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worldrevolution said:
I've lived on European farms in the dead of winter and..we still kept the dogs outside. I think a lot of people in this thread are just from urban areas that think of a dog much like a cat, not the beast of the wild they really are.
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dogs being the key word here, dogs are social animals, they need to be around other dogs/people a lot of the time, especially when they are puppies. If it had other dogs in the garden with it I don't think it would be as big a problem. I'm not a vet or anything, just an owner, so maybe I'm completely wrong here mind you.
 
elseanio said:
Does the OP live on a farm? He has a great opportunity here to have a family pet that WILL also act as a guard. He doesn't NEED to leave it outside. There are more benefits of having it indoors, such as his kids having a better bond with the dog, more loyalty towards the family etc, than leaving it outdoors solely as a "junkyard" dog.. if he wants the latter, he shouldn't let his kids interact with the dog at all
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He's said he has a large backyard area that implies the dog is not in some little box. I assume his family spends a lot of time in the yard, and he's stated the dog will be allowed inside, just not all the time. They're going to bond just fine.

Liquid Helium said:
dogs being the key word here, dogs are social animals, they need to be around other dogs/people a lot of the time, especially when they are puppies. If it had other dogs in the garden with it I don't think it would be as big a problem. I'm not a vet or anything, just an owner, so maybe I'm completely wrong here mind you.
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Nothing wrong with multiple pets. If they have the room for another one, I'm sure it'd be great for all of them.
 
My dog is so traumatized by the thought of being left outside, she got crazy hair :(

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The problem also is that many dogs kept outside tend to be ignored for long stretches of the day. It's also best to have at least 2 outside dogs so they can keep each other company.
 
Small pups like that still need closeness with other animals, otherwise they'll grow up to be anxious. I don't think that makes for a good pet, guardian, or companion. And it's not humane to a puppy.

Let the pup inside until he's older at least. Then transition him to an outside house.
 
worldrevolution said:
I've lived on European farms in the dead of winter and..we still kept the dogs outside. I think a lot of people in this thread are just from urban areas that think of a dog much like a cat, not the beast of the wild they really are.
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Don´t forget that people will usually be outside around the farm quite a lot. I doubt much people spend more then an hour a day in their backyards, especially in the winter.
 
soepje said:
Don´t forget that people will usually be outside around the farm quite a lot. I doubt much people spend more then an hour a day in their backyards, especially in the winter.
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I figured this is what was irking most people here, assuming their winter conditions on the op and picturing a poor puppy sitting outside alone. No idea what the conditions are for the op, but I'm assuming he's not dumb enough to be doing just that.
 
I live in southern mexico, basically no winter here as you can see in the pics. We do spend a lot of time on the yard everyday playing soccer, on a trampoline, the pool. And with a dog we'll be spending even more time outside now.
 
alterno69 said:
I libe in southern mexico, basically no winter here as you can see in the pics. We do spend a lot of time on the yard everyday playing soccer, on a trampoline, the pool. And with a dog we'll be spending even more time oitside now.
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Exactly what I figured. Dog-gaf meltdown averted. Count your blessings, op.
 
worldrevolution said:
I think a lot of people in this thread are just from urban areas that think of a dog much like a cat, not the beast of the wild they really are.
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Dogs are obviously equipped to survive harsh weather, but they are far less "beasts of the wild" than cats.

We bred the predatory instinct out of dogs so long ago that the only thing they can do on their own is eat garbage and look pathetic in hopes of getting food scraps. I have seen stray dogs in 3rd world countries that are beyond emaciated and would not think of snatching up one of the chickens running around.
 
pj said:
Dogs are obviously equipped to survive harsh weather, but they are far less "beasts of the wild" than cats.

We bred the predatory instinct out of dogs so long ago that the only thing they can do on their own is eat garbage and look pathetic in hopes of getting food scraps. I have seen stray dogs in 3rd world countries that are beyond emaciated and would not think of snatching up one of the chickens running around.
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This. My cats growing up were indoor/outdoor cats. They were perfectly capable of surviving outdoors and often preferred to be outside and alone. One of them would go on a vacation once every three or four years and vanish for about five days, then just randomly show up again looking fine and healthy. They could hunt for food (they brought us many examples over the year to demonstrate their prowess), or climb trees if in any danger and we never worried about them being left outside.

