la flama blanca
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I'm guessing they will increase the rate in which they are dropped, by I already have a discounted favor down the drain
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I'm guessing they will increase the rate in which they are dropped, by I already have a discounted favor down the drain
Dotabuff doesn't count RAD matches. They are in the no stats recorded tab though. Which is annoying as fuck since in-game they do count.
I saw a Phoenix using its abilities while standing in a Death Prophet ultimate. -_-
Dreams-Visions
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Dagon Phoenix is the funniest shit ever.
just watched iceiceice get wrecked with TB. He was just getting exploded late. Too much burst for him to do anything. A function of his build as much as anything, but he wasn't a happy camper.
just watched iceiceice get wrecked with TB. He was just getting exploded late. Too much burst for him to do anything. A function of his build as much as anything, but he wasn't a happy camper.
Head of Vengarl
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I was laughing my ass off whizzing around with Ball Lightning as Kunkka. Too bad I had like no mana for the entire game.
shira
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Get 4 friends and its very worth it.
Purple Cheeto
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Riot approved.
balladofwindfishes
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Ability Draft makes me realize why we don't have any ranged bash heroes. That stuff isn't fun at all to play against.
Dreams-Visions
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touche.
also, Troll Warlord approved. lol. One of my favorite salty matches was going Medusa with a Troll on my team.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/241805295
Results were...as expected. all-chat salt was real. :3
now more obnoxious than ever!
la flama blanca
Banned
I always play in a full stack, but I'm the only one willing to pay lol
Dreams-Visions
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*holds*I don't think we'll ever get over that Drow.
hold me.
That reminds me, have to put some more games into Drow, see how the buffs handle. Hopefully no more Force Staff builds!
Haven't seen a good Phoenix yet.
Can't wait for the fad to die out so I can scum pick him all the time.
Sgt.Pepper
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touche.
also, Troll Warlord approved. lol. One of my favorite salty matches was going Medusa with a Troll on my team.
http://dotabuff.com/matches/241805295
Results were...as expected. all-chat salt was real. :3
now more obnoxious than ever!
Minibashes. The melee bashes are way more dangeroes (and longer).
That's why I was wondering cuz the game does count them. But those discrepancies are what make the winrate and stuff different in dotabuff to the main game.
Dreams-Visions
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I really, really feels like a blessing and a curse. You can push people out of right-click range of YOU...but it can also have the effect of fucking your teammates over for any kills they may want to chase down by pushing the enemy out of range of them too. It's very much like a deafening blast, but without the momentary stun of deafening. So for example, sometimes if you push 2 away and both run, you and your team will only be able to get one (with the frost arrow slow) and the other will escape, where before you could handle one and the team could grab the other.
It could also lead to missed hookshots, pudge hooks and other skill shots. Not sure if it can push people out of a black hole, but I assume it can.
I don't know how I feel about it.
yea they are. but minibashes aren't to be ignored. also, skullbasher on sniper is still legit.
balladofwindfishes
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Went against Huskar with Beserker's Blood and Slardar's Bash last night
It wasn't fun at all... If he saw you, you were dead, there was nothing you could do other than hope one of your teammates was around.
People love to remember how the hero was first introduced and ignore all the subsequent nerfs. This is exactly what happened with Ember.
Dreams-Visions
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Ember was never a strong hero though, he was a pubstomper, like Riki or sniper, but with admitadly more legitimacy. He was never, ever OP, but since Dota 1 in general has a lower skill level than Dota2 and pubstompers galored. Since earth is a support, he was ignored.
I'm not totally sure, but I want him to be buffed. But I want feel Razor needs more buffs, so I'm likely not a bastion of balancing insight.
Pureauthor
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Really, he doesn't need the Treants. With Rearm, he can just keep Converting his Eidolons
The thing that amazes me with ember is how he was supposedly ever considered a god when he first came out in dota 1. All of his nerfs are fairly minor to be honest, minus armor, minus base strength, shackles from 3 to 2 targets, these aren't morphling-esque nerfs that change the way the hero is played or completely neuter him, with or without his +2 armor or +2 str he (to me) would seemingly play the same. I guess they do add up, but the only big one IMO is the fire remnant mana cost (from 100 to 150) since the hero is so mana intensive.
Wish he would get a hefty base int or int growth buff to alleviate (just a tad!) his reliance on arcane boots or a CM.
Wish he would get a hefty base int or int growth buff to alleviate (just a tad!) his reliance on arcane boots or a CM.
Schweinehund
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I think the big one was like you said the mana cost and I'm pretty sure his spellshield use to be a lot more at rank 1, like 200-300 damage.
Between 6.73 to now, his the Flame Guard Barrior has been changed from 150/300/450/600 to 50/200/350/500. DPS was actually upped though.
Sgt.Pepper
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Impossible to watch any replay. Even the ones already downloaded.
balladofwindfishes
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I think heroes are better balanced once they come into Dota 2. Earth wasn't touched until half a year later when he was added to Dota 2. Ember will probably be the same (except in the opposite direction)
I think Dota 2 just has more data for Ice Frog to work with and he has a bigger team to help him test and add balance suggestions.
I think Dota 2 just has more data for Ice Frog to work with and he has a bigger team to help him test and add balance suggestions.
Earth Spirit now has the worst win rate of any hero ever, 34%.
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Pureauthor
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I wonder how many of these losses are due to people who aren't even aware 6.80 happened.
Yea it's why I'm not gonna play it much until dotabuff does count them or until the game doesn't count them. Otherwise the difference between the 2 will be too big. I dunno what they were thinking.
Sucks because the mode itself is really fun.
why does it matter?
balladofwindfishes
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Someone on the dev forums says Bane's infamous Blink Dagger line works now?
If so, that's awesome
If so, that's awesome
Head of Vengarl
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Dota 2: Where some people care about the stats more than having fun playing the actual game.
Sgt.Pepper
Banned
I like them being the same. Personal preference.
Mostly this. Dota1 had no MM and people varied greatly in skill in game, and ember was absurd to play in such contests cause you would rampage with 3 bfury every other game constistently. In dota2, on the other hand, being a good support cna be much more profitable cause it's something less people are less good at, and all other things being equal, you can win the game.
Dreams-Visions
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To be expected, honestly. Not because the hero is that much worse, but because people who've been playing him a lot for months need to retrain their brains. That's going to take a little time. His winrate was never high in the first place.
And I'm sure it will probably stay that way for a while, with very few players being good at the hero. I bet you he makes it in CM by 6.81 and will be first pick first ban there.
Earth Spirit is not going in CM in 2014. Mark my words.
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