Lifejumper
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13 characters announced in two months. 20 + characters is looking likely.
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Dragon Ball FighterZ - Characters, Specials, and Stages Discussion
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Crazy Diamond
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TGS around the corner, they'll announce a couple more there for sure.
maybe jump festa too?
Lifejumper
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Yeah PGW in October too.
I'd honestly expect Jump to be the last major info dump before release.
Never thought I hear someone say this, for me more characters is always better.
Do you play very many fighting games?
Crazy Diamond
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Spinosaurus
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24 is a good number. We already know half the roster if thats the size though lol.
Host Samurai
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At least they made Buu tall. I hate how inconsistent his height has been. He's suppose to be massive in height but some games have him shorter than Mr Satan.
I agree. 24 characters is way too low for a 3v3 roster. Characters will be played out fast.
voodoopanda
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I'm expecting 21-24 personally, leaning more towards 24 when including SSB Goku & SSB Vegeta as separate characters.
So we have 13 characters so far, feel like Ult Gohan, Gotenks, Kid Buu and Beerus are practically guaranteed, which makes for 17 characters. Throw in Hit & Black for Super representation, that's 19. Broly to make it an even 20 since he's so popular and shows up in so many games. Those characters all feel very likely, even if some might be DLC like the Super characters.
Past those 20, I don't know who to expect. So basically 4 more oddball characters (Videl? Nappa? Bardock? Ginyu? Mr Satan?) and that's what I imagine the roster will be.
So we have 13 characters so far, feel like Ult Gohan, Gotenks, Kid Buu and Beerus are practically guaranteed, which makes for 17 characters. Throw in Hit & Black for Super representation, that's 19. Broly to make it an even 20 since he's so popular and shows up in so many games. Those characters all feel very likely, even if some might be DLC like the Super characters.
Past those 20, I don't know who to expect. So basically 4 more oddball characters (Videl? Nappa? Bardock? Ginyu? Mr Satan?) and that's what I imagine the roster will be.
Romars202129
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I wanted the roster to be bigger because I thought my character would get in.
Now that I know he's out, At this point, I'm pretty sure the other ones I really care about are locks so I don't really care. Less tech I have to remember if its low
*shrug
Now that I know he's out, At this point, I'm pretty sure the other ones I really care about are locks so I don't really care. Less tech I have to remember if its low
*shrug
NipplesAndToes23
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Launch.
I'm the opposite. Characters that can't fight in the series will be a joy to play and watch if they implement them properly. Everything doesn't have to be canon and its a fighting game afterall... They always can create new move sets based on what we know about them already and expand it from there.
Im feeling a Roshi inclusion.
I just want fun, unique playstyles, which is something they seem to be nailing so far.
A Bulma with capsule-based traps, use of vehicles or mechs would be awesome. Same with playable Videl where Mr. Satan or Great Saiyaman jump in to assist.
Also I did my analysis of the Gamescom trailer! Now it's time to watch like 3 hours of actual footage of the demo and make a bunch of Anime comparison videos
A Bulma with capsule-based traps, use of vehicles or mechs would be awesome. Same with playable Videl where Mr. Satan or Great Saiyaman jump in to assist.
Also I did my analysis of the Gamescom trailer! Now it's time to watch like 3 hours of actual footage of the demo and make a bunch of Anime comparison videos
Crazy Diamond
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Bulma would be amazing. Her model looks really good. I hope they use her Mad Max outfit if she is playable.
I really hope that's the one thing they do deliver on. DBZ games have been notorious for having a ton of characters who play the same, so I would love to have a lot of different choices. Something akin to Overwatch but maybe not as drastic.I just want fun, unique playstyles, which is something they seem to be nailing so far.
A Bulma with capsule-based traps, use of vehicles or mechs would be awesome. Same with playable Videl where Mr. Satan or Great Saiyaman jump in to assist.
Also I did my analysis of the Gamescom trailer! Now it's time to watch like 3 hours of actual footage of the demo and make a bunch of Anime comparison videos
100% what I've been saying. Those initial 20 are pretty much locks but anything beyond that you gotta really think.
NoctisVsStar
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Keep it canon, don't want no Satan with a jet pack bs.
Spinosaurus
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He has a 50% damage combo for two bars, huh? That's pretty good since it looks pretty simple.
I know I've seen that he can teleport after one of his command grabs to continue the combo. I can't wait to lab him. EDIT: Oh yeah, he does that in the very next combo in that video lol.
Here's my problem with Bulma: It isn't to say that I disapprove her being added in, but it is more specific to the idea that had we have never really seen her do much in terms of actual fighting (unless if you count punching idiots and perverts over the head). If we were to look at all other fighters up to this point, everything they do is a reference to something they have done in the manga, anime, (anime movie,) or game (as we saw in a few small cases with a few characters). Bulma has not been playable in any of those cases.
Hell, the Pilaf Gang would stand a better chance of getting into the roster if that were the case since we at least saw them in action.
With that said, could ASW decide to give Bulma a whole brand new move set where she could be in a mech or something so that she could fight? Possibly. But if that were the case, why not just make Jaco a playable character and then you have Bulma be his assist? It would make sense and it would let Jaco get his time to shine (although I'm still holding off on Arale also getting in just for the sake of a random "Faust-like" character to be added in).