My dog (a herding dog) wouldn't have lasted 2 days on her own.
 
Ok, i'm off to the vet now, i did check on his gums and they look kinda pale to me, i was already planning to take him today anyways but hopefully his health is ok.
 
I'm back, since the vet is like half a mile away from my house i walked him there, actually we ran, when i walk with him he keeps getting between my legs, he ran beside me just fine tho. I left him there for a bath and vaccines. Can't wait to bring him back to my place and introduce him to my baby now.
 
Being in Southern Mexico (or any Latin American country) it's somwhat part of the culture to always leave dogs outside, but OP, follow the advice here and bring it inside.

Let it be a gringo dog.
 
alterno69 said:
And guess what shot they just gave him? Really people i'm not that negligent.
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Did you read the end? Or the reason that the shots are boosters? One shot is not nearly enough protection, and they aren't fully protected until they've finished their series at 16 weeks.
 
alterno69 said:
And guess what shot they just gave him? Really people i'm not that negligent.
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He was saying earlier that you shouldn't having him walking anywhere outside the house before you get him vaccinated.

Either way, it's done now and there are a lot of good tips in here. Follow them (well, most of them) and you should be fine.
 
Lol, some people almost calling me a monster for saying i can't walk him regularly till mid january and now i am one for walking him a couple of blocks, he didn't have contact with other dogs except at the vets place. Make up your mind people.
 
alterno69 said:
Lol, some people almost calling me a monster for saying i can't walk him regularly till mid january and now i am one for walking him a couple of blocks, he didn't have contact with other dogs except at the vets place. Make up your mind people.
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You're fine man.

I was almost on the same boat as you when I (should say girlfriend) got my dog about 3 years ago.

Definitely do a lot of research on the internet though.

This is an awesome forum if you need help/tips: http://www.lab-retriever.net/board/
 
giri said:
Dogs are outside animals. They're used to it.

Letting them inside is disgusting. Fur everywhere, they're not sanitary (obviously) and many many other reasons. It's just a bad habit.

That and, they're outside animals. They're meant to be guard dogs, you know, out side, guarding.
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You are so wrong on all counts. It's not even funny.
 
My dogs would not want to be inside, but they are working animals and they love working. They are Border Collies. They do not leave the farm to come to the house even though it is so easy for them to slip under the fence. It is their territory and every other animal on the farm respects it. It is kind of crazy when you watch the heirarchy of the animals. Those cows have no idea they are ten times bigger than the dog.

The neatest thing is when our dog had pups... we never had to train the pups how to herd cattle. They just watched their mother.

I just wanted to share that having a pet can be awesome and rewarding, just don't neglect your relationship with your pet.

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Wow this thread is fucked up.

I have an Australian Cattle Dog too. They are literally the most energetic/active/smart dogs on the planet next to maybe Border Collies.

If you can't take it for at least an hour walk/run/play a few times a day then it is definitely not the dog for you. Taking it "a couple blocks" doesn't count. Also, they worship their owners and always demand a job/instruction, so dumping it in the yard all alone is fucking animal abuse in my opinion. Especially when it's a BABY.

Here's mine when he was a puppy:
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and this is him full grown:
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Now that I have moved away from my parents, my wife and I want to get either a Bavarian Mountain Hound or a Rhodesian Ridgeback. They are both beautiful animals.
 
That's an adorable Australian Cattle Dog/Blue Heeler, OP. :) My brother has one and she's the most insane animal I've ever had the pleasure of meeting, but adorable nonetheless:

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You'll need to spend a lot of time with him and keep him active/occupied, or he'll get really mopey and act out. Keeping him outside by himself at this age seems pretty uncool.
 
