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Dragon Ball Super |OT2| June 12: Judgment Day
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Ugh please no.
The great stuff about manga is that eventually it ends. I feel that manga companies are slowly pushing for a model more like american comics, with the eternalizing of stuff like Naruto, which is receiving a Boruto manga, which is neither written nor drawn by Kishimoto, the infinite amount of fairy tail spin offs that they keep trying to push, and some series that get periodic revivals (mazinger z for example).
Of course DBS is also an example of this, but Toriyama's involvement has prevented some of the moost egregious tone changes. Altho it predates DBS itself, the idea of making Beerus a more "traditional" god of destruction smacks of the american situation where the best artists the most they can aspire to is to be let to play with the big toys of marvel and dc, and their own stuff goes largely ignored.
Jason's Ultimatum
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Man, thinking about the one Gaffer who said Vegeta should've gone SSJ2 when trunks was on the brink of death is a copout. Would've been the greatest scene ever.
Unknown One
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I think you have to meet a power requirement to even unlock the transformation. Vegeta was clearly too weak to transform at the time. Vegeta literally crapped his pants when Gohan turned SSJ1 for Christ sakes.
Reminder that the Toyotaro manga is where Goku says that Gohan was a "little piece of shit" (or whatever the translation was) when Goku was told Gohan was at a conference; meanwhile, Anime DBS Goku just reacts way more relaxed when Gohan tells him he can't go to the Beerus/Champa tourney, which is much more in line with how Goku treated Gohan during the Buu arc.
I know that we all love to laugh about how Goku is a terrible father, but in canon he is actually p understanding of Gohan.
I know that we all love to laugh about how Goku is a terrible father, but in canon he is actually p understanding of Gohan.
Bacon_Boss
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Hopefully Universe 7/6 swap happens and earth goes into a state of emergency of some kind.
Would love for Piccolo to take Krillin Tien and Yamcha into the woods and bring them back to a functional level of strength. 18 and 17 becoming relevant again would be awesome. I guess Videl's done what with being chichi 2.0 now.
Would love for Piccolo to take Krillin Tien and Yamcha into the woods and bring them back to a functional level of strength. 18 and 17 becoming relevant again would be awesome. I guess Videl's done what with being chichi 2.0 now.
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ArchedThunder
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lolwut
Finally all the jobber scrubs from the other universe are out of the way. The gall of Champa to bring in a non SS Saiyan into a tournament... AYY LMAO!
The final boss looks god damn strong though. Vegeta about to get worked and jobbed out for the Goku to finally come in and win all according to Keikaku.
The final boss looks god damn strong though. Vegeta about to get worked and jobbed out for the Goku to finally come in and win all according to Keikaku.
Again, the bolded is wrong. GT was bad because the wrong people were in charge of it, not because they can't produce a weekly show with no manga counterpart.
You could... you know... plan things out in advance? Like every other cartoon on earth?
And I'm not saying DROP TORIYAMA but the day will come when Toriyama is no longer involved with the series, and we're going to HAVE to move on. Dragon Ball will continue to exist without Toriyama.
True, but you can get this idea out of your head when it comes to Dragon Ball. It will never end. It's too huge to end.
Unknown One
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Looks like shit.
Now this is a real tournament fight. DBS have a bunch of kiddy fights in comparison.
https://youtu.be/fs08CHmZUos?t=10m4s
Blackleg-sanji1
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God I hope oda ends one piece in a way that this can't happen.
Makes me wonder if they'll try and incorporate Time Patrol for real.
One Piece's world is so fucking huge and well developed that they can write stories in it forever, even if it doesn't specifically follow Luffy and his crew.
ArchedThunder
Banned
You're out of your damn mind if you think the SSJ Cabba fight looks like shit.
Toriyama will probably ignore all the video game stuff if it is Future Trunks.
Wonder how Dimps would react.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Ugh! It won't be by oda that's for sure let it die. Same for db after super
The best choreographed fight is clearly the early Goku vs Vegeta during the saiyan saga (I've got no love for SSJ2 Goku vs Majin Vegeta. It looks pretty, but it is mostly both of them going at it like brutes).
The saiyan saga is a much more three dimensional fight, starting with Vegeta standing on a high rock looking down on Goku, and all the way through until Goku finally gets pwned.
And of course the greatest moment is that kaiohken powered kick that always gets posted
GOD it's sooo gooood in how it shows these guys are fighting by flying around at incredible speeds they themselves cannot keep up.
The saiyan saga is a much more three dimensional fight, starting with Vegeta standing on a high rock looking down on Goku, and all the way through until Goku finally gets pwned.
And of course the greatest moment is that kaiohken powered kick that always gets posted
GOD it's sooo gooood in how it shows these guys are fighting by flying around at incredible speeds they themselves cannot keep up.
pauloshinobi
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Please not Future Trunks again. Create original characters, use Gohan, Piccolo and the Earthlings. Bringing Future Trunks would be just they assuming that they can't write something nice anymore, let's just go full fanfic mode.
I really couldn't be impressed with last episode fight, I mean even freakin Medabots had better fight choreography and animation. (Although the art is much simpler, this helps a lot)
Dude, characters like Ben 10 and almost every action oriented cartoon produced in the last 10 or 15 years contradicts all of your theory.
