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Does Mario Party need an online mode?
- Thread starter That Damn Kid
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PeakPointMatrix
Member
Mario Party not having online is only an example of Nintendo's staunch desire to make as little progress as possible as slowly as possible in their online offerings. Mario Party needed online fucking 10 years ago. It would infinitely ratchet up it's playability. It's harder and harder to gather friends in the same room that would want to play a game like MP as it is. Online mode would do wonders and be incredibly fun.
So of course that means it will never happen.
Yet you can play it as a single player versus all CPU why? Really the only reason they don't include it is a combination of sheer incompetence/stubbornness.
Why wouldn't this argument apply for like, every online game ever. Why include online in MK if people in places 6th and below are losing? Or shooters? Or fighting games?
Yes the time investment is higher for a board party game, but there's also a huge luck/team aspect that can easily turn the tides. Don't forget the appeal of wanting to fuck over others who may be in the lead.
So of course that means it will never happen.
Yet you can play it as a single player versus all CPU why? Really the only reason they don't include it is a combination of sheer incompetence/stubbornness.
Why wouldn't this argument apply for like, every online game ever. Why include online in MK if people in places 6th and below are losing? Or shooters? Or fighting games?
Yes the time investment is higher for a board party game, but there's also a huge luck/team aspect that can easily turn the tides. Don't forget the appeal of wanting to fuck over others who may be in the lead.
Dark Cloud
Member
What are you talking about? This ain't the early 2000's anymore. Tons of games have online. If what you said was true then all the online games like Call of Duty and Destiny wouldn't exist since people would drop out all the time.
Plus most of us want to play against family and friends not randoms.
I can kind of agree with randoms. I would say if someone quits then replace them with a computer. But yeah I don't care to play with randoms lol.
I said "outside of friends"
Randoms sounds like a dreadful experience
finalgamer
Member
No. Nintendo needs to wait and see how putting an aggravating board game like Monopoly on the Switch pans out.
Easy fix for disconnects - make the characters who drop controlled by the A.I. until you can be matched up with someone else. Give bonus coins (or whatever meta currency to buy new boards/chars/games/etc) to people who join games in progress and finish them.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Go play monopoly online and see how crazy that shit is lol.. People leaving the game and shit. It wouldnt hurt it but I only play monopoly with friends
SkyMasterson
Member
It's strange too, because Fortune Street on the Wii had online.
Has anyone here played Monopoly online? I would imagine, outside of playing with friends, you'd have people quitting/disconnencted frequently.
I wish the Mario Partys had online. My friends and I can't get together like we used to, so it would be nice to have it.
Has anyone here played Monopoly online? I would imagine, outside of playing with friends, you'd have people quitting/disconnencted frequently.
I wish the Mario Partys had online. My friends and I can't get together like we used to, so it would be nice to have it.
Captain Europe
Member
Every game needs an online mode, period.
This so much.
I can see online working with Friends, but random players... I don't know.
Mario Party is a rage-quit inducer as it is. Lol. But might also work with random people, at least they should give it a try or shot.
What I can agree is that no voice option with random people.
GuitarGuruu
Member
Yes and I really don't know why it hasn't happened at this point.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
How about Mario Party just stops?
I had no idea Nintendo was forcing you to purchase their games. You should make a thread.
Dark Cloud
Member
How about no?
FleetingFlowAir
Member
It's what people have been wanting, but I don't think they could bring the usual boards to online because disconnects and other issues are sure to happen since a game lasts for a while. It's not some Mario Kart race lasting 3 minutes. It would have to be a very lite and small board for issues to be minimized.
Only way I can see online as possible is if they basically had minigame she playable with anyone/friends.
Only way I can see online as possible is if they basically had minigame she playable with anyone/friends.
Yes. We shouldn't even have to ask this question in 2017, yet here we are. With them charging for online now, every game with any kind of multiplayer should have online multiplayer. I'm not optimistic they will make strides on this front though.
I'm not sure I care about MP anymore though, the series went to shit a while ago.
I'm not sure I care about MP anymore though, the series went to shit a while ago.
Rapscallion
Member
I could see a mini-game only mode working online; first one win four games takes the win.
However, playing the actual game online with strangers would be a nightmare. People drop out mid-match in Smash Brothers because they're losing, I couldn't imagine trying to sit through an entire Mario party game. Maybe the main mode with friends could work, but I think you'd still run into issues of people's connections dropping out. Maybe not. I know there's monopoly games and other similar board games that have online modes, so there's definitely cases in which they must somewhat work.