He slept innthe laundry room yesterday and was actually really quiet save for maybe five minutes after i out him there. I let him into the house for a while but he peed twice lol, how do i train him to pee outside?
 
alterno69 said:
He slept innthe laundry room yesterday and was actually really quiet save for maybe five minutes after i out him there. I let him into the house for a while but he peed twice lol, how do i train him to pee outside?
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its easier with a crate, because Dogs are clean animals generally, and do not want to defecate where they nest

Keeping him in the laundry room might work if its a small area (he'll be less likely to pee and poop where he sleeps). but you pretty much have to keep him in there while you are breaking him in

so basically, every hour or so (puppies have small bladders), take him outside to his "spot" and stand there (on a leash) until he pees. After he pees make a big stupid fuss about how great he is, then give him a treat if you have some.

You can let him roam i guess after he pees, but put him back in his cage/laundry room soon, so he doesn't pee in the house
 
Yeah keep him crated/confided in one part of the house until you feel confident letting him out. Take him out hourly and make it a big deal when they pee outside. Some people disagree on this part but I gave treats whenever she peed or pooped outside. I felt like it helped speed up the process.

Also, do not punish your dog for peeing inside. It is your fault, not theirs. If you catch them in the act, make a loud noise to distract them, take them out side and praise them afterwards. If you find the mess after they pee and try to punish them, they don't know why you are mad. It is a live in the moment kind of thing.

Good luck with the house training! Also take lots of pics when they are pups. They grow fast.

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alterno69 said:
He slept innthe laundry room yesterday and was actually really quiet save for maybe five minutes after i out him there. I let him into the house for a while but he peed twice lol, how do i train him to pee outside?
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He is a puppy, so he hasn't really learned how to hold it yet. Crate training helps a lot. You should look into it.

Watch his body language. Like if he is sniffing the floor, or walking in circles, or getting ready to squat.. As soon as he does any of that, grab him and immediately run outside.

Another thing; about 10-15 minutes after you feed him, you should take him outside. When you're outside, don't play with him at all. Just wait (with him on the leash) until he eventually pees or poops. Praise him like a happy crazy maniac when he actually goes.

It might take awhile (depends on your dog and your training), but the only way he will learn is if you're consistent about it.
 
Ah, finally we get to the sweet and cute part of the thread! Awesome you let the little one in, i´m sure he will be a great addition to the family!
 
Ok let me get this straight, until he's potty trained he should be kept in his area inside the laundry room and only taken out to play or pee/poop?

Cause i've been keeping him in the yard/livingroom mainly. I had just put him in his area for him to eat and after reading the last replies i took him out about 30 mins after he ate with his leash and he indeed peed there almost immediatly. No poop tho, i put him back there and i'll take him out in an hour and see if he poops then.
 
alterno69 said:
So, Santa brought a little something unexpected yesterday.
Long story short, we caught someone sneaking in our backyard a month ago and it made my wife realise we needed a dog lol, i've been meaning to get one for me and my 6 year old kid but she was against it.

So we were trying to adopt one but since we wanted a medium to big dog it was getting hard, plus it had to be a puppy cause my son is afraid of dogs so the only way he'd accept it was if it was small enough.

So, a friend of us called us two days ago telling us her brother had a dog he wanted to give away and i went to pick it up yesterday.

And here he is :D (it's impossible to take a good pic cause he never stops moving)

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He's around 50 days old, It's supposed to be an Australian Shepherd but he looks kind of mixed to me, don't know much about that race or dogs in general to be honest.

So, i need advice in terms of training him and what not. So far he seems to understand that he is not allowed inside the house cause i left the screen door open just now and he keeps crying but stays outside which is awesome.
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Yeah that's not an Australian Shepard, its a Cattle Dog.

As a former ACD owner let me first say, congrats! You have one of the most awesome types of dogs ever.

They also require a bit of work, as they're highly intelligent and highly energetic.

They will try to nip you and herd you and everyone else in the house. There are a lot of schools of thoughts on how to curb or control this behavior. One thing I had a professional trainer show me is to fill an empty soda bottle (the small 20oz one) with rocks/pennies and shake it above the dogs head when its doing something wrong. Eventually you'll be able to shake the bottle away from the dog and it will know to stop the behavior.

