• Hey Guest. Check out your NeoGAF Wrapped 2025 results here!

Dragon Ball Super |OT2| June 12: Judgment Day

Status
Not open for further replies.
Thinking we might see that Super news around 9AM JST... so in about 4 hours.
Next arc synopsis:
We learn that planet salda of universe 6 is facing a crisis who is this evil threat attempting to wipe out the saiyans of universe 6? Learning this news from whis and beerus vegeta fills obligated to help out his fellow saiyans itching for a fight goku tags along as well with goten and trunks being stowaways. But wait there seems to be one more person aboard who can it be?

...let me dream
 
Well, if we don't get Toriyama designs for the upcoming "villain", it's going to be pretty clear that this story is Toei original.
 
Next arc synopsis:
We learn that planet salda of universe 6 is facing a crisis who is this evil threat attempting to wipe out the saiyans of universe 6? Learning this news from whis and beerus vegeta fills obligated to help out his fellow saiyans itching for a fight goku tags along as well with goten and trunks being stowaways. But wait there seems to be one more person aboard who can it be?

...let me dream
JACO!


I find it interesting that rather than Goten having shrunk last episode, we could be seeing Trunks finally having his growth spurt.
There was a shot of Trunks next to Chichi and he was almost as tall as her.
He was about 1 head shorter than her.
 
Funniest DB episode I've ever seen. Really good animation and gags. Everything worked out perfectly. Whoever wrote this episode should definitely write more.
 
fucking Yamcha, best thing he's done since....................yeah best thing he's done

I love how Goku asks Piccolo how to take care of Pan
 
Next arc synopsis:
We learn that planet salda of universe 6 is facing a crisis who is this evil threat attempting to wipe out the saiyans of universe 6? Learning this news from whis and beerus vegeta fills obligated to help out his fellow saiyans itching for a fight goku tags along as well with goten and trunks being stowaways. But wait there seems to be one more person aboard who can it be?

...let me dream

Future Trunks
 
I find it interesting that rather than Goten having shrunk last episode, we could be seeing Trunks finally having his growth spurt.

No.

Trunks was always much taller than Goten in Super.

They are BOTH standing.

64c744ecbd5946dc58d7c8da16ac7a91.png


Episode 1.

be5e58c2bec965cbf2d1b25ca60db80c.png


a7e2fa5509dd29931613b242f82d8aa6.png


Compare where their shoulders are...
 
No.

Trunks was always much taller than Goten in Super.

They are BOTH standing.

64c744ecbd5946dc58d7c8da16ac7a91.png


Episode 1.

be5e58c2bec965cbf2d1b25ca60db80c.png


a7e2fa5509dd29931613b242f82d8aa6.png


Compare where their shoulders are...

BTW, the new eyecatch removed Gohan and put Goten instead. It keeps getting hilarious.

Gohan has never been in the Goku eye catch, he always had his own with his family.
 
I don't know much of the original DB lore, but are Goten and Goku the same height when compared age wise? I know goku was a kid for a long time.
 
I don't know much of the original DB lore, but are Goten and Goku the same height when compared age wise? I know goku was a kid for a long time.

giphy.gif

Here is Goku standing next to Kid Goku in some Japanese only recap thingy.
Gohan grew more like a human though, which makes this whole thing kinda confusing.
 
I don't think Goten grew at all in the 5 years.

WRVpN57.jpg

It's been a long time since I've seen the original kid goku dragonball series, but according to wikia Goku had ~ the same height until the age of 16, where he went training for a long time and grew much taller in that time.

Goku returns three years later at the age of 19 (considered himself 18), to meet up with his friends and join the tournament and grown into a young man that no one recognizes
 
Goku had a very minor growth between the first tournament to the 2nd tournament. Krillin said he grew and was hoping that he was taller than Goku. It's probably the artstyle though.
 
But Trunks had his growth spurt since episode 1.

May I ask what's new ?

DBZ

4731617-0189790310-trunk.png


DBS

64c744ecbd5946dc58d7c8da16ac7a91.png

No Goten got shorter, his proportions here look taller compared to DBS. They just fucked up when they drew him. His legs are atleast 3 times his torso length. In super they are barely 1.5 times longer than the torso.
 
No Goten got shorter, his proportions here look taller compared to DBS. They just fucked up when they drew him. His legs are atleast 3 times his torso length. In super they are barely 1.5 times longer than the torso.

Goten always looks stubby when wearing that outfit though, even in Z.
GDrN2Z2.png

6569397a88639f8cb7d0e01747567f3b.jpg
 
*cough *cough
tumblr_m931icmrro1r72ht7o9_r1_500_by_dbheroes-d8d0h23.gif

Man I haven't really watched through DBZ or these old DBZ movies in so long that looking at gifs where the kids are doing stuff like this seems like nothing more than fanfic. It just looks so out of character. Like seeing a battle damaged, yet fierce Puar and Pig guy get together for a joint attack.
 
