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Alecs27 said:
From a fighting game standpoint I think it's the best choice, with the whole absorption, barrier and all that jazz. Even his size is very distinctive.
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Have you seen this fucking design. This is bad in every aspect.

If you need some energy absorption character then Gero or 20 would be a better choice (but then again I hate 20 so Gero would be my only choice).

For GT a Omega Shenron would be a better choice with his Dragon thunder and minus energy ball.

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Alecs27 said:
I don't like Super C17 either, but in a fighting game he can be interesting. Baby and Omega are imho pretty basic.
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If you don't like him why even include him. The energy absorption would be difficult to implement and 17 has the barrier from screenshots. Also popularity is pretty important for a character and I don't know anyone who would take Super 17 over anyone else.
 
bubumiao said:
How likely is this?
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Honestly have no idea, but as far as GT representation goes, this is the only character that has a chance as far as I'm concerned.

Unspeakable Evil said:
Remind me did SS4 Goku or Vegeta do something unique that regular Goku or Vegeta didn't do?
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Just the Dragon Fist and for Goku really, forgot what Vegeta has. Goku also has 10x Kamehameha, but like... that really doesn't count.

Lmao, I'm trying to rack my head to remember what SSJ4 brings to the table other than its design, honestly thought it'd be more than that.
 
TeamLeftMatch said:
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Have you seen this fucking design. This is bad in every aspect.

If you need some energy absorption character then Gero or 20 would be a better choice (but then again I hate 20 so Gero would be my only choice).

For GT a Omega Shenron would be a better choice with his Dragon thunder and minus energy ball.
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I hate Omega Shenron T.T I like Suu Shenron the most among the dragons.
Do you really want Gero or 19 rather than Super 17? He isn't all that memorable, but at least he's more interesting than 20/19.
 
Naudyboy16 said:
Then with that being said, where in the power gamma does Ssj3 even fit!!!? Beerus tossed him around with it, yet it requires more energy to use then SSJB.
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I just think the form sucks in general. It's more powerful than Super Saiyan 1 and 2, but Goku opts to use Super Saiyan 2 because the unstableness of the form just makes it not worth using.

Super Saiyan Blue drains stamina, but I'm guessing the Godly aspect of it makes the form more well-rounded than Super Saiyan 3.

LotusHD said:
Lmao, I'm trying to rack my head to remember what SSJ4 brings to the table other than its design, honestly thought it'd be more than that.
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Was going to say Vegeta acquired the Final Shine Attack in Super Saiyan 4 before realizing he used it well beforehand. Lol.
 
TeamLeftMatch said:
If you don't like him why even include him. The energy absorption would be difficult to implement and 17 has the barrier from screenshots. Also popularity is pretty important for a character and I don't know anyone who would take Super 17 over anyone else.
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I dunno I think he's the only decent fighter from GT, other than Gogeta or Suu. I also think that his design isn't that bad if you think of him as a brand new character instead of a fusion between two C17 (lol GT)
 
Alecs27 said:
I hate Omega Shenron T.T I like Suu Shenron the most among the dragons.
Do you really want Gero or 19 rather than Super 17? He isn't all that memorable, but at least he's more interesting than 20/19.
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I would take Gero over Super 17 any day. Gero would have a better moveset anyway. Gero could use eye lasers, pierce a hole right through you, absorb energy, and do that grab thing he did against Piccolo.

Then again I wouldn't want any more androids aside from Super's 17 as DLC.
 
Alecs27 said:
I dunno I think he's the only decent fighter from GT, other than Gogeta or Suu. I also think that his design isn't that bad if you think of him as a brand new character instead of a fusion between two C17 (lol GT)
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You know we can't do that.

TeamLeftMatch said:
I would take Gero over Super 17 any day. Gero would have a better moveset anyway. Gero could use eye lasers, pierce a hole right through you, absorb energy, and do that grab thing he did against Piccolo.

Then again I wouldn't want any more androids aside from Super's 17 as DLC.
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True, they made 16, a character seldom thought about look cool (Well, not that he was never cool, but you know what I mean), they could make Gero look flashy enough I guess.
 
QisTopTier said:
Please no super 17 what a shitty way to ruin a character

If you are gonna do a villain from GT do Omega Shenron or Baby Vegeta
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This is the correct answer.

On that note, I still laugh at how Omega Shenron was such a major part of EB's original story mode...but the game himself was just a Z-assist!
 
Whenever they try to squeeze in GT chars it's always Omega Shenron and SSJ4 Gogeta.

I wouldn't mind Omega tbh. Big body and I like his design so I'd be cool with him.
 
Alecs27 said:
I dunno I think he's the only decent fighter from GT, other than Gogeta or Suu. I also think that his design isn't that bad if you think of him as a brand new character instead of a fusion between two C17 (lol GT)
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That's more of a problem with GT being the Goku show than anything else. I could ignore the fact that super 17 is a fusion of 2 17s (which makes no goddam sense) but the design still bad. Like a lot of GT, the designs are stuck in the 90s and still pretty bad (Let's give Vegeta some jeans and cut his hair with a mustache because Fuck it, why not. Also let's give the SSJ4 mullets because the 90s said so).
 
