Think it's more because
But that's for a different thread
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Does society prefer light-skinned people?
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He'd periodically encounter troubles that white people are free from. Being stopped very often by police. Being called the n-word by an old man. Having a more difficult time getting a job. Being treated rudely by people in stores or restaurants.
When you are a Black person (or, to a lesser degree, an Asian or Brown Hispanic person) your life is significantly more difficult. On all levels of American society, people of color encounter obstacles that others don't have to deal with. One of the reasons why there are so few minorities in positions of power is because the white majority teaches people, from a very young age, that they are somewhat inferior.
Also, you're way more likely to be shot or beaten by police, and will probably have a tougher time at airports, banks, and even expensive clothing stores.
Very few white people mean to be racist, but there's an internalized prejudice against people of color that permeates the entire nation.
Think it's more because
But that's for a different thread
So you think this was a prosthetic?
This is not the thread for this sis
On topic tho thats the darkest ive seen her that whole era. Her belly is so damn ashy tho unless it IS a prosthetic
eddfromtheriver
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Ditto, they always call me "guerito".
I disagree.
Are you white?
Mr. B Natural
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Seems to me most people around the world want to look in between light and dark.
It's as if we're conditioned to be interested in the mix of our genes. The safety of gray.
Then there's race that complicates things, in which, in America, if you're not really dark then you're white. The preferred mix of light and dark is considered on the "light" or "white" spectrum, even if it isn't true. Put it that way and America is over 80% white, or at least, not dark skinned. So, why would a man or woman deny themselves 4/5ths of the population? Not gonna happen. Your mind will evolve to want what you can have and what you can have is what's around you. This is why the Latino has become a more viably attractive thing to be as our history carries on.
And people have their personal preferences and it's almost always gonna be what they look like, or, again, what is around them (which is most likely more people that look like them). Or, what catches their attention because of how rare and completely different it is from the norm.
I also believe some mutations throughout history, like straight hair, happened specifically as competition to attract a mate. The modern feminine form is another example. There is no real logical survival reason to want a more fragile and gentle female mate other than that its shape and aesthetic design simply attracts a mate and there you go. Maybe the gentle form won men over as society changed from survival of the species to nurturing of the species and the concept of designed aesthetic feminism and masculinity? I don't know, but it happened regardless of why. Gentle form is more preferred. Gentle form mates despite its downsides. That's why it's here. If it wasn't preferred, it would have been extinct as it has no functional benefits. Blue eyes, blonde hair, same thing. Traits that gather attention survive even when they're a genetic improbability because, if you have red hair, you stand out, you're more likely to mate, you even the odds despite having a 25% chance of passing it on. If that wasn't the case, if the mutation wasn't preferred, the mutation would no longer be here.
I have shitty Adam Carolla hair, I can't do what guys with straight hair can do with their hair to gather attention. Does that make my hair inferior? Yeah, What else does it mean? What else is aesthetics about but increasing potential mating partners? And it changes from place to place. Maybe elsewhere in the world, my hair is desired, but all I know is that where I live, it's inferior as it decreases my chance of mating. Do I really care? No. That's why I don't do anything about it. Not worth it to me as I have much to offer despite my hair. Should you care? That's your call. In my opinion no...unless you're a potential mate and hair matters to you, in which case, here I am. Tada. Take it or leave it.
It's as if we're conditioned to be interested in the mix of our genes. The safety of gray.
Then there's race that complicates things, in which, in America, if you're not really dark then you're white. The preferred mix of light and dark is considered on the "light" or "white" spectrum, even if it isn't true. Put it that way and America is over 80% white, or at least, not dark skinned. So, why would a man or woman deny themselves 4/5ths of the population? Not gonna happen. Your mind will evolve to want what you can have and what you can have is what's around you. This is why the Latino has become a more viably attractive thing to be as our history carries on.
And people have their personal preferences and it's almost always gonna be what they look like, or, again, what is around them (which is most likely more people that look like them). Or, what catches their attention because of how rare and completely different it is from the norm.
