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Donald Trump signs vague, pro-cop executive orders
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Being brown, you are already labeled that.
So these orders basically tell the police to think of something over the next year and report it to the Trump administration. This is a meaningless EO, it's just drivel that really offers no change and seems like an excuse for the administration to pretend to follow through on something when in reality they arent really doing anything at all. The downside to this is it may give police organizations carte blanche to go to town on citizens (minority) rights and make ridiculous demands that may be implemented during the current administration.
SENPAIatLARGE
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Now they don't even have to try and pretend what their intentions are.
crowphoenix
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I am surprised at the lack of "uppity" being used to describe the criminals.
A Link to the Past
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Oh good, Donald Trump's a criminal so things should be sorted out soon.
yes but that doesn't make them okay
while they cant actually change any laws or sentences, prosecutors do have extensive discretionary authority and adopting this policy is disturbing
it doesn't help that police are the force authoritarians use to keep the citizenry in check. Even if Trump can't immediately implement any of the goals in this order, it still shows he wants to
Random Painted HIghway
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These seem to me to be just issuing eos for the sake of it and to say something's being done. I don't find anything in these to be terribly significant frankly, but I haven't spent more than a minute or two reading them.
So those executive orders are basically:
- Get a task force together to talk about reducing crime
- Prosecute people who kill law enforcement officers more harshly, because that's the issue I guess
- Get a task force together to talk about fighting organized crime
Another one of those administration orders designed to look like it does things without actually doing anything. You'd think they'd have spent the two-and-a-half months before the inauguration actually planning some policy ideas.
Does this mean we'll actually get government studies on gun violence?
... Ah, who am I kidding.
- Get a task force together to talk about reducing crime
- Prosecute people who kill law enforcement officers more harshly, because that's the issue I guess
- Get a task force together to talk about fighting organized crime
Another one of those administration orders designed to look like it does things without actually doing anything. You'd think they'd have spent the two-and-a-half months before the inauguration actually planning some policy ideas.
Does this mean we'll actually get government studies on gun violence?
... Ah, who am I kidding.
It's a bit hard for me to parse what these orders mean exactly and how much teeth they have. They might be nothing burgers? That being said, its SUPER obvious what the intent is moving forward. Complaining about rising crime and violence against police when both have been getting better and the country safer year after year is just code for "fuck you PoC" :/
Happy Black History Month!
VendettaRed07
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What new powers does this even grant. This doesn't make any sense.
Beer Monkey
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When does he name Frank Miller to the cabinet?
Tom Nook
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So put on a blonde wig and you're safe?
Atomic Playboy
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Give more power to the Executive to define and enforce the laws it wants to. Gee, what could possibly go wrong with that?
Gentleman Jack
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""""Resisting arrest"""" to now be punishable with deportation to a random country on a dartboard.
It's a crime to be sitting in your car with your kids or walking while wearing a hoodie, I guess.
……forgetit
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Right.....I've heard that one before
From Trump and Sessions? Expect data on how many black people commit crimes. Maybe even a daily newsletter
No worries, then, except that they are aiming to broaden the definition of the word.
KO Traveling Hobo
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lol
DerangedHermit
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Hummm, why am i not surprised to see you post that ...
they are definitely going to criminalize protesting. that is definitely one of the things the gop is focusing on and they have already started doing that in some states.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19...ropose-bills-to-criminalize-peaceful-protest/
they can't completely get rid of protesting but any little infraction is going to be made a serious crime until people are too afraid to protest in public where it makes a difference. trump is definitely going to go along with this.
https://theintercept.com/2017/01/19...ropose-bills-to-criminalize-peaceful-protest/
they can't completely get rid of protesting but any little infraction is going to be made a serious crime until people are too afraid to protest in public where it makes a difference. trump is definitely going to go along with this.
Kill Your Masters
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Fixed.
SENPAIatLARGE
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These seem...okay-ish? Like I expected it to be like "Federal hate-crime with minimum 10 years for resisting arrest", and these just seem like extremely lofty hypothetical orders. Like "we're gonna have MEETINGS to figure out HOW TO STOP THE BAD GUYS it's gonna be 'UGE". Would love to hear some interpretations about how wrong I am.
Though this one in particular:
(a) enforce all Federal laws in order to enhance the protection and safety of Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers, and thereby all Americans;
...seems like it could be an executive order enforcing weed illegality (among other federal laws that some states ignore) nationally. Not that states that have legalized aren't going to fight tooth and nail if it does.
Though this one in particular:
(a) enforce all Federal laws in order to enhance the protection and safety of Federal, State, tribal, and local law enforcement officers, and thereby all Americans;
...seems like it could be an executive order enforcing weed illegality (among other federal laws that some states ignore) nationally. Not that states that have legalized aren't going to fight tooth and nail if it does.
I'm not convinced this isn't what he wants. All signs say he's trying to instigate shit so they have excuses to take more extreme action (yes, more extreme then this).
Felix Lighter
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A window into the thought process of your typical Trump supporter. These aren't conservatives. They'd hand the man dictatorial power if they could.
Was this EO needed for them to have that authority though? Not really. Feels like something they're doing to get the cops on their side without yet helping them at all.
You shouldn't mind the government (or the public now, for that matter) reading your emails or listening in on your phone calls unless you've got something to hide, right?
Gordon Shumway
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Or you're presumed a criminal because of who you are. Wait. Nevermind..enjoy yourself.
Username1198
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Yea police never harass minorities for being minorities. That's a myth made up by libtards.
It's becoming clear he just likes signing executive orders and feeling important. Many of them have just been basically "uh, do better?" or "we'll look into doing stuff, but OFFICIALLY".
A couple had immediate direct consequences but most have been total fluff, just there to make it sound like he's doing loads of stuff. More PR trash.
A couple had immediate direct consequences but most have been total fluff, just there to make it sound like he's doing loads of stuff. More PR trash.
It sends a message and emboldens our already trigger happy cops.
Yes, that's the plan from the looks of it. Protests are the most powerful tool we've got, and they're definitely going to look for ways to prevent people from doing that in large numbers like we've seen over the last three months. Congress will go along with it easily, especially when protesters are showing up to McConnell's house on Capitial Hill.
I'm not sure how quickly it'll be to get enacted, but I'm certain they're going to try and do it sooner rather than later.
That's low grade protection. I want cameras in my house being monitored by the police at all times. I know I have nothing to hide. Actually as a single White male in my 30s I should probably be sent to a camp for everybody's safety seeing as how I am a danger to children. Better safe than sorry.
MightyHedgehog
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Though it's vague as fuck, it seems like there's a clear intention toward creating more of a police state with no mention of reform in sight. Anyone who is easily identifiable as a minority, start puckering your buttholes 'cause this new AG is a real slimy southern racist who is going to architect your future defilement by law enforcement and the justice system.
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