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Dota 2 is absolutely wrecking my gaming life
- Thread starter gravitybear
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That's correct.
Austriacus
Member
You have no idea what you are missing, when you win that one game that was SO CLOSE AND SO HEATED UP, man, mine turns into a BLOODY SUCUBUS
Snapshot King
Member
I suppose I have uncommon tastes for the reasons I play, say, fighters, compared to most folks.
Yeah from your post, its like you like fighters because of matchups, like this move beats that and this character has better tools against that one. In my case, that just sound like theory that you need to learn before attemping to go for predictions and try to maintain the correct spacing so your things workout and the opponent things dont. That dance around trying to get in the perfect position, a well timed move or a perfect prediction is what makes fighters for me. I loved the first time I landed a red fire ball into a fadc into a ultra with ryu in ssf4, all because I knew my opponent would expect me to jump in.
Edit: That part translates really well into dota, in all phases of the game you need to be positioned perfectly to maximize your chances of survival (and thus how much you can affect battles). And just having different heroes on both teams make you rethink your positioning.
It's probably less, also you have to pay major $$$ or invest major time to unlock all the characters.
dark_prinny
Banned
Sad. Very sad indeed to spend such a huge amount of time in just one game. But to each their own.
SnakeSlashRO
Banned
I could almost say I play Phatasy Star Online 2 (Free2Play MMO) and Ultimate Marvel vs Capcom 3 with a splish splash of Skullgirls exclusively, but I have been buying other games (via steam) that I don't play.
I think the only thing to do is stop following gaming news and force myself to not buy anything else. I guess im not as much as a gamer as I used to be, and when I do game it's just the games above.
I think the only thing to do is stop following gaming news and force myself to not buy anything else. I guess im not as much as a gamer as I used to be, and when I do game it's just the games above.
dark_prinny
Banned
You're right.
I can relate to this, I played only DOTA 1 exclusively around 2006-07 during college.
I've made a lot of friends during those years,
I see some of them from time to time and sometimes we talk about those great matches we had.
I think part of your personality translates to the way you play and it's why it is the best thing to play with friends, they'll get to know you when playing.
RPS did an article on this but too lazy to find it
I've made a lot of friends during those years,
I see some of them from time to time and sometimes we talk about those great matches we had.
I think part of your personality translates to the way you play and it's why it is the best thing to play with friends, they'll get to know you when playing.
RPS did an article on this but too lazy to find it
sad???
the fuck?
"Hey bro, you know that thing you're really enjoying? You are having too much fun. Gear down."
Eternal Gamer
Member
I have around 900 hours.
The thing is I keep "discovering" heros and ways to play them, that keeps me playing the game.
The thing is I keep "discovering" heros and ways to play them, that keeps me playing the game.
iSurvivedTheOutage
Member
The community plus the developers is what makes it just THAT much great. Even the trolls are good. I've slowed down this summer, though( over 3100 hours over the past year.)
I'm with you op.
I'm with you op.
Plenty of people can't stop because they are hooked.
What if that game is better than all the other games?
"You're having too much fun with this game. Real America keeps buying more games even if they're already happy and don't need more."
There is no other game that is as easy to get a competitive game in such a small window. It takes up like 99.7% of brain space, and that feeling is amazing. It's competition, insane mechanics, tons of information and data to parse, and nearly infinite replay value thanks to constantly changing meta,
If that's your bag, there's no reason to play anything else.
If that's your bag, there's no reason to play anything else.
JakkuFurosu
Member
Just going to the same restaurant is a more apt description with the hero pool and no 2 games being the same but same scenery . If i need to expand my horizons theirs always meepo.
Doto too much fun, volvo plz fix.
Gully State
Member
It's more like getting a free tasting menu at 3 michelin star restaurant that's different all the time as opposed to paying $60 to eat at Applebee's, Chili's or Red Lobsters...
The first of several relevant problems I have with this analogy: there are no cost savings in your example. If I buy the same meal every time I go to a restaurant, I still pay full price every single time and don't save money compared to buying a different meal each time. Now imagine if, instead, you could pay for the meal once and then every single time you came back it was free forever. If that were the case, I think you'd see a much, much more compelling case for eating the same meal every single time.
zero margin
Member
I've tried watching videos for dota and it sounds like a foreign language. I'll stick to my pick up and play games I guess.
War Peaceman
You're a big guy.
Not to mention Dota is an incredibly organic and varied game. Different roles play very, very differently and different heroes within those roles function very differently. The game is very deep and very complex and in some regards it could be said that each hero is a game in itself. So it isn't really the same meal at all.
-MD-
Member
I keep trying to get into DOTA 2 but if you queue with just 1 other friend you get matched up against a 5 man premade 80% of the time and it's a pretty much guaranteed loss. My friend won't even queue with me anymore because he says it's easier to win with solo-queue.
Not to mention the community spitting venom at players through text on a minute to minute basis.
It's just a really hard game to get into if you don't have a full group of friends to play with, I'm surprised it's even this popular tbh.
Not to mention the community spitting venom at players through text on a minute to minute basis.
It's just a really hard game to get into if you don't have a full group of friends to play with, I'm surprised it's even this popular tbh.
The thing is, there are gameplay balance and changes, tweaks here and there, so when someone says "I played 1000 hours of Dota" dont compare it with "I played 1000 hours of CoD4", but think it as "I played 1000 hours of the CoD Series". The game has changed a lot over the years, and I don't mean the metagame, I mean mechanics, heroes, items, etc.