Other things um, I don't really have ACD puppy training tips because the one I owned was 3 when I got him, so yeah. But exercise them, a lot! Long walks are good for them. One thing you might look for that I found was awesome is a dog training place that will allow your dog to do herding. I took my ACD out and taught him how to herd and it was great exercise for him and a great way to teach him to obey my voice.
 
We trained our dog by taking him outside every 30-45 minutes on a leash. When he would do his business he would get a small treat and then we'd head back inside. Once he figured out that he only does his business outside the treats stop.

Also, we put a small bell on the door that we would ring when we went outside to potty him as well. Then he would ring the bell and let us know he needed out. This eventually got abused though :)
 
Awesome info, i still can't let him freely around the house couse my six years old boy is afraid of him but we're working on that.
 
alterno69 said:
Ok let me get this straight, until he's potty trained he should be kept in his area inside the laundry room and only taken out to play or pee/poop?

Cause i've been keeping him in the yard/livingroom mainly. I had just put him in his area for him to eat and after reading the last replies i took him out about 30 mins after he ate with his leash and he indeed peed there almost immediatly. No poop tho, i put him back there and i'll take him out in an hour and see if he poops then.
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Nothing wrong with letting him in the other areas of the house but you have to monitor him. Keep him on a leash and have your eyes on him at all times. As he starts to become more and more housetrained, you start to let him roam a little bit more. You don't want to leave him alone and let him run around because he might just run and pee in a random corner.
 
alterno69 said:
He slept innthe laundry room yesterday and was actually really quiet save for maybe five minutes after i out him there. I let him into the house for a while but he peed twice lol, how do i train him to pee outside?
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They basically associate where they pee/poo with whatever sort of material is under their paws. This is why paper training works for apartment dogs and the like.

If you see the dog start to sort of circle/make like he's going to pee (this will become very obvious very quickly) then simply scoop him up without a word and bring the dog quickly to the grass. He might start to go along the way (puppy raising is fun) but believe me a dog like that will figure it out after 2-3 goes at this. Don't yell, you don't want him to think he's baing scolded, as they might associate peeing in front of you with being bad, which you don't want. They will want grass to pee on in short order. (or dirt, whatever.)

As for the inside/outside topic – it's actually pretty simple, what the outside dog people fail to realize is that a domesticated urban/suburban dog is a very different sort of creature from a farm/working dog, which is a lot closer to it's wild counterpart. All dogs are social but they will adapt to circumstances. Certain smarter breeds and more specialized breeds will want human companionship as a matter of course. That little puppy in the OP was crying because it had neither it's natural pack OR the surrogate humans to hear them breathe while it was sleeping. They sleep together. Anyways.

Good luck OP, feel free to PM if you need advice, I've been there many times.
 
FallingEdge said:
Yeah keep him crated/confided in one part of the house until you feel confident letting him out. Take him out hourly and make it a big deal when they pee outside. Some people disagree on this part but I gave treats whenever she peed or pooped outside. I felt like it helped speed up the process.

Also, do not punish your dog for peeing inside. It is your fault, not theirs. If you catch them in the act, make a loud noise to distract them, take them out side and praise them afterwards. If you find the mess after they pee and try to punish them, they don't know why you are mad. It is a live in the moment kind of thing.

Good luck with the house training! Also take lots of pics when they are pups. They grow fast.
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Listen to this man! Cute pup
 
Well the dog sleeps inside the house but spends most of his time in the yard during the day, i don't see the point of keeping him in his confined area when there's so much space for him outside and like i said we do hang out outside a lot, plus we have visitors for the holidays and there are 4 children playing outside practically all day, problem is as soon as i allow him to come inside the house(not to his confined space) he pees, i hold him and take him outside(i have a huuuge window so it's basically still inside but the floor is different on the other side, release him there and as soon as he walks inside he pees again lol.

This is after being outside for a while so it's not like he's been holding it or something, i mean literally 3 seconds after being inside the house he has to pee, what do i do?
 
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