Eh, Goku would never pull a cop out like that to win unless it was the fate of the world at stake. Saitama would tag him eventually.
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Eh, Goku would never pull a cop out like that to win unless it was the fate of the world at stake. Saitama would tag him eventually.
It's also not like Monaka is going to suddenly vanish either, he can always try to spar with him after the tournament
Host Samurai
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18 is Vegetas worst L. The embarrassment after becoming SSJ worsens it.
I'm surprised he never wanted to destroy her after the Cell games
I'm surprised he never wanted to destroy her after the Cell games
He deserved it though.
Not even then. He has too much of a fair fighter to do that. Probably the reason why he hasn't thought the technique to anyone,because literally every one else of the cast would try to do that, we're they able to use it.
He's also not one to throw a match though.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Words have never been less apti found a wall paper that certain people on here might enjoy
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Lord Virgin
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Well, technically:
Gohan - Alive
His enemies - dead
Unless we count Future Gohan.
i found a wall paper that certain people on here might enjoy
Gonna admit that I chuckled.
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
Future Gohan had a cool hairstyle
His Dokkan Battle card is also pretty good...and won't drop for me '-'
donkey show
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Hopefully Future Gohan can dokkan into One-Armed Gohan. Still dumb One-Arm hasn't had that representation in a video game yet (unless he's in Heroes).
Even Sasuke from Naruto doesn't get to have "one arm" in games, so that's never happening.
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Haha yeah, I was looking through the images for the event they had with him recently and no one arm :<
i found a wall paper that certain people on here might enjoy
These are all from dokkan battle. They've used some really good art for Gohan.
Still trying to get those new Ultimate Gohans '-'
no, its not "someone you know is strong" at all, jobbing is someone being a human punching bag. because thats their role as a character.
someone whos JOB it is to lose. all the time.
literally. a loser.
ie Yamcha gets jobbed. Piccolo gets jobbed. Cuz they are already losers and them fighting is pointless for anything other than getting their ass whooped.
vegeta, who at the time was arguably as strong as Goku, losing to the strongest character from the other universe who was using a technique even the Gods didnt know how to counter is not jobbing.
sometimes its just losing a fight. lol
it just happened to be a situation that Goku could sweep up after. which in reality has nothing to do with jobbing. thats more Goku being a trope than Vegeta.
Id agree with the general notion of Vegeta getting jobbed pretty often, but trying to say that Hit defeating SSGSS Vegeta is jobbing is just throwing the term around. Hit could have defeated Goku if he went up first. Basically, Vegeta didnt lose because hes a jobber. He lost because Hit is ridiculously strong. So. He didnt get jobbed.
LordOfChaos
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We really become the Oxford Dictionary committee between episodes, eh?
"The gods didn't know how to counter", bull fucking shit my friend.
Vados Whis Champa know about it, that leaves only Beerus. Big whoop.
Vegeta has never won against a single main enemy, he can only win against weak characters.
So when it comes to big baddies, he absolutely IS a jobber. And getting absolutely destroyed and humiliated is pretty much a Vegeta classic at this point, which is what happened once again.
Vados Whis Champa know about it, that leaves only Beerus. Big whoop.
Vegeta has never won against a single main enemy, he can only win against weak characters.
So when it comes to big baddies, he absolutely IS a jobber. And getting absolutely destroyed and humiliated is pretty much a Vegeta classic at this point, which is what happened once again.
Aaronrules380
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Whether or not Goku would lose if he went first is irrelevant though, since this is more a technique of writing, which means it's largely seperate from in-universe ideas. Vegeta's job in his fight with Hit was to make Hit look strong
Lmao Beerus is big whoop? The God of Destruction is a nobody? Id say its fair to say that if a God doesnt know something, its pretty rare.
Again, my point stands.
If Vegeta getting defeated by a universe's strongest assassin by a technique that even Beerus didn't know about is him getting jobbed, then literally every fight always has exactly 1 jobber, because you are defining it by losing. Goku got jobbed by Cell, Buu literally jobbed every single character in DBZ.
You can't just throw the term jobbing around at every lost fight.
Vegeta might be a jobber, but he didn't get jobbed. He lost because Hit is good.
Vegeta lost for legitimate reasons. Its not jobbing. Anyone would have lost against Hit. Whether or not a character is displayed as strong and someone loses a fight is not enough to define jobbing.
You have to be able to argue that Vegeta ONLY lost to make Hit look strong. He didn't.
Otherwise its not jobbing.
Im just saying guys. If anytime a character loses a fight and therefore their enemy looks strong, then every loser of every fight is a jobber, and youre missing the entire point of the term.
