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Dragon Ball Super |OT5| Zenophobia

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I do think Gohan was handled the best way possible.
I wasn't a fan of the Kamehameha being weaker than Lavender's attack. If they wanted the Kamehameha to lose, it should have been due to the poison.

Uh, that's actually what happened. We get a shot of the poison spreading up his arms and then he screams in pain.
 
Well luckily still not canon just fembroly.

I have no problem with that, its hilarious and awesome at different levels.


Anyways, since I'm here, gotta ask why the hell is the dub on such lockdown? I just went through the trouble of starting a premium account on funi just to find they don't even have their own stuff.
Oy, not even for Dragonball will i get cable again.
 
Universe 3 will be the underdogs. We got a robot god and supreme kai with glasses, we got data and knowledge on our side. Our average was probably 6.9 :P
 
I have no problem with that, its hilarious and awesome at different levels.


Anyways, since I'm here, gotta ask why the hell is the dub on such lockdown? I just went through the trouble of starting a premium account on funi just to find they don't even have their own stuff.
Oy, not even for Dragonball will i get cable again.

Its all over the internet.
 
Anyways, since I'm here, gotta ask why the hell is the dub on such lockdown? I just went through the trouble of starting a premium account on funi just to find they don't even have their own stuff.
Oy, not even for Dragonball will i get cable again.

They probably signed an exclusivity deal with Toonami. They might be able to upload episodes after they've released on home video.
 
I do think Gohan was handled the best way possible.
I wasn't a fan of the Kamehameha being weaker than Lavender's attack. If they wanted the Kamehameha to lose, it should have been due to the poison.

Isn't that pretty much what happened though? You saw the poison quickly covering his arms during the kamehameha.
 
I do think Gohan was handled the best way possible.
I wasn't a fan of the Kamehameha being weaker than Lavender's attack. If they wanted the Kamehameha to lose, it should have been due to the poison.
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It was a pretty good fight that actually had more thought put into it than just hit the other guy a lot. :D
Also the poison did effect the Kamehameha
 
Uh, that's actually what happened. We get a shot of the poison spreading up his arms and then he screams in pain.

Isn't that pretty much what happened though? You saw the poison quickly covering his arms during the kamehameha.

I'll rewatch it later, I didn't notice that. Guess I looked away during that, or just didn't notice.


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It was a pretty good fight that actually had more thought put into it than just hit the other guy a lot. :D
Also the poison did effect the Kamehameha

Gohan using strategic moves against his opponent was something we've wanted to see forever, and that was a pretty cool way for Gohan to finish Lavender.
 
Off topic: Does anyone from the irc yesterday remember the name of that Japanese lady that was rapping? That was really good, want to hear some more!
 
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Whis and Vados really don't give a fuck. I don't blame them though, in their position I wouldn't care either.
 
What I don't get is Beerus and Champa are brothers, yet they're from different universes... And now they risk getting erased along with "their" respective universes... Makes no sense.
 
What I don't get is Beerus and Champa are brothers, yet they're from different universes... And now they risk getting erased along with "their" respective universes... Makes no sense.
They get erased with the universe they are the GoD of, but I get the feeling now that both were born in Universe 11 or 2.
 
What I don't get is Beerus and Champa are brothers, yet they're from different universes...

They are the god of destruction of different universes, but I don't think it's ever been said that they are from different universes.

They both could have had their own journey, reached strength worthy of a god of destruction, and were "rewarded" their own universe.
Or maybe not, maybe they are just called brothers because they are counterparts like Frost/Frieza.
Who knows, but I like my first idea more.
 
I'll rewatch it later, I didn't notice that. Guess I looked away during that, or just didn't notice.




Gohan using strategic moves against his opponent was something we've wanted to see forever, and that was a pretty cool way for Gohan to finish Lavender.
Yeah it's there, I just watched the fight again and it's damn good. This and Buu's fight were perfect.
 
8t if was only power level it would be super fucked up the Zenos want to destroy entire universes. There are good people there among the shit like the Namekians,nice gods,good Saiyans even the earthlings like mr Satan to to heaven.

Don't they deserve to live instead of being destroyed because they are not "strong" enough? That is like worse than Zamasu.
 