That said, I think Nintendo needs to restructure Mario party to make it a more appealing competitive game. Luck has always played a big party in the franchise, but recent titles have made luck and chance a much bigger part of them. There's next to strategy in the game anymore.
However, playing the actual game online with strangers would be a nightmare. People drop out mid-match in Smash Brothers because they're losing, I couldn't imagine trying to sit through an entire Mario party game. Maybe the main mode with friends could work, but I think you'd still run into issues of people's connections dropping out. Maybe not. I know there's monopoly games and other similar board games that have online modes, so there's definitely cases in which they must somewhat work.
That said, I think Nintendo needs to restructure Mario party to make it a more appealing competitive game. Luck has always played a big party in the franchise, but recent titles have made luck and chance a much bigger part of them. There's next to strategy in the game anymore.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I did. And according to Mario Party 10 and Star Rush sales I'm not the only one.
I think they should. Give the series to another developer and take the next few years to rethink the series. The car thing does not work and whatever the fuck they were doing for the 3DS games does not work. Sales have been declining for a while now anyway so it's not like a Mario Party 11 is really in that much demand so use that to take a break and work on something that can generate excitement like the N64 and Gamecube games.
NOLA_Gaffer
Banned
Nah, online would be boring and frankly just full of griefing. Mario Party is best when you've got a couch full of other players to riff off of and rage at. Besides the moment anyone starts losing in a match online they'd bail.
SkyMasterson
Member
What are you talking about? MP10 sold over 2 million copies. Considering how shit the WiiU sold, that's really good. Please don't make shit up.
BizzyBum
Member
I have a good feeling Mario Party Switch will have online.
There could be tons of options. Mini-games only (first to 3, 5, 10), different decathlons, traditional board game using 10 or 20 turns so if someone bails or loses connection it's a relatively short game and that player can just be replaced with an AI (Nintendo would still have to have a meaningful penalty system for frequent quitting), friends only lobby where you can customize any option w/ voice chat.
It would definitely make me buy Mario Party again.
There could be tons of options. Mini-games only (first to 3, 5, 10), different decathlons, traditional board game using 10 or 20 turns so if someone bails or loses connection it's a relatively short game and that player can just be replaced with an AI (Nintendo would still have to have a meaningful penalty system for frequent quitting), friends only lobby where you can customize any option w/ voice chat.
It would definitely make me buy Mario Party again.
Meh, Mario Party is very much local co-op in structure.
It's highly asynchronous, there's lots of downtime for each individual player, also a "party" lasts like 30 minutes at least? ... a player disconnecting (by rage quitting or losing connection) sounds like it'd be rather disastrous.
It's highly asynchronous, there's lots of downtime for each individual player, also a "party" lasts like 30 minutes at least? ... a player disconnecting (by rage quitting or losing connection) sounds like it'd be rather disastrous.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
For a flagship Wii U game coming out in the middle of a game drought and a Mario game with its own amiibo line... that's not good at all.
I can definitely see the online connections issue being a big reason they don't wanna do it. I don't have issues too often but if I play Splatoon/Smash/Kart for a few hours I get disconnected at least once or twice. It's not a big deal getting booted back to the lobby from a 3-minute Splatoon match, but if you're 19 turns/2 hours into a game of Mario Party.....rage. And even setting those issues aside it would probably be hard to get an entire party of randoms to all stay on for the duration (especially the people getting wrecked...).
That said they should definitely try to work on it. More options = better
That said they should definitely try to work on it. More options = better
Dark Cloud
Member
2 million is good....
Mario Party has consistently sold around 2 million since it started. It had some big jumps on Wii and DS. Other than that its sold around 2 million and it looks even better when it was on a system that couldn't even sell 14 million.
SkyMasterson
Member
You're really going to double down on this huh?
If anything, you could say Mario Party 9 had paltry sales instead It sold slightly more than 10 did and with a 100 million userbase.
As for having it's own amiibo line, I'm not sure how it's relevant. People that just want to collect amiibos, will buy them and not the game.
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
Did I say Mario Party 9 sold great? Also that's not how it works.
Dark Cloud
Member
Friends and family is the key here, not randoms. Even then they can get replaced by AI if you want to play with randoms. It's not like it would be different facing an AI or some random person online since you don't know them.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Yeah but it's opt in through the phone app, right?
I really didn't even think of playing with friends online and that's a very obvious use smh