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Does the friend zone every work the other way around?

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The funny thing is that I dont get why people sometimes force it till one of them has to literally say "no".
Most of the times its so easy to throw a hint and see if there is any interest there, that you dont really need to get "officially" turned down and be left with an awkward and now forced "friendship".
 
Of course this happens. I've had to friendzone lots of chicks for various reasons. I've been friendzoned about the same amount of times. And yes, you cam escape the friendzone though in my case it's never ended with anything special.
 
The funny thing is that I dont get why people sometimes force it till one of them has to literally say "no".
Most of the times its so easy to throw a hint and see if there is any interest there, that you dont really need to get "officially" turned down and be left with an awkward and now forced "friendship".

Its because sometimes we are not aware about how people perceive us and viceversa, so an in love man/woman can take a simple and friendly hug as something entirely different, I've been there, and when that girl tried to kiss me I just said that I didn't want to kiss her because that's not how I felt for her
 
Honestly, isn't it more of a compliment for someone to say, "gee, you know, relationships don't always work out but I actually really want to count you as a friend in the long-term"?
 
Wait what the hell

Why are people referring to turning down romantic advances as "friend zoning"?

"Friend Zone" is a term made up by losers who feel women are obligated to return their affection for being friends with them.

You can't really put someone in the friend zone. It's a place made up by the individual who sees them self as being within it
 
Honestly, isn't it more of a compliment for someone to say, "gee, you know, relationships don't always work out but I actually really want to count you as a friend in the long-term"?

Not a very good compliment if you prefer a relationship.

What they hear is probably something like: "sorry, I don't think that you're the right person, and honestly I'd prefer to remain in the situation that requires less commitment."

..Probably hyperbole, but I imagine that's how its taken.
 
Wait what the hell

Are people referring to turning down romantic advances as "friend zoning"?

I don't really like the term, but wasn't originated from the phrase "I like you but as a friend" which is the most classic phrase to reject someone?
 
Is it even possible to escape the friendzone?

You should never view the 'friend zone' as a bad thing.

If you are a decent guy, a girl WILL recommend you to other friends/co-workers. Getting the pre-seal of approval from another girl goes a long way in meeting a new one.

So, it's stupid as hell to get mad at a girl who wants to just be a friend, then you cut her out of your life in spite. But, everyone does it because they can't handle the rejection.
 
I don't really like the term, but wasn't originated from the phrase "I like you but as a friend" which is the most classic phrase to reject someone?

Yeah

made up by guys who befriend women in hopes of having sex with them because of how nice they are to them.

The only people that can answer this question are girls who have befriended guys in hopes of fucking them and failed. Not guys who have turned down women they weren't attracted to.
 
Is it even possible to escape the friendzone?

Yes; I've seen it.

But for all intents and purposes pretend it's not. Sometimes you'll have feelings and they won't feel the same way. Ultimately, you should just live with it.

Yeah

made up by guys who befriend women in hopes of having sex with them because of how nice they are to them.

The only people that can answer this question are girls who have befriended guys in hopes of fucking them and failed. Not guys who have turned down women they weren't attracted to.

No, those are nice guys. Completely different.

Also, most people here are talking about relationships, not sex.
 
What an odd question. Of course it happens, all the time. Any time one person is interested when the other person isn't...

Or do you specifically mean the phenomenon where someone tries to pursue someone by pretending they just want to be friends, but then by the time they try to make a move the other person just thinks of them as a friend? Yeah, I'm sure that happens too. There are plenty of shy, unconfident women out there, just as there are shy, unconfident men.
 
The relationship I (don't) have with the chemistry major who lives below me says yes. She's so interested but just so boring.

It's quite weird.
 
Or do you specifically mean the phenomenon where someone tries to pursue someone by pretending they just want to be friends, but then by the time they try to make a move the other person just thinks of them as a friend? Yeah, I'm sure that happens too. There are plenty of shy, unconfident women out there, just as there are shy, unconfident men.

is there any particular difference when one starts using the term 'friendzone' to describe the situation
 
is there any particular difference when one starts using the term 'friendzone' to describe the situation

Yes. The term "friendzone" is only used by butthurt men who haven't made their move because they're petrified of rejection. Women just call it "FRIENDSHIP".
 
is there any particular difference when one starts using the term 'friendzone' to describe the situation

I'm not sure, that's why I was asking. Usually when I hear that term, I think of the phrase "let's just be friends." It seems like a lot of people use it to mean the latter, though. Although they generally won't admit that they were being dishonest with their intentions.
 
im on a 10 month relationship cause i said to her well im not really boyfriend material and you are not up to par, lets stay friends. she eventually stuck by me and things worked out.

saying no to a woman is the stuff of wonders.
 
What an odd question. Of course it happens, all the time. Any time one person is interested when the other person isn't...

Or do you specifically mean the phenomenon where someone tries to pursue someone by pretending they just want to be friends, but then by the time they try to make a move the other person just thinks of them as a friend? Yeah, I'm sure that happens too. There are plenty of shy, unconfident women out there, just as there are shy, unconfident men.

Never heard friendzone describe that.

It's close, but without the devious part, lol. This one person I know simply waits too long - no intention of pretending to be friends, but before you know it, it happens. Alternatively feelings begin to develop for a friend...

Have you seen "He's Just Not That Into You"? There's one girl that this happens to, I forget the name/actress.
 
It does suck but I don't really blame them. It's either they're your friend or not, and you should respect whatever they choose to be.

dat deflated ego. I think usually it's for the best, unless someone does that immediate save "I really like you, think we could be great friends, but I don't want to date you. I just want to hang out." Anyone would be a fool to say no to this...but sometimes it's just "oh..well...I don't like you that way. Where did you get any indication that I did?"

