Yeah some of the drawing is off-model at times but there's others where it looks great.
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Dragon Ball Super |OT2| June 12: Judgment Day
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Yeah some of the drawing is off-model at times but there's others where it looks great.
DrunkShogun
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Haven't watched the new series yet but just want to know if any character have importance or is still the goku vegeta show. Seems like the show has progressed from what I've heard from friends.
That was because they sent half the staff to work on the one piece special, during ROF.
CherryWoodFuton
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Hit is such a baller. Coolest DB character since Future Trunks
He's like the Kobe Bryant circa 2007 of Champa's team carrying a bunch of scrubs to relevancy
He's like the Kobe Bryant circa 2007 of Champa's team carrying a bunch of scrubs to relevancy
It's still a Goku and Vegeta show. Vegeta is still jobbing, and Goku is still taking care of the major threats. The other characters don't do anything, except for the time cop or whatever his role is. And he only played a very minor role.
Piccolo has the best fight in the series so far, but it's a shame they cut it short to give Vegeta the spotlight.
LordOfChaos
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Good episode progress wise, which also made it frustrating though that the animation quality couldn't keep up during the Vegeta vs Hit fight at least.
I liked Hit, it's nice that an opponent seems fairly respectful, old and wise. He gave both U6ers plenty of chance to forfeit if they wanted to, and restrained himself in the offence against Vegeta just enough to knock him out.
Vegetas tactics...Yeah, pretty shitty. When he said "his weakness is weak attacks", I thought "finally, he's going to use a Ki blast that maybe the other guy can't return", but nope, a punch to catch him? That was like the Piccolo vs Frost fight again.
Speaking of Ki blasts...Still none in the preview. Why do they both seem intent on fighting him with fists? If his ability is warping time 0.1 seconds, could he avoid 1000 ki blasts in every direction as they're both capable of?
I liked Hit, it's nice that an opponent seems fairly respectful, old and wise. He gave both U6ers plenty of chance to forfeit if they wanted to, and restrained himself in the offence against Vegeta just enough to knock him out.
Vegetas tactics...Yeah, pretty shitty. When he said "his weakness is weak attacks", I thought "finally, he's going to use a Ki blast that maybe the other guy can't return", but nope, a punch to catch him? That was like the Piccolo vs Frost fight again.
Speaking of Ki blasts...Still none in the preview. Why do they both seem intent on fighting him with fists? If his ability is warping time 0.1 seconds, could he avoid 1000 ki blasts in every direction as they're both capable of?
When have ki blasts ever worked?
Well, that's not saying much.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
LordOfChaos
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Forms of Ki blasts have concluded a number of villain arcs...?
And in this situation they make sense to me at any rate, you have someone that can pause time for 0.1 second, so what if you saturate his space with enough ki blasts to be hard to avoid? It may not beat him, but it would hit him and stall him at least.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZKbO6lyheJs
Ultra Numb
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Base Goku standing from Hits attacks when SSB Vegeta was KO'd.
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Vegeta took multiple hits by Hit and was finished of by a heavy punch. Goku only took like 2-3 hits.
I think the absolute low point of that arc was the miserable looking shot of Vegeta batting away Goku and Frieza's stray ki blasts. Which is doubly disappointing since that bit was one of my favorite parts of the movie.
Vegeta took more hits than Goku did.
Also, while Hit is probably really strong anyway, it's not like he overwhelmed Vegeta in strength, he was hitting at his vitals. So it wouldn't really matter what form they were in.
Unknown One
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Probably only 1 time. Goku Vs Perfect Cell. Goku's last resort ki barrage landed tons of hits on Cell forcing him to use his barrier.
hikarutilmitt
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About as often as Genki Dama.
He's probably holding back a little. He knows what hurts a SSB so to avoid killing baseline Goku, he's probably pulling his punches.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Easily the best part of the episode
talisayNon
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Dragonball was more fucking fun when NeoGAF didnt exist. Jesus it's like 60% of the posts here just suck the fun out of it.
Concluded numerous villain arcs? We are talking about the move where they just spam ki blasts? It's never concluded anything and never really adds anything. It's just a technique used to show that a character has run out of ideas.
CherryWoodFuton
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It's not jus GAF. Fans like to nitpick. I don't think anyone shit posts here just because (maybe just ArtHands)
Welcome to the internet in general? A lot of the shitposting has gone away for the most part though, at least here.
CherryWoodFuton
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Universe 6 Jony Ive
Did you never have arguments with your friends when you were a kid about who was the best Z fighter?
(Hint: It's always Krillin and if you don't think so you're wrong.)
Complaints about animation quality, though, man, that's been old since halfway through the BoG arc.