I really couldn't be impressed with last episode fight, I mean even freakin Medabots had better fight choreography and animation. (Although the art is much simpler, this helps a lot)
Dude, characters like Ben 10 and almost every action oriented cartoon produced in the last 10 or 15 years contradicts all of your theory.
zeioIIDX
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Everyone thinks it will be Future Trunks making a return but I don't really know...That seems a bit boring. I'm thinking maybe it will be Future Gohan when he was badass and had one arm and trained Trunks. Especially since current Gohan is whipped, maybe his future self will show up and knock some sense into him and take over training for Piccolo lol.
Unknown One
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Having a higher standard does not make me crazy, especially when the older series have better quality fights by a longshot.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Bring in time patrol goten along with trunks and I'll take it
Linkstrikesback
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Unless finding one piece causing a worldwide nuclear explosion killing everybody, you can guarantee they won't let one piece end ever.
Much better.
Icyflamez96
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That was a bad translation. He just says " -_- that guy!"
It's still p different from what happens in the anime tho.
AlimNassor
Banned
I really don't want Beerus or Whis to be beaten or even surpassed. We need final bosses that can't be beat. That opponent that is simply better then you and will always remain better.
The best thing about Super was introducing us to Beerus/Whis/Champ and Vados. They are the best characters Toriyama has ever written. They play off the cast and each other so damn well. Beerus especially when one moment he's joking around and the next Goku and Vegeta are running for their lives from him or Champa and his ego issues.
The best thing about Super was introducing us to Beerus/Whis/Champ and Vados. They are the best characters Toriyama has ever written. They play off the cast and each other so damn well. Beerus especially when one moment he's joking around and the next Goku and Vegeta are running for their lives from him or Champa and his ego issues.
The manga scanlations are terrible on so many levels. Do not rely on them even for the gist of a statement.
Goku is very blunt with his points. There's not much to read into him saying anything about Gohan's talent or efforts, either in the anime or the manga. He's not making a personal judgement call there. He's just telling it like it is, because he's Goku, and the fight is the important thing. Furthermore, Toyotaro using dialog to move things along is ALSO something that shouldn't be read into much.
Goku is very blunt with his points. There's not much to read into him saying anything about Gohan's talent or efforts, either in the anime or the manga. He's not making a personal judgement call there. He's just telling it like it is, because he's Goku, and the fight is the important thing. Furthermore, Toyotaro using dialog to move things along is ALSO something that shouldn't be read into much.
Icyflamez96
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The whole scene/setup is pretty different. To me it makes more sense that Goku might be more shocked and upset when hearing the news that Gohan wouldn't be showing up in the manga.
The anime had Gohan directly talking to Goku, eager to go fight, but then realizing he had commitments to uphold.
The anime had Gohan directly talking to Goku, eager to go fight, but then realizing he had commitments to uphold.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Haters gonna hate goten is great
Always fusing with his mate
Gotenks is stronger than gohan that's a fact
Blowing up foes with his ghost kamikaze attack
...bars
ArchedThunder
Banned
DiipuSurotu
Banned
Toriyama please.
You can see how they got the idea for GT here. "If Goku is getting old and Gohan didn't work out as the main character, then surely the only solution is to turn Goku into a kid. It's not like we have other characters in the new generation or anything."
Blackleg-sanji1
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They should take ideas from that MMO and incorporate it into Super. The Time Patrol doesn't conflict with anything in the manga or current series, and would be simple enough to explain why Trunks is involved with them.
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Is it safe to assume Cabba = Uni 6 Gohan
Sorry bro, but Future Trunks coming back pretty much means Goten is never gonna be a thing. Ever.
ArchedThunder
Banned
If it is Future Trunks I hope he either has long hair or a new hair style.
Xenoverse 2 tie in cash grab incoming bruh.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I highly doubt anything in Super will actually tie directly into Xenoverse. If it does that'd be cool and very unexpected of Toriyama, but I just don't see it happening.
What I see being more likely is that Future Trunks shows up in Super and Xenoverse 2 has to explain that while both the Super Future Trunks and Time Patrol Future Trunks are Future Trunks they are different from time travel splitting shenanigans.
Icyflamez96
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what if it's future goten
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Where's my Boss Rabbit Moon Adventures spin off
Welfare
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Makes sense.
It was coming anyway, so why not have even stronger connections to the now running show?
Time Patrol Trunks was actually invented by Toriyama, that came up with his back story for dragon ball online, he said it was fitting to have Trunks as a time agent, and the story of Xenoverse was submitted to and approved by him too, so if he brings him back, he knows what Trunks is up to.
Blackleg-sanji1
Banned
Thank you thank you
Piku_Ringo
Banned
Do you think if Future Trunks really is returning as the speculation suggests, do you think they'll use the SDBs to wish back everyone who died in his timeline?
Icyflamez96
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future champa
If that was Toriyama's idea, I wouldn't mind seeing it in Super. I still think bringing back Future Trunks would feel like cheap fan service, but if they can find a good way to do it, then go for it.
ArchedThunder
Banned
I did this out of curiosity (Not the whole picture, just color editing)
White hair actually meshes really well with Vegeta's current outfit, I wonder if Toriyama had designed this outfit when he was going to use White hair.
White hair actually meshes really well with Vegeta's current outfit, I wonder if Toriyama had designed this outfit when he was going to use White hair.
pauloshinobi
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Dragon Ball AF went with white haired SSJ before it was cool.
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