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As for the roster size, 24 should do the trick just fine. We already have the 11 characters right now and the two Blues to bring it up to 13. From there, you can probably think of at least 11 more Dragon Ball characters that could fill up the rest of the roster and people probably would be happy with that. And 21 isn't really "Too Small" either since you had Skull girls launch their game that can let you have a team of three set up when they only had under ten characters at launch.
So basically what you're saying is that you don't want Mr. Satan in the roster. Without some kind of jetpack, you would either make playing as Mr. Satan next to impossible (since he wouldn't be able to do the simplest of mechanics in game like the dust attack or fly in if tagged in unless he just runs in slowly), or you are just purposely want a character that would feel half done in comparison to the rest of the cast (which since this is Mr. Satan is kind of understandable).
Hell, the Pilaf Gang would stand a better chance of getting into the roster if that were the case since we at least saw them in action.
With that said, could ASW decide to give Bulma a whole brand new move set where she could be in a mech or something so that she could fight? Possibly. But if that were the case, why not just make Jaco a playable character and then you have Bulma be his assist? It would make sense and it would let Jaco get his time to shine (although I'm still holding off on Arale also getting in just for the sake of a random "Faust-like" character to be added in).
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As for the roster size, 24 should do the trick just fine. We already have the 11 characters right now and the two Blues to bring it up to 13. From there, you can probably think of at least 11 more Dragon Ball characters that could fill up the rest of the roster and people probably would be happy with that. And 21 isn't really "Too Small" either since you had Skull girls launch their game that can let you have a team of three set up when they only had under ten characters at launch.
So basically what you're saying is that you don't want Mr. Satan in the roster. Without some kind of jetpack, you would either make playing as Mr. Satan next to impossible (since he wouldn't be able to do the simplest of mechanics in game like the dust attack or fly in if tagged in unless he just runs in slowly), or you are just purposely want a character that would feel half done in comparison to the rest of the cast (which since this is Mr. Satan is kind of understandable).
If we keep things canon then half of the roster shouldn't win any fights
NoctisVsStar
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They don't mean power level bs, is characters with the arsenal to compete with beam fights and at the bare minimum fly.. that's my take on it. Videl for instance would Saiyaman Gohan into her moveset to be able to fight.
Uh... no.
You'd prefer like 40 in a 3v3 format for the same-ish reason you want like 25+ total characters in a 1v1 game. You need to promote variety from the start and balance the game around that, because you want a healthy stream of different match-ups both online and in competitive play. Team based fighters need to support creativity and exploration otherwise a handful of popular shells dominate the game from the start, and that gets old fast. It's also the nature of these games that characters are FAR less involved than 1v1 fighters and require much less time to learn.
Marvel 3 launched with 36 characters with 3 assists each. Ultimate was out like 8 months later and buffed the roster to 50. People are rightly annoyed that MVCI, a 2v2 fighter, may have only 30 at launch. SFxT was a 2v2 fighter and had 38 characters.
24 characters is minuscule, and homogeneity has to be a concern.
Spinosaurus
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Get rid of Ginyu and Roshi for Broly and Yamcha and that's who I'm expecting.
At this point, I'm not too sure about Broly, at least not on Day 1. I could see the devs wanting to keep the story limited to canon characters (DB/DBZ/DBS). Plus Broly would be an easy sell as DLC in the eyes of Bamco.
klabautermann
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Beerus, Gotenks, Vegito, Ulimate Gohan, Kid Buu, and (maybe) Broly are the only characters I would be willing to bet money on being included. Anyone else is a toss up imo.
Aaronrules380
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I definitely wouldn't put money on Vegito
I'd only really put money on 4/5 of who you mentioned (I'd ditch Vegito).
But at the same time, expecting ASW to do that many characters on Day 1 from scratch is insane, especially when you factor in the amount of work they put in for just one character. 16-24 is probably the sweet spot for Day 1.
New vid from Max: Android 16 Breakdown
The last combo is beautiful.
The last combo is beautiful.
Well, yeah.
The method ArcSys has used to animate Guilty Gear and Dragon FighterZ is crazy involved and takes a huge amount of time. There's no great way for them to get the roster to where it needs to be, but all the same, it's going to hurt the game.
Maybe this should have been 2v2 instead. Particularly with this scaling.
I say
- Mystic/Ultimate Gohan
- Beerus
- Hit
- Goku Black
- Kid Buu
- Tien
- Gotenks
- Broly
- Nappa
- Ginyu
- Bardock
Spinosaurus
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If 17 couldn't get in then I doubt the ToP means anything for Roshi's chances lol.
Lifejumper
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50 characters? Lmao this shit aint xenoverse.
I'm honestly shocked people think Bardock is cool. He's edgy Goku template #3 or #4
I said 50 initially, because that's how many MvC2 and Ultimate Marvel 3 wound up having, but edited it to a smaller number to avoid the inevitable responses about games not launching with that many.
Point was these games are only truly healthy at large character pools, especially after we break down characters into "roles". If team shells wind up being Point Assist Anchor or Battery Point Assist or whatever, we're likely to find ourselves with fewer than a dozen choices for any particular role. That's not even accounting for characters falling out due to tier lists in the short term.
His TV special was really cool, so I get why people like him.
But he brings nothing to the game.
I'd rather he not be in the game myself, but I wouldn't be surprised if he got in. But by virtue by my recent doubts about Broly, I could also see Bardock being DLC. It's just the fact that they're using the same art cards that included Bardock are making me think that he could be Day 1.