I also believe some mutations throughout history, like straight hair, happened specifically as competition to attract a mate. The modern feminine form is another example. There is no real logical survival reason to want a more fragile and gentle female mate other than that its shape and aesthetic design simply attracts a mate and there you go. Maybe the gentle form won men over as society changed from survival of the species to nurturing of the species and the concept of designed aesthetic feminism and masculinity? I don't know, but it happened regardless of why. Gentle form is more preferred. Gentle form mates despite its downsides. That's why it's here. If it wasn't preferred, it would have been extinct as it has no functional benefits. Blue eyes, blonde hair, same thing. Traits that gather attention survive even when they're a genetic improbability because, if you have red hair, you stand out, you're more likely to mate, you even the odds despite having a 25% chance of passing it on. If that wasn't the case, if the mutation wasn't preferred, the mutation would no longer be here.
I have shitty Adam Carolla hair, I can't do what guys with straight hair can do with their hair to gather attention. Does that make my hair inferior? Yeah, What else does it mean? What else is aesthetics about but increasing potential mating partners? And it changes from place to place. Maybe elsewhere in the world, my hair is desired, but all I know is that where I live, it's inferior as it decreases my chance of mating. Do I really care? No. That's why I don't do anything about it. Not worth it to me as I have much to offer despite my hair. Should you care? That's your call. In my opinion no...unless you're a potential mate and hair matters to you, in which case, here I am. Tada. Take it or leave it.
triplestation
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Its fucked up but yes
Not necessarily. You can only say that if she has never had her hair chemically straightened and made a decision as an adult to straighten her hair. Unfortunately, a majority of black women hair is permed and straightened when they are children, primarily to make it more 'manageable' and to fit in with the standards of what society expects.
You'll even find that if some decide to go naturally how there is this revolt against them and a barrage of people telling them that they won't get a job, find a husband, etc., etc.
It is a stylistic choice, I agree with the word choice but not the underlying reasons.
As for the topic, yes. It's everywhere and its re-enforced by the media. My family is mixed race so it definitely wasn't good for my grandmother, mom, aunts, and uncles to grow up where they had to fight discrimination from whites and blacks.
I have farmers tan. I'm darker in my face and forearms while I am lighter everywhere else. Though, my family is still lighter than me.
DragonKnight
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Is this even a fucking question!? Yes!
Majmun
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Her face looks "ashy"as well. Could that also be a prosthetic?? Or is it just the SUN that's causing this effect? Hmmmmm
Wow, someone should've laughed her out of PacSun for this one.
So you think this was a prosthetic?
Yes, though that is irrelevant to your false broad blanket claims. The truth is you have no idea if his life would be easier or end up being harder or not change at all.
Lysander518
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Society can't prefer anything. It can't act, think, or feel. Personifying societies causes so many problems in the world today.
Really? I thought darker skin was supposed to be a sign of working class people who are outdoors all the time in India and other cultures?
Then you have no right or reason to deny what I said. Racism exists, and it's a serious problem in the United States.
Why are you so insistent that I'm wrong?
One time in middle school, I was going to see Constantine with two friends at the theater.It's an R rated movie, so my friend's mom was going to see it with us. I arrived to the theater last, but when I went to buy a ticket with my friend's mom, the ticket lady refused because she concluded that I was not with my parent. This is in spite of her having just sold a ticket to my (white) friend whose parents were not their either. I even called my dad and tried to speak with the ticket lady, but she refused to allow me to enter, even when I pointed out that my (white) friend's mom was not there either. I ended up going home, while my friends got to see the movie. In this case, I was not allowed in because I'm black.
That's just an anecdote which ultimately didn't harm me, but we could also point out how whites consume drugs at about the same or higher rate as blacks, yet blacks make up a significant portion of the prison population.
When people point out racism, we aren't saying that all the white people are perpetuating racism. We are talking about institutionalized and socialized norms which continue to affect minorities on a daily basis.
Devolution
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Yes. Just looking at language and rhetoric in some cultures tells you all you need to know even if you somehow managed to ignore racism. Thanks to socio-economics in countries and or later imperialism, the lighter the better.
Society is pretty much a personified mass of people.