LotusHD said:
You know we can't do that.



True, they made 16, a character seldom thought about look cool (Well, not that he was never cool, but you know what I mean), they could make Gero look flashy enough I guess.
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Gero is too crappy, 19 too, are you guys serious? Even Toriyama designed them to be uglier than 16,17 and 18. At least 16 was always an interesting character with is whole attitude and design.
 
Alecs27 said:
Gero is too crappy, 19 too, are you guys serious? Even Toriyama designed them to be uglier than 16,17 and 18. At least 16 was always an interesting character with is whole attitude and design.
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Not like I want them, I'd just choose them over Super 17.
 
TeamLeftMatch said:
That's more of a problem with GT being the Goku show than anything else. I could ignore the fact that super 17 is a fusion of 2 17s (which makes no goddam sense) but the design still bad. Like a lot of GT, the designs are stuck in the 90s and still pretty bad (Let's give Vegeta some jeans and cut his hair with a mustache because Fuck it, why not. Also let's give the SSJ4 mullets because the 90s said so).
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GT is indeed a product of its era, even the palette was pretty different and unique for DB.
Vegeta in jeans looked good tho
 
Doctrine Dark said:
Goku said it after he he lost all of his power fighting Kid Boo.
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Well I'll be, you learn (or are reminded of) something every day. It makes it interesting that he went SSJ3 when he was sparring with Beerus. He didn't last long anyways, but it makes you wonder what his long game was if he hadn't gotten knocked out in short order.
 
bumpkin said:
Well I'll be, you learn (or are reminded of) something every day. It makes it interesting that he went SSJ3 when he was sparring with Beerus. He didn't last long anyways, but it makes you wonder what his long game was if he hadn't gotten knocked out in short order.
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Goku seemed to think Beers would be overwhelmed after seeing his Super Saiyan 3 power, so he probably assumed the match wouldn't last too long. I'd chalk that up to Goku not being able to gauge Beers' power...since he couldn't sense a God back then.
 
Eh if we're getting anything from GT I think it's going to be SSJ4 Gogeta or Omega Shenron, easily. Those are the most likely picks. I would love it if both were in but that's just me personally.
 
Big One said:
That's never really suggested to be permanent though, so there's nothing out of place to suggest he couldn't train to better utilize SSJ3 like he somewhat does in Super.
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Is there anything implying he's worked on this weakness in Super? Because that doesn't sound like something that can be improved.

The form is simply flawed. It cuts Gotenks' Fusion down to 5 mins and Goku can barely use the form for an extended period of time. Outside of using it to attack Beers and show off to Trunks, it's ignored entirely.
 
Too bad that we can't test that until maybe the beta. To have an "Anti-Assist" sounds pretty scary to deal with (unless if that was indeed a taunt).

Literally, every time we look at this game, it adds something special that makes us rethink how we would set up our teams.
 
bumpkin said:
Well I'll be, you learn (or are reminded of) something every day. It makes it interesting that he went SSJ3 when he was sparring with Beerus. He didn't last long anyways, but it makes you wonder what his long game was if he hadn't gotten knocked out in short order.
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I too thought it was because he didn't have any energy left against Buu, and that's why he was trying but couldn't muster. Cause he did go SSJ3 versus kid Buu for a while and was able to keep up with Kid Buu before he was completely exhausted and let Vegeta fight.

I personally love SSJ3 which is why I hate that it's so over looked. We got it so briefly during that saga and now it's completely overshadowed by a crappy new transformation.

During our hay day, Ssj3 was the talk for us fans.
 
Naudyboy16 said:
I too thought it was because he didn't have any energy left against Buu, and that's why he was trying but couldn't muster. Cause he did go SSJ3 versus kid Buu for a while and was able to keep up with Kid Buu before he was completely exhausted and let Vegeta fight.

I personally love SSJ3 which is why I hate that it's so over looked. We got it so briefly during that saga and now it's completely overshadowed by a crappy new transformation.

During our hay day, Ssj3 was the talk for us fans.
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Even if SSB didn't exist, SSJ3 would still be obsolete.
 
Neoxon said:
"Actually, Trunks, you don't have to share at all. You two seem like you're having fun, so I'd hate to have to interrupt. But if any of you decide to jump in and help Daddy's Boy over there, I will personally introduce you to the ground. And trust me, your relationship will be intimate."
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Yeah, not exactly in a rush to help out Vegeta. I mean, maybe if it were Goku...

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Actually that is a good point. If 17 being an anti-assist work how we might think it works, would you even be able to tag out? I mean, you probably will, but that could mean that 17 takes a potshot at the person coming in too perhaps.

Android 16
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Watch as 16 blows up the Space Duck
 
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