty high in calories.

It's not the booze that does ya in, it's the gnosh.

 

[bundaberg]

Doesn't make me gain weight.

 

[Lunzio]

Calories without fat or carbs. People need to look into this.

Well, they're empty calories. All the gains without the nutritional content to back it up.

Obviously moderation is key.

 

[Shock]

You have to drink so much to actually gain weight it is unreal.

I mean were talking like 10 beers a day.

 

[BlueTsunami]

You have to drink so much to actually gain weight it is unreal.

I mean were talking like 10 beers a day.

If you're already eating enough to put you at maintenance, a couple of shots or beers will consistently put you in excess. You can definitely be skinny and drink as someone in this thread pointed out. Overconsumption of alcohol actually suppresses appetite due to how dense it is, calorically. Which is why you see skinny alcoholics.

 

[TheExecutive]

Yeah calories are calories just the same.

Countries that drink heavily like Austria, France, and Germany also have significantly lower obesity rates than the US so clearly alcohol isn't creating an obesity epidemic there by itself.

Your body will process the calories from alcohol first because they are free calories- lifestyle around drinking makes you fat but calories directly from alcohol has no direct correlation to weight gain.

 

[TheExecutive]

Well, they're empty calories. All the gains without the nutritional content to back it up.

Obviously moderation is key.

Pretty much.

 

[torontoml]

Been on vacation for 1.5 weeks so far with actual homemade healthy food, but beer consumption has gone up significantly. Gained almost 3 pounds lol. I'm pretty sure it's the beer.

 

[Shock]

If you're already eating enough to put you at maintenance, a couple of shots or beers will consistently put you in excess. You can definitely be skinny and drink as someone in this thread pointed out. Overconsumption of alcohol actually suppresses appetite due to how dense it is, calorically. Which is why you see skinny alcoholics.

You are correct. We don't eat generally... one meal a day at most.

 

[TheExecutive]

If you're already eating enough to put you at maintenance, a couple of shots or beers will consistently put you in excess. You can definitely be skinny and drink as someone in this thread pointed out. Overconsumption of alcohol actually suppresses appetite due to how dense it is, calorically. Which is why you see skinny alcoholics.

It really depends on when you are taking in alcohol calories- without a mode of retaining the calories from alcohol you are likely just to burn through them.

 

[glow]

I discovered awhile back that Natty Ice had the best alcohol content to calorie ratio so that became my default beer to drink at home. Now I get nauseous just thinking about drinking that garbage. I drink whatever the hell I want now. I'm a little overweight but I work out and I really don't care if I've got a little chub on me. I like getting drunk more than I care about my health. If you don't like the fact that booze has calories in it, just start doing drugs man

 

[TheExecutive]

I discovered awhile back that Natty Ice had the best alcohol content to calorie ratio so that became my default beer to drink at home. Now I get nauseous just thinking about drinking that garbage. I drink whatever the hell I want now. I'm a little overweight but I work out and I really don't care if I've got a little chub on me. I like getting drunk more than I care about my health. If you don't like the fact that booze has calories in it, just start doing drugs man

There is always this.

 

[Shock]

I discovered awhile back that Natty Ice had the best alcohol content to calorie ratio so that became my default beer to drink at home. Now I get nauseous just thinking about drinking that garbage. I drink whatever the hell I want now. I'm a little overweight but I work out and I really don't care if I've got a little chub on me. I like getting drunk more than I care about my health. If you don't like the fact that booze has calories in it, just start doing drugs man

I love nasty natty. 5.9% at $13.99/case for 30 packs.

 

[Mossybrew]

So vodka, basically. Do yourself a favor and buy top shelf. Christ. I cannot emphasize this enough. You're aiming more for, say, Grey Goose or Three Olives and not Svedka or Smirnoff. It is noticeably easier to consume. If it's under $25 you're not looking high enough.

If you have money to burn, sure.

Generic Store Brand will cost you a third the price and does the job just as well.

 

[Shock]

If you have money to burn, sure.

Generic Store Brand will cost you a third the price and does the job just as well.

Buy Svedka, I can promise you I am more qualified than anyone here.

 

[brianjones]

Buy Svedka, I can promise you I am more qualified than anyone here.

yeah svedka and pinnacle are my go to's

 

[BlueTsunami]

I would drink from a pint of Mr.Boston if I was low on cash. Straight battery acid.

I wish I could smoke up. Instant high, no calories. Probabaly some bad effects metabolically though. And binging food.