I want to ask 'well can I have my token back, to put in the friendship section??'
"No I'm sorry. Too awkward. We have to burn your token."


ways to escape my friendzone:
every sexy makeover movie ever.
or display a form of genius.

in fact, wasn't that the origin of the sexy makeover movie?
 
The term "friend zone" was invented by infantile virgins who feel they should be allowed to have sex with a girl for having to put up with hanging out with them for prolonged periods of time.

Girls/Women are not things that exist just to replace wanking though, contrary to popular virgin belief. If anything , were friend zoning a term that wasn't loaded with bullshit, I'd say it's where any relationship SHOULD start. It shouldn't matter if romantic notions occur , both parties should just act like adults and if the only reason for either party to put up with one another is the eventual hope of sex then perhaps it just shouldn't be ?

Of all things on the internet one could waste time watching, there is a Jenna Marbles video where she talks about compatibility. Just because a girl is a 10 in the looks department doesn't mean she will be a good friend, likewise for guys obviously. If both individuals are only in it for the sex then well, all the power to them. That's not usually the case though.

So yeah, to come around to the OP's question. OF COURSE a girl can face rejection, for pretty much the same reasons as a guy. Sometimes human nature involves people of either gender being shallow in their desires. Other times good friends consider themselves like siblings , nothing "more". Guys just, oddly, seem to post more publicly about it so you hear about it happening to nerdy "nice guys" all the time (that's another bullshit term). As usual the vocal minority taints an imaginary statistic - the guys you here ranting the most about getting friend-zoned tended to only hang out with the woman who rejected them in the hopes of intercourse. I don't think any healthy relationship can result from that.
 
So I can't be friends with girls, unless there are benefits involved?

I don't think I'm still friends who proposed to me back then, but yeah, I've told a couple of girls "I don't really see you that way"... I find it very hard to believe no one here has at least one female friend that they can't think of in a sexual way.
I have a couple of friends who are like bros to me, it'd be weird to pursue anything else with them.

Maybe I'm broken...
 
I'm not sure, that's why I was asking. Usually when I hear that term, I think of the phrase "let's just be friends." It seems like a lot of people use it to mean the latter, though. Although they generally won't admit that they were being dishonest with their intentions.

it's term used to compensate for a denial/removal of power. intent doesn't change the effect. being placed in the friendzone means they're the problem, not you. you're "too good." breaking out of the friendzone means you've conquered them.

there is no usage where the denier is not attempting to achieve dominance

the thread is gender patriarchy and... jesus, read some of these posts
So I can't be friends with girls, unless there are benefits involved?
one of my best friends is a girl!
saying no to a woman is the stuff of wonders.
haha, sure is :fistbump:
The term "friend zone" was invented by infantile virgins who feel they should be allowed to have sex with a girl for having to put up with hanging out with them for prolonged periods of time.
you tell 'em sex haver
Really? I have seen and heard plenty of people use it in a self deprecating manner. Mocking their own shyness and failure to ask someone out.
*stares*
Yup, my friend did that to a girl hotter than his gf.

It was insane watching but she accepted it
what a wicked turn down of the pussy. insane indeed
Maybe you would have started to get bitter if that happened to you many times in a row. You'll never know.
no, never
Way too often. Hurts the ego sometimes.
You're fun to chill with, you're intelligent, and you're funny, but guess what sweetheart, you got those in place of looks, and I can't fuck any of those things.
i can see how that'd kill your ego. "why do ugly chicks keep falling for me" *girl beside you gets up and leaves*
 
it's term used to compensate for a denial/removal of power. intent doesn't change the effect. being placed in the friendzone means they're the problem, not you. you're "too good." breaking out of the friendzone means you've conquered them.

there is no usage where the denier is not attempting to achieve dominance

Really? I have seen and heard plenty of people use it in a self deprecating manner. Mocking their own shyness and failure to ask someone out.
 
So I can't be friends with girls, unless there are benefits involved?

I don't think I'm still friends who proposed to me back then, but yeah, I've told a couple of girls "I don't really see you that way"... I find it very hard to believe no one here has at least one female friend that they can't think of in a sexual way.
I have a couple of friends who are like bros to me, it'd be weird to pursue anything else with them.

Maybe I'm broken...

I have some friends who think that way. It's kind of irritating.
 
it's term used to compensate for a denial/removal of power. intent doesn't change the effect. being placed in the friendzone means they're the problem, not you. you're "too good." breaking out of the friendzone means you've conquered them.

Uh, I thought use of this phrase was a tacit acknowledgment that you're considered inadequate in one or more ways.
 
Yes it does. I've friendzoned quite a few girls in the past, though I generally don't 'use' them as some girls do. I don't know to what extend of the 'friendzone' and its connotations you're referring to.
 
I've friend zoned a few girls one of them with the fury of a thousand suns. I still feel terrible about it. Luckily she was smart enough to move on

Is it even possible to escape the friendzone?
my wife friend zoned me. And not only did I escape we have sex now.
 
my wife friend zoned me. And not only did I escape we have sex now.

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it's term used to compensate for a denial/removal of power. intent doesn't change the effect. being placed in the friendzone means they're the problem, not you. you're "too good." breaking out of the friendzone means you've conquered them.

there is no usage where the denier is not attempting to achieve dominance

This is why I wanted a better term for what happened in my first relationship because I wasn't left feeling bitter and we're still friends.
 
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