Zoramon089
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Well there's multitudes of studies, articles and evidence that being a minority is harder so...you can disagree all you want. I initially thought you just disagreed with the last statement, which is somewhat of a generalization, but the rest of his post is completely true
As a whole I don't think so. But if you talk about gender there does seem to be a preference for females who are on average lighter than the general population group. Even amongst groups who have had little exposure to outside groups (eg. the West). I read that it has to do with the fact that estrogen levels cause lighter pigmentation in females. Which is good for child bearing (vitamin D etc...). I don't think there is a magic skin tone either I think ts just relative. A lily white European woman would be at a huge reproductive disadvantage in the Sahara 10,000 years ago. And a coal black African woman would suffer reproductive disadvantages in ice age Europe as well. *shrugs* Who knows really?
Being white or black or anything doesn't change the facts. My skin color is irrelevant to your statement (What I quoted wasn't stating racism exist and is a serious problem).
What I quoted is below. The facts are you have no idea if his life would be harder, easier or just the same if his he dark skin.
Then you go on to spout off that he'd encounter all these troubles that white people are free from, stopped very often by police, being call an N word by an old man and the list of nonsense goes on and on.
You are quite the psychic in your mind. Because we all know that every darker skinned person has been called an N word by an old man, has been pulled over more times than any person of lighter color, can't have a more successful life than a person of lighter skin. No, none of that can happen!
This is something that only a white person who is completely oblivious to the colored experience would say.
You can't be serious. So women also have no idea if their lives would be easier if they had been born male in a male-dominated society?
These comparative phrases are pretty indicative of the topic at hand. One has positive conotations, and the other seems dirty in comparison.
Mustaphadamus
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Albino's are not liked ALL over Africa. Look up the story of "salif keita" from mali.
gutter_trash
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in Latin America, it's European descents who get TV roles, are in commercial and anchor the news.
When I was in Mexico, their TV was white; Euro descents. Commercials, soap operas, news, you name it.
Same goes for Brazil. Brazil has a huge black and mulatto population. Turn on the news, it's white people telling you the news and their soaps are just white. LOL
Yeah, he's way off. There are ads all the time in India for skin-lightening ("fairness") creams.
Those are all things that Black people may very regularly have to deal with. I don't understand why you're being argumentative.
Devolution
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Institutionalized racism as well as racism from individuals in American society at least, is a thing. It's pretty sad you're going out of your way to deny it. I've seen it first hand. My friends treated as inferior in front of my face while I'm not. Sad that some people want to live in a state of perpetual denial about how other groups are treated.
Lily white is a positive and coal black is a negative? Not where I come from. They are general used describe the opposite extremes of the skin complexion spectrum. I am black by the way.
I always took "lily" to mean "weak" or something. Never seemed like a positive thing.
freenudemacusers
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yesThere are spice puddings?
Didn't even know this was a legit question. Of course the world prefers light skin. Dark skinned people are the criminals and service people. Light skinned people are the movie stars and CEOs. Obviously there are exceptions but that's the general rule
I was actually amazed traveling through Europe and Japan and seeing that the same thing is true even when there are no black people. Somehow the darkest of skinned people managed to fulfill the same roles. Indians are as dark as they come, but who do you see in Bollywood?
The hilariously ironic thing is when people with fair skin turn themselves orange trying to look darker. Grass is always greener
I was actually amazed traveling through Europe and Japan and seeing that the same thing is true even when there are no black people. Somehow the darkest of skinned people managed to fulfill the same roles. Indians are as dark as they come, but who do you see in Bollywood?
The hilariously ironic thing is when people with fair skin turn themselves orange trying to look darker. Grass is always greener
SkepticalPanda
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TIL That if I want people to like me for who I am I'm going to have to move somewhere in Asia. Surprisingly, I'm okay with that.
Auto correct. Still not heard of it.
Do you think it was intentional in the Raid that the main baddie and good guys were pale whilst the low level mooks were darker.
Chuckie
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Yes. The biggest stars in Indonesian films and soaps are often (not always ofcourse) lighter tanned people.
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