Aaronrules380
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Losing because Hit is good is completely irrelevant to being a Jobber. In fact, that's the entire point of the Jobber: To make the opponent look good
Jobbing isn't about losing. It's about losing in such a way as to prop up the opponent
Both Goku and Vegeta lost once against Golden Frieza, but neither was a jobber in those fights because they were dominating the fight until Frieza used an underhanded trick in both cases. They lost, but the purpose was to make Frieza look underhanded, not strong
The Silver
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Guess it needs to be said again......
That's how it starts
you first lose to the main villain so the protagonist can look good
then you are killed mid arc and resurrected for the happy ending
then you are no longer invited to participate in tournaments
then you only appear for the big party at the arc end, but only on the anime, never on the manga
then it is a big event if you have spoken lines in an episode
you first lose to the main villain so the protagonist can look good
then you are killed mid arc and resurrected for the happy ending
then you are no longer invited to participate in tournaments
then you only appear for the big party at the arc end, but only on the anime, never on the manga
then it is a big event if you have spoken lines in an episode
Wrong. Losing for legitimate reasons and losing for the mere sake of making someone seem strong is literally the defining difference between jobbing and just losing a fight.
According to you there is no difference, because any time a fight is lost the winner looks stronger and therefore the loser got jobbed. Thats not what jobbing is.
You said it yourself, its about propping up the opponent. If the sole purpose of Vegeta's ass whooping was to prop him up, we would only know from plot reasons. Vegeta can only have gotten jobbed if:
1) If there was no good reason for Vegeta to ever stand a chance against Hit in the first place. It was always going to be a merciless beating just to show how strong Hit is. Untrue. Vegeta could have stood a chance, he's stronger than Hit, presumably.
2) If the ONLY reason Vegeta lost was retarded, therefore the whole thing was set up to prop up Hit. Untrue. Vegeta lost because he couldn't counter his technique, which isn't that unreasonable, considering the freaking God of Destruction of the universe had never seen it. You can't just call that getting jobbed.
Everything else is not jobbing. Also you can't just decide Vegeta lost to prop up Hit without evidence. Plotwise, it makes sense that he lost, and it was a fair fight against a fair opponent.
Its not jobbing.
Unknown One
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The jobbing talk is going nowhere. Maybe settle it in Wrestling Gaf.
Aaronrules380
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This is completely wrong, as I specifically pointed out an example where the loser was not a Jobber.
Second, the reason Vegeta was definitely a Jobber is that he didn't stand a chance in that fight. He got completely destroyed, and didn't even manage to land a SINGLE HIT. Vegeta clearly didn't stand a chance in that fight
Pankratous
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Can y'all possibly stop talking about jobbing, it's too close to jobbying and it's making me wanna go poo.
Jason's Ultimatum
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This thread has made a lot of people at my work start saying jobber.
Unknown One
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Hahahaha I can't even process that myself.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
Yeah people barely use jobber right when it comes to wrestling. Not gonna work when you start applying it to anime
Speaking of dokkan someone put out a dumb image of a xeno Trunks card from that game claiming to be a scan confirming Trunks is in super now. Pay no attention to it
Speaking of dokkan someone put out a dumb image of a xeno Trunks card from that game claiming to be a scan confirming Trunks is in super now. Pay no attention to it
SolVanderlyn
Thanos acquires the fully powered Infinity Gauntlet in The Avengers: Infinity War, but loses when all the superheroes team up together to stop him.
I want a DBS character whose name is literally Job.
And he should never lose a battle
Unknown One
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Dokkan has cards from almost everything Dragon Ball related. That doesn't really hold much weight.
After rewatching the episode with the Dragonteam subs, I think the time skipping doesn't make sense anymore.
Hit was landing multiple hits in quick succession on Vegeta using his time skip ability. The only theory as to why he couldn't react to Goku was because of some sort of refractory period on his time-skipping ability. But clearly that isn't true anymore.
I don't know how to make sense of it.
I've got this Gohan. Would've preferred INT but this'll do.
I think there's only a few hours left until this gacha goes. New content will be arriving after maintenance.
Hit was landing multiple hits in quick succession on Vegeta using his time skip ability. The only theory as to why he couldn't react to Goku was because of some sort of refractory period on his time-skipping ability. But clearly that isn't true anymore.
I don't know how to make sense of it.
I've got this Gohan. Would've preferred INT but this'll do.
I think there's only a few hours left until this gacha goes. New content will be arriving after maintenance.
A Pretty Panda
fuckin' called it, man
It was the character out of context, so it was to trick people who hadn't seen it by placing a Super logo next to it and screaming in cqps that it was a scan
Unknown One
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Ahhh ok.
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