Well the OP says this:
So it doesn't seem like cost is the issue at hand. Or rather that the relevant cost is the opportunity cost rather than the direct one (only so much time to play games).
Andronicus
Banned
any time i play dota 2 its with random people.My team are usually all in 1 lane & the other team is gettin free farm, while i just keep getting ganked & we all get severely out leveled
so my experience is at the opposite side of the scale lol...but practice some self control
so my experience is at the opposite side of the scale lol...but practice some self control
hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka
Member
Dota 2 is the definitive video game. The industry has reached its end-game. It's time for a reset.
TouchMyBox
Member
Just play whichever game is most fun.
SMNC is better.
Angry Puppy
Member
Do you find it sad that you can't enjoy a game as much as OP does?
devotedgmr17
Banned
Probably the worst idea ever. I have friends who sometimes go days or weeks being pissed off at each other, and not talking to each other because of LoL or Dota 2.
For that matter alone, I honestly refuse to play it. The community is way too venomous for me to enjoy it, and seeing my friends get pissed at each other for stupid things just completely destroys any want or desire for me to participate.
Oh yes.... off to play some more.
Good to see new players starting up, but get on my level.
I really should go play one game to get that last hour
hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka
Member
Sounds like the problem is with your friends. I play with 3-4 different communities, real friends, internet friends from old games, etc and the anger is always kept in the game or at most 5 minutes after the game ends. After that, everyone's laughing it up and waiting for the next match to start.
My friend is in this situation with Dark Souls PvP. Everytime I hang out with him we might start playing a different game, but then he'll throw in Dark Souls and just get summoned into people's games. Over and over and over and over. To no end. He keeps buying new games too, but rarely finishes them. It's like a curse. And I hate it because he can't talk about any game besides Dark Souls.
Being content with what you have is considered a negative trait in western culture. You can't build a booming economy by teaching people to be happy with who they are and what they have - you need to have MORE sex, get bigger muscles, earn more money, because if you're standing still for even a minute someone else might zoom right past you.
The older I get, the more I believe that zen buddhists have figured it out. Their lifes might seem really boring and bland to outsiders, but they understand that having the right attitude is everything.
More on topic: I love the idea of mastering a specific game. Some people get insanely good at Tetris The Grandmaster, others do sword-only runs of Radiant Silvergun or obsess over their towns in Animal Crossing. Or chess, Go, speedruns, Rubiks cube. I always buy new games hoping that this might quench my thirst for new games for a couple of weeks at least, but it's rare that games keep my interest for as long as I hope for. Only Moster Hunter and Animal Crossing have kept me occupied past the 100 hour mark so far.
I have never played Dota, but its compelling nature seems to come from being mechanically interesting and very deep, not from using nasty skinner box behaviour manipulation. To me, playing a game that is actually making me concentrate each second I play is vastly more worthwhile than a title that sucks me in with mindless grinding and carrot-on-a-stick schemes.
I find it really sad that being really into a certain game, let alone a competetive title with incredible depth, is somehow considered a bad thing amongst certain "gamers". If you enjoy yourself, you enjoy yourself - no matter whether or not you might theoretically enjoy something else even more.
BlastProcessing
Member
Dota is the golf of videogames.
It is very much an issue, as the OP admits in a later post, just not one he has leveraged properly. As others have said, operating under the assumption that he is still enjoying DotA 2, the logical choice is to drop all those other games and keep playing DotA2 until he isn't having fun anymore, at which point buying other games again makes sense (and at that point, he can buy the same games he has sitting on the shelf now for a lower cost).
Further and more importantly, this is clearly a broader discussion and not exclusively or specifically about the OP; it's generally about the value of playing lots of games instead of just one, and vice versa.
I kind of have the same problem, it's not so much the game itself as the fact that it became a regular social activity.
Tho, I don't really think it's wrecking my life. I'm at 1400 hours in 2 years, which is not as much per week than some people.
I had several week/month long dota breaks, and surprise, it did a lot of good, not only for my (gaming) life, but also for my dota skill. As a decades long Tekken vet, I know for a fact that long breaks are not hurtful, and sometimes a necessity. That the best players are not those who kill themselves playing non-stop all year, but those who just learn the right things and play smart (and train with the right partners).
In fact, my real current issue with dota is two-fold: one is that I don't play with the right guys, and two is that I play too many games that teach me nothing because of that.
I know I could easily play only half my usual times while getting much better, if only I had more better partners who could play in proper captain's mode.
"Playing more" is not the only factor in skill progression.
Tho, I don't really think it's wrecking my life. I'm at 1400 hours in 2 years, which is not as much per week than some people.
I had several week/month long dota breaks, and surprise, it did a lot of good, not only for my (gaming) life, but also for my dota skill. As a decades long Tekken vet, I know for a fact that long breaks are not hurtful, and sometimes a necessity. That the best players are not those who kill themselves playing non-stop all year, but those who just learn the right things and play smart (and train with the right partners).
In fact, my real current issue with dota is two-fold: one is that I don't play with the right guys, and two is that I play too many games that teach me nothing because of that.
I know I could easily play only half my usual times while getting much better, if only I had more better partners who could play in proper captain's mode.
"Playing more" is not the only factor in skill progression.
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