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Atilac said:
I thought bioware said it didn't have specter/jedi/greywarden deus ex elements?
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There's no secret/exclusive organization you join this time. The part where you come from a relatively minor position is still there though.
 
In terms of the PC version, BioWare's leaving a lot of the user-interface the same, though they have added a quick command for stamina and health potions on the right side of the action bar. You can still pause the action with the space bar and issue commands to your team, but you should expect to see some changes to how you view fights. Although what we saw wasn't final, it looks like Bioware is developing a new camera for the PC version that's focused less on getting a bird's eye view and more on zooming in around the battlefield and enemy locations. It looks great so far, but expect to hear more about closer to the game's launch.
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Heh. Knew it.

Remember when a DA2 dev went on the Bioware forum and tried to defend the new camera, and when he was criticized by others and I for his transparent doublespeak, some people were like "but he doesn't work in PR he'd have no reason to be deceitful!"?

Attention:

This was just posted by Mike Laidlaw on the DA forums:

Hey folks,

Victor managed to hunt me down, and I wanted to clear up a few things with regards to what I'm seeing as the two major concerns on this thread.

First off, let's talk about the toolset issue. Obviously in this community there's going to be some concern that we wouldn't release a toolset, so let me clear the air a little: The tools we're using to make Dragon Age 2 are very, very close to the tools you guys have used to make your mods for DA:O. They're not identical, as we've made a few in-house improvements, but they're almost identical. As such, there isn't a new toolset to release, per se.

While we won't be releasing a toolset update in tandem with Dragon Age 2, we ARE investigating what it would take to update the community toolset to match ours, along with providing DA2 content in the future.

As to the subject of tactical view, I can confirm that we will not be doing a tactical view on consoles, though we are looking into some expanded party control that I think will make console players quite happy.

On the PC, however, we are still working with the camera to keep the key elements of the tactical experience there. I was actually playtesting some new camera code when Victor found me, in fact, so I can give you the latest news on that front.

While we likely won't pull as far up as we did in DA:O, I have always felt that the key to tactical play was actually freeing your camera from the character you're controlling to issue precise orders, which is what we're tuning now. So, this means you can still maneuver the camera around the battlefield and issue orders from a remote location, just as you could in Origins.

As you can probably tell from my phrasing, all of this is a bit in-flux right now, so things may change between now and ship, but I wanted to update you guys on the current direction of things.
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We're not going to be getting any DA:O-style overhead camera. That much is clear at this point.
 
butsomuch said:
New IGN preview (with new screens)
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I'm kind of surprised at the amount of spoilers in that article. Fans of the first game should be careful on page two. There are some pretty big (IMO) spoilers going on there.

But, besides that, I think it's a huge mistake to limit players to the human race. I mean, really? Being able to choose class/gender/appearance is cool and all, but one of Dragon Age's really endearing qualities was how much the game CHANGED when you were a different race/background. I think that is a big mistake for them.
 
Zeliard said:
Heh. Knew it.

Remember when a DA2 dev went on the Bioware forum and tried to defend the new camera, and when he was criticized by others and I for his transparent doublespeak, some people were like "but he doesn't work in PR he'd have no reason to be deceitful!"?



We're not going to be getting any DA:O-style overhead camera. That much is clear at this point.
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Yeah pretty much expected this as well. Guess this is going off my radar unless something substantial is revealed...
 
Trailer was good, screens not so good (bad)

But I have faith in the team. Don't let me down, dickballs.
 
No words.

Okay lots of words. I love how Hawke starts fighting the guy normally, then when he's about to overwhelmed goes "OH SHIT I CAN SHIFT MY ARMS THROUGH INTERDIMENSIONAL PORTALS AND RIP OFF HIS ARMS LOL". If you've got it, then why not fucking use it?

Those screens are amazingly bad. Why not resize them to get some supersampling so that they're not a jaggy mess at the very least? And the comments about the camera make it sound like KOTOR, maybe with some camera movement that isn't locked to a character view. That's progress for ya.
 
Vigilant Walrus said:
Someone needs to dust off all these threads when the game is released. It would be funny if the game turns up looking good with all this negativity. I mean people are whining like little school girls.

I don't know if it will be good enough... but what's wrong with CGI trailers? Yeah you want gameplay, but STFU! At some point it just turns to senseless bashing...
Game might end up bad like all games, but I think Bioware at least deserves the benefit of the doubt considering their two previous games turned out better than one could have expected given the hype!
Be fair and instead of this hate train. GAF is sometimes awful at this... One starts hating or being negative and the rest of the bunch follows.
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Don't take it personally, our PC brethren just need to vent. As a console gamer I think it looks pretty good.
 
rush777 said:
Don't take it personally, our PC brethren just need to vent. As a console gamer I think it looks pretty good.
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'Pretty good?'