PS Dragon Ball is two words damnit! Get it right!
I'm unsure, but haven't Ki Blast basically been how every major boss was defeated?
Frieza between the Spirit Bomb, Disco Disc, and Goku's finished. Cell with the Gohan + Goku Kamehama. Buu with the universal spirit bomb. Even Vegata vs Goku before he went Ape.
Also, Goku wasn't going in head strong like Vegeta. Why he wasn't getting hit as hard.
I haven't seen episode 5 posted in a while.
Right, most people have moved beyond that and a lot of the discussion about the recent episodes here has actually been fairly civil.
We are talking about spamming ki blasts here. I don't even remember the last proper enemy that was killed by a punch or a kick.
Hit could dodge any proper ki blast. We are talking about spamming in order to prevent him fro exploiting his time manipulation.
LordOfChaos
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Ki blast just means any soft of energy firing. And I'm only talking about spamming it long enough to hit him and give him pause, then use whatever else as he seems to have a refresh time on the time pause.
And on the other hand, how many times has trying to punch someone really fast solved anything in DB?
I mean, Hit is powerful. So Goku spams a thousand blasts off in every direction so that Hit can't dodge it. They aren't gonna be powerful enough to win the fight. All Goku would be doing is wearing himself down.
Unknown One
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We're talking about the tiny ones. The ones Vegeta loves to spam. Majority of the time it's a waste of energy.
If the animation had been as consistently bad as that after ep 5, you better believe people would have kept posting it. Seeing as its not been anywhere near that awful in quite some time + a new arc going on. People are too busy speculating what's going to happen next, something they haven't been able to do in DB since the 90's
DrunkShogun
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Nice on the reply. That's a real shame about the current setup. Good to hear piccolo has a moment but think I'm going to give the show then. Thanks again on the quick response.
To be fair, Vegeta only lost because no one told him about what Hit was doing! Goku completely lucked out that Jaco and Squid King thing knew about Time Leap and told Goku about it in the EXACT detail and amount of time it uses for Goku to actually time a counter. Once base form Goku knew it worked and Hit knew he had to fight, that's when it jumped to the point where Vegeta already went into head first (but again with the lack of knowledge).
Unknown One
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I think even if Gohan was stronger, he wouldn't be able to defeat Hit. Gohan is not exactly a smart fighter. He's more of a brawler like Vegeta.
This.
Btw,I'm gonna be kinda pissed off if Goku will randomly get that power up or he was actually hiding it from Vegeta like he did for SSJ3 against Majin Vegeta rofl
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Lord Virgin
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So when Hit stops time, does he stop it for that particular planet? What are the limitations? I used to wonder the same thing with Guildo. Any recovery time? This stuff is just so weird.
Maybe he picked up some things from Piccolo.
It's only known that the amount of time is 0.1 seconds. You'd have to be incredibly fast to take advantage of it anyway. Guldo had as long as he could hold his breath, but he was weak physically and couldn't do much else but run away from anyone stronger.
Unknown One
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Hope so.
In the battle of Mystic Gohan vs Super Buutanks, Gohan was fighting evenly with him until his fighting sense made him lose that battle. Which shows that Piccolo is the better fighter if the power levels are equal. Buu even mocked him that he should have known better.
In the battle of Mystic Gohan vs Super Buutanks, Gohan was fighting evenly with him until his fighting sense made him lose that battle. Which shows that Piccolo is the better fighter if the power levels are equal. Buu even mocked him that he should have known better.
Jinjo
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Probably limited to those within his ki area. It feels like he manipulates time more for himself to move through than for anyone else. Time doesn't really stop for other people, he 'skips' through it. There seems to be no recovery time as he can fire off multiple punch in a row this way.
Then again, he couldn't use it to defend from Goku's attacks, but that's more due to the fact that he just saw it coming way too late. Anyway, seems more of an offensive ability. Which is why I think only he is affected and he can 'skip' through it. Materialize his body elsewhere as long as it's within 0.1 second.
And_Gignac
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Monaka being a fraud was painfuly obvious.
And Toriyama forgot about Guiido.
And Toriyama forgot about Guiido.
I don't quite understand your question. Punching usually causes damage. Spamming ki blasts almost never does.
Exactly. I don't see the point to Ki blasts. I remember the one Piccolo used against Android 17, one of the few times it was actually effective.
NeonZ
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If Monaka isn't a fraud at this point, he'd have to be fooling Beerus and Whis, considering their dialogue.
I think the only route they could take with him, in that direction, would him being a villain, unknown to Beerus, and also being the one that gets to use the Super Dragonballs, leading to the next arc.
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