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[Rebel Leader]

even a broken clock is right twice a day

i know i would love to have a sweet sweet collection of RPGs

I would also like to classify SAM's as a firearm.. Never know when I might need them



Does this mean I can own a nuke?

 

[Mr-Joker]

If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

Sooo free health care isn't a right, but owning a gun to shoot an imaginary threat is a right.

Folk if you vote this guy as your president the whole world is going to go back at laughing at you.

GUN AND MAGAZINE BANS. Gun and magazine bans are a total failure.

I dunno, UK has a strict gun law and we seem to be doing okay.

 

[HP_Wuvcraft]

Owning a gun is a right?

No, defending your home from a government invasion is a right.

Do people honestly believe that the founding fathers just one day said "We like guns, so owning a gun should be a right"?

 

[Pryce]

His polls just jumped up five points.

 

[Sojgat]

A driver’s license works in every state, so it’s common sense that a concealed carry permit should work in every state. If we can do that for driving – which is a privilege, not a right – then surely we can do that for concealed carry, which is a right, not a privilege.

I just can't.

 

[Hexa]

I should probably learn to shoot one of these days. Guns scare the crap out of me though.

 

[DudeWithNoName]

A driver's license works in any state, so legalized marijuana should work in any state.

Now THIS I can get behind!

 

[deadlast]

A lot of stuff Donald says is basically "Fuck States' Rights, let the fed control it." I'm for more gun control, and if this guy gets in office I just hope he ups the requirements for background checks.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I should probably learn to shoot one of these days. Guns scare the crap out of me though.

Gun ranges are pretty fun, man.

 

[Miles Quaritch]

Pretty smart play here by Trump. He's catching flak for the Muslim inaction and decides to completely change the narrative.

 

[HariKari]

I should probably learn to shoot one of these days. Guns scare the crap out of me though.

Take a class. Not scary at all if you learn how to properly handle them.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

I hope one day we get a stacked 9 liberal Supreme Court and they hear a case regarding the Second Amendment and rule a reinterpretation that gun ownership is limited to members of state regulated and authorized militias, namely the National Guard.

 

[Limited Edition]

I should probably learn to shoot one of these days. Guns scare the crap out of me though.

Just go take a shooter class. There is nothing wrong with being afraid of firearms, but once you know how to use and handle them properly that fear turns more into respect than anything else.

I hope one day we get a stacked 9 liberal Supreme Court and they hear a case regarding the Second Amendment and rule a reinterpretation that gun ownership is limited to members of state regulated and authorized militias, namely the National Guard.

Every person between the ages of 18 and I think 42 is part of the national militia. SO even that wont work. Nice try though!

 

[GoldenEye 007]

The firearm of my choice?

Come at me.

Nothing stopping you. It's a class III device. Legal to own. Just a couple extra steps, though. And they're just expensive in general. But a lot of full auto or destructive devices are.

 

[zeemumu]

That sounds like a child's solution to gun control

"You can only have a gun if you're good. If you're bad then we won't give you a gun."

 

[Zultan]

A driver's license works in any state, so legalized marijuana should work in any state.

Here here! Let's get this passed!

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Pretty smart play here by Trump. He's catching flak for the Muslim inaction and decides to completely change the narrative.

Taking this position is idiotic if he actually wanted to win more than the nomination, which now I'm not so sure he did. It's too simple of a mistake for anyone who has a bare minimum of common sense about what it would take for him to defy the odds and actually win. He would have had to stay much more in the middle on this issue. It's over now, if it wasn't already.

 

[RDreamer]

I'm just going to kind of flip things around and say he's right.

He's right that if we interpret the 2nd Amendment in that (really stupid) way, then he's right. In my opinion if we really literally think guns are a right, then why should the government pick and choose which ones? Same thing I've said in other threads, too, that if we think owning a gun is a right, then we can't have background checks and not allow them to people with mental problems, too.

That's why owning a gun isn't a fucking right. It's a privilege.

 

[Tal Shiar Agent]

Just go take a shooter class. There is nothing wrong with being afraid of firearms, but once you know how to use and handle them properly that fear turns more into respect than anything else.



Every person between the ages of 18 and I think 42 is part of the national militia. SO even that wont work. Nice try though!

The Second Amendment only provides for a "well regulated militia" which could be interpreted as only the Organized Militia (National Guard) defined under the Militia Act of 1903 and not Reserve Militia.

 

[Eighty Deuce]

Repel the NFA and I'll vote Trump, then again I don't trust him. I think he would be the first person to push gun control based on his background

 

[commedieu]

Fuck it. Lets all get guns? I mean..


Fuck it.

 

[iMax]

Well this has firmly cemented Trump's status as a moron.

 

[Hexa]

Taking this position is idiotic if he actually wanted to win more than the nomination, which now I'm not so sure he did. It's too simple of a mistake for anyone who has a bare minimum of common sense about what it would take for him to defy the odds and actually win. He would have had to stay much more in the middle on this issue. It's over now, if it wasn't already.

I think he leaves himself enough room around the background check aspect that he'll be able to pivot closer to the middle ground for the general. He really needed a kick for his campaign right now though, and due to the decisiveness around gun control in both parties I think this will quickly become the focus of debate and distract from his horrible performance lately. He can definitely recover from this. He can't recover from the "Obama is a Muslim" issue continuing to be at forefront.

 

[B-Dubs]

Any gun we want? Does that apply to these?