My Pc runs games at sub-Ps3/360 levels and DA1 STILL looks better than those screens.
 
rush777 said:
Don't take it personally, our PC brethren just need to vent. As a console gamer I think it looks pretty good.
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Console graphics must be getting pretty long in the tooth if what we seen of Dragon Age 2 is considered "pretty good." The ever so totally not "super hot" graphics is not even the problem i have with DA2.. its everything other than graphics that Bioware has changed that is causing concern. Especially when they cant even give a straight answer to questions like "is there an overhead view?" 6 months before the game launches.
 
jim-jam bongs said:
Okay lots of words. I love how Hawke starts fighting the guy normally, then when he's about to overwhelmed goes "OH SHIT I CAN SHIFT MY ARMS THROUGH INTERDIMENSIONAL PORTALS AND RIP OFF HIS ARMS LOL". If you've got it, then why not fucking use it?
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Now this is just nitpicking. They're just making it dramatic, you know, like many other shows/stories. That or you'd rather have the trailer ends in a few seconds.

Bullshitter possibility: Looks like it's Blood Magic and Hawke is hesitating to use it.
 
thefil said:
The fact that he's using blood magic makes me think that Hawke is a jack of all trades, and we will not be picking a class (or at least not as specialized as DA:O).
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Don't spread confusion, classes are still in.
Goddamn, some people are just...urgh! Pre order cancelling be cause of a CG trailer? It's DA1 redux.:lol
 
Man, the hate is at epic levels :lol .

I have DA:O ready to play (just clearing my backlog), can't wait. Love me some Bioware. And from what I've heard about the sequel (specifically the changes to the battle system) I'll dig that even more.

But yeah, those screens look seriously lame. Who chose those?
 
CG trailer looked cool until those "portals for ripping guys arms off" appeared. The screenshots are still ugly as ever, but I'm remaining optimistic for now...
 
That's what gets me. It's one thing for your game to look horrible, but to keep putting out screens that convey the hideousness to such an extent is strange and rare. :lol

I guess we should be giving them props for not going the bullshot route, as so many other devs/publishers do.

Having said that, they probably should have.
 
CG trailers are pointless. Screenshots still look like crap and for some mysterious reason DA2 still look worse than the first one.
 
I don't really understand the point of secrecy in the video game business.. what harm can be done by posting more screen shots? and the video game "journalists" will spew positive previews if it means they can continue on previewing future games.. Example Mafia 2.. YEARS of previewing the games on ALL versions and they never did say that grass, pools of blood or horrible frame rates were a problem until the demo was released.


Oh.. and Dragon Age is awesome, i really enjoyed the first, i hope they don't screw this game.
 
Nirolak said:
There's no secret/exclusive organization you join this time. The part where you come from a relatively minor position is still there though.
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The story starts with Hawke leaving his small village in search of a grand adventure. Holy crap, Bioware is making a JRPG
 
As long as tactical view is still in, I'm good - and if they actually enable you to freely move the camera instead of being stuck to the character you're controlling, even fucking better. :D
 
Zeliard said:
Heh. Knew it.

Remember when a DA2 dev went on the Bioware forum and tried to defend the new camera, and when he was criticized by others and I for his transparent doublespeak, some people were like "but he doesn't work in PR he'd have no reason to be deceitful!"?



We're not going to be getting any DA:O-style overhead camera. That much is clear at this point.
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Are you kidding? The post you quoted is citing the dev you quoted. They both say exactly the same thing. No overhead, but a different camera mode not tied to party members. It's not deceit.
 
miladesn said:
http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gt-pop-block-dragon-age-2/703595

Official twitter says that this is an extended Director's cut of "Destiny" trailer with added info pop-up, can't watch it myself right now.
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The extended scenes are ruined by the god awful pop-up video style blood splatters along with the intermittent pauses and zoomed in closeups...

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Killthee said:
The extended scenes are ruined by the god awful pop-up video style blood splatters along with the intermittent pauses and zoomed in closeups...
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I have to say I didn't realize that was a Qunari attacking Hawke, so the "director's cut" has some uses. :lol Are Qunari related to ogres or it it just lazy art design?

Still going to buy day one. Loved the writing in the first game.
 
luxarific said:
I have to say I didn't realize that was a Qunari attacking Hawke, so the "director's cut" has some uses. :lol Are Qunari related to ogres or it it just lazy art design?

Still going to buy day one. Loved the writing in the first game.
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If I'm not mistaken, ogres are what Qunari broodmothers shit out.
 
luxarific said:
I have to say I didn't realize that was a Qunari attacking Hawke, so the "director's cut" has some uses. :lol Are Qunari related to ogres or it it just lazy art design?

Still going to buy day one. Loved the writing in the first game.
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Yes, ogres are the darkspawn created from Qunari broodmothers.
 
Nice trailer, I liked the music, but what is the deal with his abilities? He's an apostate mage and a warrior? Is that it?

luxarific said:
I have to say I didn't realize that was a Qunari attacking Hawke, so the "director's cut" has some uses. :lol Are Qunari related to ogres or it it just lazy art design?
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Ogres are the Qunari Darkspawn just like Genlocks are Dwarves and Hurlocks are Humans and Shrieks are Elves.
 
Count of Monte Sawed-Off said:
If I'm not mistaken, ogres are what Qunari broodmothers shit out.
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Thanks for the info, guys - this was honestly news to me. And here I thought I was pretty well read up on everything DA-related.

Criticism of art design withdrawn (piles of crap-like dirt notwithstanding :lol).
 
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