Man I haven't really watched through DBZ or these old DBZ movies in so long that looking at gifs where the kids are doing stuff like this seems like nothing more than fanfic. It just looks so out of character. Like seeing a battle damaged, yet fierce Puar and Pig guy get together for a joint attack.

Well, that GIF is from a movie.
 
Man I haven't really watched through DBZ or these old DBZ movies in so long that looking at gifs where the kids are doing stuff like this seems like nothing more than fanfic. It just looks so out of character. Like seeing a battle damaged, yet fierce Puar and Pig guy get together for a joint attack.
I don't see why the entire premise of db was a kid doing stuff. Hell more than half of dbz gohan was a kid doing stuff. When first introduced these characters loved the idea of fighting until it took a turn for some odd reason.
 
I know, i'm just saying they've been nothing more than carefree non serious side characters for so long that it feels weird to imagine them in serious situations doing serious things.
 
I know, i'm just saying they've been nothing more than carefree non serious side characters for so long that it feels weird to imagine them in serious situations doing serious things.
O at this point most definitely I agree. It'll be hard to make them switch it up all of a sudden and I'm probably one of the few who even want it lol. They've been comedy their way too long. The buu saga at least made them relevant and comedy style characters.
 
I want to see them in some kind of serious scenario where they're doing stuff while they're still small, but that's probably too much to ask at this point. I bet they won't show them being involved in dire/serious situations until they hit that spurt.
 
giphy.gif

Here is Goku standing next to Kid Goku in some Japanese only recap thingy.
Gohan grew more like a human though, which makes this whole thing kinda confusing.

That's from that weird video/plastic toy phone combo.They use time travel as an excuse to visit random moments. They fight Cell at the end and he fucks off like some spiderman villain of the week
 
I want to see them in some kind of serious scenario where they're doing stuff while they're still small, but that's probably too much to ask at this point. I bet they won't show them being involved in dire/serious situations until they hit that spurt.
They need to go past end of Z I think for that to happen based on what guides say about them slacking off.
 
They need to go past end of Z I think for that to happen based on what guides say about them slacking off.

I don't think the guides really matter. The issue is that the last chapters of Z clearly establish in various scenes that they slacked. From Goku stating it directly to Goten clearly disliking being forced to train for the tournament and thinking that he has no chance against Buu.
 
They would have to drastically change the end of z for goten and trunks to do anything after the time skip. Which again still seems odd because they didn't seem like slackers before the end of z why they went that way who knows
 
They would have to drastically change the end of z for goten and trunks to do anything after the time skip. Which again still seems odd because they didn't seem like slackers before the end of z why they went that way who knows

I don't see why they have to keep the end of Z Cannon. If it's not convenient, they will drop that shit. Its not like Toriyama is known for thinking things though.
 
Goten was fucked over by his design being "kid goku".

Gohan had always his own design, even at the very start, but Goten didn't and the designs they gave him in the dbz epilogue and gt just look odd.
 
Why do these "filler" slice of life episodes get the best animation/quality?

They're generally decent, but we just had the two Goku vs Hit episodes which were clearly better than this one.

I don't see why they have to keep the end of Z Cannon. If it's not convenient, they will drop that shit. Its not like Toriyama is known for thinking things though.

The issue is that nothing of what they've said regarding the End of Z indicates any intention of dropping it. They might miss details and create contradictions (although so far the only real problem is Bulma's statement about not visiting in 5 years), but they seem to act like everything is still leading there.

If he thought things through, he should have made Super take place after end of Z.
Toriyama doesn't like how old Kuririn and Bulma look there. It's main reason they set BoGs in the "blank of 10 years". I can kind of see the point with Bulma, since her parts in BoGs and Super might look odd with her being middle aged, but Kuririn has hardly done anything, especially since Super's actual story started.
 
They would have to drastically change the end of z for goten and trunks to do anything after the time skip. Which again still seems odd because they didn't seem like slackers before the end of z why they went that way who knows
Not really, they could just say they decided to stop slacking, it's that simple. Hell, Goten could start training after being embarrassed by getting his ass beat by Pan.
 
It was always odd to me that at the dbz epilogue or gt, Bulma never gathered the dragon balls and asked to look younger. She is constantly complaining about how Vegeta and Goku look young.
 
For Bulma it's an easy fix. Even at the end of Z, she made a comment that maybe she should wish to get younger. I don't think it's a bad thing either. Look at master Roshi, that man is over 300 years old. Bulma is the only relevant character from DB other than Goku anyways.
 
Not really, they could just say they decided to stop slacking, it's that simple. Hell, Goten could start training after being embarrassed by getting his ass beat by Pan.

The epilogue is p clear that Goten doesn't really care much for training, and although his defeat at the hands of pan may have been humiliating, he still is only training cause Goku threatens him.

Dunno why there is this obsession with having people who don't like to fight to begin training again. The real problem is the people who liked fighting, like Ten, Yamsha and Krillin to be sidelined.
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Top Bottom