 

[GatorBait]

I don't think I've seen the fully "correct" answer in this thread yet, which surprises me. I'm going to give it a shot, but someone please correct me if I have any of the details wrong, because I'm just going to provide a broad by-memory recollection:

Alcohol calories are a little different from carbs/fat/protein because of how they are metabolizes. I believe it passes basically straight through the stomach/small intestine and into the blood system/liver to be metabolized. The alcohol is then nearly entirely converted to acetate and excreted from the body. You don't "store" alcohol calories as fat like you do fat/protein/carbs, they are basically fully and immediately metabolized. Because of this, fat/protein/carbs are not being metabolized while the body is getting rid of the alcohol calories, and thus, are more likely to be stored as fat. To compound this, your inhibitions are lower after drinking and people tend to go eat shitty food while drunk. These calories don't really get used for energy and are instead stored as fat since your body is working on metabolizing the alcohol first and foremost.

So, technically, alcohol alone won't make you fat. But it greatly facilitates fat storage and existing fat from being oxidized while the alcohol is being metabolized.

 

[Shock]

I don't think I've seen the fully "correct" answer in this thread yet, which surprises me. I'm going to give it a shot, but someone please correct me if I have any of the details wrong, because I'm just going to provide a broad by-memory recollection:

Alcohol calories are a little different from carbs/fat/protein because of how they are metabolizes. I believe it passes basically straight through the stomach/small intestine and into the blood system/liver to be metabolized. The alcohol is then nearly entirely converted to acetate and excreted from the body. You don't "store" alcohol calories as fat like you do fat/protein/carbs, they are basically fully and immediately metabolized. Because of this, fat/protein/carbs are not being metabolized while the body is getting rid of the alcohol calories, and thus, are more likely to be stored as fat. To compound this, your inhibitions are lower after drinking and people tend to go eat shitty food while drunk. These calories don't really get used for energy and are instead stored as fat since your body is working on metabolizing the alcohol first and foremost.

So, technically, alcohol alone won't make you fat. But it greatly facilitates fat storage and existing fat from being oxidized while the alcohol is being metabolized.

That is actually 100% accurate. Mod should tag this at top of thread.

 

[soleil]

I don't think I've seen the fully "correct" answer in this thread yet, which surprises me. I'm going to give it a shot, but someone please correct me if I have any of the details wrong, because I'm just going to provide a broad by-memory recollection:

Alcohol calories are a little different from carbs/fat/protein because of how they are metabolizes. I believe it passes basically straight through the stomach/small intestine and into the blood system/liver to be metabolized. The alcohol is then nearly entirely converted to acetate and excreted from the body. You don't "store" alcohol calories as fat like you do fat/protein/carbs, they are basically fully and immediately metabolized. Because of this, fat/protein/carbs are not being metabolized while the body is getting rid of the alcohol calories, and thus, are more likely to be stored as fat. To compound this, your inhibitions are lower after drinking and people tend to go eat shitty food while drunk. These calories don't really get used for energy and are instead stored as fat since your body is working on metabolizing the alcohol first and foremost.

So, technically, alcohol alone won't make you fat. But it greatly facilitates fat storage and existing fat from being oxidized while the alcohol is being metabolized.

This is great info. Thanks.

 

[TheExecutive]

I don't think I've seen the fully "correct" answer in this thread yet, which surprises me. I'm going to give it a shot, but someone please correct me if I have any of the details wrong, because I'm just going to provide a broad by-memory recollection:

Alcohol calories are a little different from carbs/fat/protein because of how they are metabolizes. I believe it passes basically straight through the stomach/small intestine and into the blood system/liver to be metabolized. The alcohol is then nearly entirely converted to acetate and excreted from the body. You don't "store" alcohol calories as fat like you do fat/protein/carbs, they are basically fully and immediately metabolized. Because of this, fat/protein/carbs are not being metabolized while the body is getting rid of the alcohol calories, and thus, are more likely to be stored as fat. To compound this, your inhibitions are lower after drinking and people tend to go eat shitty food while drunk. These calories don't really get used for energy and are instead stored as fat since your body is working on metabolizing the alcohol first and foremost.

So, technically, alcohol alone won't make you fat. But it greatly facilitates fat storage and existing fat from being oxidized while the alcohol is being metabolized.

YES! Alcohol calories have NOTHING to do with storing calories and thus has nothing to do with getting fat. However, your lifestyle choices while drinking and before drinking have everything to do with getting fat. Drinking almost pure alcohol calories cannot get you fat. You being lazy, craving fatty foods and slowing your metabolism will get you fat and those things simply happen while being hung over.

Edit: this is what I have been trying to say the entire time. Thanks for taking the time.

 

[Shadybiz]

Oof..the extra 35 pounds I had on me at age 28 says "yes." Cutting down on beer certainly helped me lose that.

 

[InfiniteBento]

Reminds of a dude I knew who drank a 6 pack, sometimes more, of angry orchard cider every day yet complained about having a gut.

Smh

 

[GatorBait]

YES! Alcohol calories have NOTHING to do with storing calories and thus has nothing to do with getting fat. However, your lifestyle choices while drinking and before drinking have everything to do with getting fat. Drinking almost pure alcohol calories cannot get you fat. You being lazy, craving fatty foods and slowing your metabolism will get you fat and those things simply happen while being hung over.