 

[EatinOlives]

Well this has firmly cemented Trump's status as a moron.

His anti-Vaxxer stance wasn't bad enough

 

[rjinaz]

Any gun we want? Does that apply to these?

Of course. But only for the top 2 percent.

 

[mreddie]

He's kissing way too much ass for votes.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Fuck it. Lets all get guns? I mean..


Fuck it.

"Fuck it"
- Trump, moments before the page went live

I think he leaves himself enough room around the background check aspect that he'll be able to pivot closer to the middle ground for the general. He really needed a kick for his campaign right now though, and due to the decisiveness around gun control in both parties I think this will quickly become the focus of debate and distract from his horrible performance lately. He can definitely recover from this. He can't recover from the "Obama is a Muslim" issue continuing to be at forefront.

The country is not on board with aggressive takes promoting more gun ownership right now, if ever again. He doesn't need to pander to the base anymore, they're borderline insane. The country will resoundingly reject a candidate with this position, not to mention that he doesn't need the added burden of having to defend such a difficult position. It's the death knell.

 

[RDreamer]

Any gun we want? Does that apply to these?

According to Scalia it only applies to something you can physically carry. Remember you have to be able to bear your arms.

 

[Netherscourge]

Everyone is a good, law-abiding citizen... until they unlawfully kill someone with their gun.

 

[B-Dubs]

According to Scalia it only applies to something you can physically carry. Remember you have to be able to bear your arms.

What if I take the nuclear material out of the missile and threw it in a briefcase with some C-4?

 

[Rebel Leader]

Any gun we want? Does that apply to these?

Oh yea


I want some ICBMs too

you know for reasons

According to Scalia it only applies to something you can physically carry. Remember you have to be able to bear your arms.

The same Scalia who said pure applesauce and jiggery pokery

 

[Hexa]

According to Scalia it only applies to something you can physically carry. Remember you have to be able to bear your arms.

So brief case bombs are a ok. Got it.

 

[RDreamer]

What if I take the nuclear material out of the missile and threw it in a briefcase with some C-4?

So brief case bombs are a ok. Got it.

Now you guys got it!

 

[B-Dubs]

Now you guys got it!

What if I put the ICBM on the back of a pickup truck?

 

[J Range]

I see nothing wrong with him saying concealed carry license should be a nation wide license like a drivers license. It should be.

 

[rjinaz]

What if I put the ICBM on the back of a pickup truck?

There's really no need. You can fit those things in pencil cases these days.

 

[RDreamer]

What if I put the ICBM on the back of a pickup truck?

The second amendment refers to the right to “keep and bear” arms, so that it “does not apply to arms that cannot be hand-carried…It doesn’t apply to cannons.”

 

[Kettch]

Study after study has shown that very few criminals are stupid enough to try and pass a background check – they get their guns from friends/family members or by stealing them.

This is exactly why background checks aren't enough. We need to start ridding our country of guns, not flooding it with more of them.

 

[Rebel Leader]

The second amendment refers to the right to “keep and bear” arms, so that it “does not apply to arms that cannot be hand-carried…It doesn’t apply to cannons.”

so, he is infringing on my second amendment right to tell me what I can and can not have?

The definition of arms is: weapons and ammunition; armaments.


ICBM are all 3

 

[rjinaz]

This is exactly why background checks aren't enough. We need to start ridding our country of guns, not flooding it with more of them.

You're missing the point. The problem is obviously mental health. Let's stop criminals from becoming criminals in the first place. I can't tell you how we'll do that, probably more jail and the death penalty but in the mean time, here's a gun so you feel safe.

 

[Aselith]

The firearm of my choice?

Come at me.

Slow moving one and done projectile? You bet your ass I'm coming at you.

 

[Wolfgunblood Garopa]

Slow moving one and done projectile? You bet your ass I'm coming at you.

All you have to do is dodge at exactly the right moment, then press X to speed boost and CQC.

 

[Dai101]

Suddenly i'm starting to like his "wall in the border" idea.

 

[Dryk]

The second amendment refers to the right to “keep and bear” arms, so that it “does not apply to arms that cannot be hand-carried…It doesn’t apply to cannons.”

That is not how a reasonable person reads the phrase "bear arms". That sounds like he's reaching in order to justify why the line that already exists is allowed and can never move.

 

[RDreamer]

That is not how a reasonable person reads the phrase "bear arms". That sounds like he's reaching in order to justify why the line that already exists is allowed and can never move.

Obviously Scalia's a fucking moron. Remember people, he was the majority opinion on the case that gave us gun rights as they exist right now.

 

[Horns]

Makes sense since they're pandering to the far right.

 

[Marty Chinn]

Owning a gun is a right?

Whether you like guns or not, it is a right.

 

[unholyrevenger72]

Ain't no one gonna fuck with me

 

[Bodacious]

The Second Amendment only provides for a "well regulated militia" which could be interpreted as only the Organized Militia (National Guard) defined under the Militia Act of 1903 and not Reserve Militia.

You need to read it a few more times. The right belongs to the people, to enable the possibility of raising of a well-regulated militia. The current existence of that militia is not a pre-condition to the people having the right. Even if the government purports to negate the need for militias by supplying its own, the people still own the right, exclusive of the government's actions.

Do you think the right of the people to petition the Government for a redress of grievances, as provided in the 1st amendment, disappears because nobody uses the word 'redress' anymore? Does the internet negate the right of the people to peaceably assemble, since you can just chat online instead?


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