Edit: this is what I have been trying to say the entire time. Thanks for taking the time.

No problem. Your posts, and a couple others in this thread, were some of those ones I had in mind when I tried to qualify my post by saying that I hadn't seen a full, correct explanation yet. I could definitely tell what you were getting at with your explanations, though. I just wanted to try to paint the whole picture in a clear way since I didn't really see it done in this thread yet.

 

[mantidor]

I don't think I've seen the fully "correct" answer in this thread yet, which surprises me. I'm going to give it a shot, but someone please correct me if I have any of the details wrong, because I'm just going to provide a broad by-memory recollection:

Alcohol calories are a little different from carbs/fat/protein because of how they are metabolizes. I believe it passes basically straight through the stomach/small intestine and into the blood system/liver to be metabolized. The alcohol is then nearly entirely converted to acetate and excreted from the body. You don't "store" alcohol calories as fat like you do fat/protein/carbs, they are basically fully and immediately metabolized. Because of this, fat/protein/carbs are not being metabolized while the body is getting rid of the alcohol calories, and thus, are more likely to be stored as fat. To compound this, your inhibitions are lower after drinking and people tend to go eat shitty food while drunk. These calories don't really get used for energy and are instead stored as fat since your body is working on metabolizing the alcohol first and foremost.

So, technically, alcohol alone won't make you fat. But it greatly facilitates fat storage and existing fat from being oxidized while the alcohol is being metabolized.

Yes! thank you, that is the explanation I needed before when I said even googling had a million of different answers.

When you are drunk you certainly crave for the fattiest, fried-est, sweetest things out there, which is I guess why you never see a bar offering salad to their patrons, it's always deep fried stuff with dozens of sauces, that of course does not help with the weight gain at all.

 

[milanbaros]

I don't think the answer is as straight forward as everyone is saying. So far answers have been the equivalent of saying any food or drink with >0 calories will make you fat. I'm not sure the op is asking that.

I could be wrong, but I also remember reading research a while back saying that alcohol calories do not get metabolised in the same way and excluding the rest of the drink will NOT lead to weight gain.

 

[Glass Joe]

For me, carbs = fat. I went ultra low carb and lost 75 lbs. Easily and quickly... without exercise or calorie counting. Quit the drinkin' too.

Those low carb beers shouldn't get a free pass either. Alcohol metabolizes into sugar and is basically a "super carb" (1g carb = 4 cal, 1g alcohol = 7 cal).

Plus whatever known and unknown harm alcohol does to your metabolism/insides.

 

[Aiustis]

Lol Thats why I only eat cucumbers and celery on drinking days.

 

[lawnchair]

Alcohol contains lots of calories.

Calories lead to weight gain.

So yes.

MY MIND

 

[GatorBait]

Alcohol metabolizes into sugar and is basically a "super carb" (1g carb = 4 cal, 1g alcohol = 7 cal).

Basically this entire sentence is entirely false. It doesn't even make sense.

But yes, 1g of carbohydrate = 4 kcal, and 1g of alcohol = 7 kcal. So at least that part is correct.

 

[pgtl_10]

I went to search on the internet and the amount of contradicting information is staggering, this thread is not helping either.

As someone said, I've yet to see someone getting fat on vodka, but no one actually ingest only vodka and nothing else, so it's hard to assess.

That's why I made this thread.

 

[pgtl_10]

I can embarrassingly admit I am able to answer this question probably more than 95% of posters on GAF.

I have/am/probaly will be a high functioning alcoholic until I die.

That admission being said... here is what it comes down to. If you continue to eat the same diet you had and also drink a shit ton of alcohol of course you will gain weight.... alcohol is literally empty harmful calories.

Now, with that knowledge if you become a real alcoholic/daily drinker you generally will lose most of your appetite. A perfect example is fast food. Most people have had a value meal from somewhere and almost all people finish at least 90% of said meal.

When you actually enter alcoholism you will find your appetite depletes extremely significantly. I realized this when I would get my usual quarter pounder with cheese meal and become full about half way thru.

The whole point of this posts... if your a binge drinker on the weekends and then eat normal thru the week yes you will gain weight.

If you decide you would rather drink than eat... you will lose weight... and also lose quite a few years from your life.

Sad to hear I hope you get through overcoming alcoholism However I have seen on the web articles linking obesity and alcohol.

 

[entremet]

Lol Thats why I only eat cucumbers and celery on drinking days.

You must get buzzed quick if so.

 

[impact]

Straight edge for life

I'll draw the X on your hands if you draw the X on my hands xddddddxdxd

 

[Maximus.]

Yes it does and poor eating choices, while extremely drunk too.