This was such a good episode. Was all smiles during the entire fight. Gohan is fucking coming back! Woooo!

I wonder what's my universe (U3) mortal level? The nerd universe is gonna end up being the first one to lose aren't they? :(
 
8t if was only power level it would be super fucked up the Zenos want to destroy entire universes. There are good people there among the shit like the Namekians,nice gods,good Saiyans even the earthlings like mr Satan to to heaven.

Don't they deserve to live instead of being destroyed because they are not "strong" enough? That is like worse than Zamasu.

Zeno is the true villain. Both Zeno's are childlike and shouldn't exist with the amount of power they wield.
 
8t if was only power level it would be super fucked up the Zenos want to destroy entire universes. There are good people there among the shit like the Namekians,nice gods,good Saiyans even the earthlings like mr Satan to to heaven.

Don't they deserve to live instead of being destroyed because they are not "strong" enough? That is like worse than Zamasu.

I'm really curious if there's gonna be a rebellion against the gods because this is completely unfair.
 
It's crazy how U11 is consided average, when they have a living ningen that is about to become a GoD. Makes me wonder how many ningens in the top 4 are on par with Beerus or even Whis.
 
maybe I misunderstood something, but when the Grand Priest was talking about each universe's power level, he wasn't talking about the top fighters or whatever, he was talking about the average of every single person in that universe, right?
like, the top 10 fighters from U7 can still be way way stronger than the top 10 fighters from every other universe?

I don't get the point of that being pointed out, and being a big deal in that case.
 
They are the god of destruction of different universes, but I don't think it's ever been said that they are from different universes.

They both could have had their own journey, reached strength worthy of a god of destruction, and were "rewarded" their own universe.
Or maybe not, maybe they are just called brothers because they are counterparts like Frost/Frieza.
Who knows, but I like my first idea more.

Wasn't goku offered with the chance to replace Beerus if he dies?
I assume being a god of destruction is not a birthright or something similar,anyone can earn their way into that position.
Most likely that beerus and champa were sent to different universes after accepting to be gods of destruction.
Now i wonder if Frieza was the next in line before he got killed.
 
maybe I misunderstood something, but when the Grand Priest was talking about each universe's power level, he wasn't talking about the top fighters or whatever, he was talking about the average of every single person in that universe, right?
like, the top 10 fighters from U7 can still be way way stronger than the top 10 fighters from every other universe?

I don't get the point of that being pointed out, and being a big deal in that case.
Well is you apply math/ averages work than yes. The majority of people in U7 are 1s compared to Goku and Co being 10s
 
That was a good fight, I'm okay with the tied, even though clearly Gohan won. Lol, at the excuse they come up with, Zeno was gonna destroy 8 universe for being too weak, but Goku just happens to be right for asking to the tournament and giving at least 1 universe the chance to survival. Okay, sure. Also hope when the real tournament starts, fighter from all universe show not just the ones completing.
 
It's crazy how U11 is consided average, when they have a living ningen that is about to become a GoD. Makes me wonder how many ningens in the top 4 are on par with Beerus or even Whis.

You can have outliers and still come up a low average if most of the ningens are shit. Kinda like the majority of a class failing an exam and there's 1 dude that gets a 10/10. Nevertheless, that guy is most likely really, really strong as even Goku and Vegeta are nowhere near Beerus. Then again, the GoD probably aren't part of the ningen-index, so maybe U11 GoD is weaker than Beerus/Beerus is really strong for a GoD. Still plenty of variables.
 
Wasn't goku offered with the chance to replace Bills if he dies?
I assume being a god of destruction is not a birthright or something similar,anyone can earn their way into that position.
Most likely that bills and champa were sent to different universes after accepting to be gods of destruction.
Now i wonder if Frieza was the next in line before he got killed.

I really doubt it. Frieza was never anywhere close to a god of destruction before lol4months, and even after that he shows he is still very scared of Beerus which means he doesn't think he could ever reach that level to me.

But yeah, I'm guessing that Beerus and Champa are from the same universe and earned their position.
 
So I don't get it because the lower mortal ranked universes were "gonna be destroyed anyways" everyone is ok with them killing billions of people?

come on
 
I really doubt it. Frieza was never anywhere close to a god of destruction before lol4months, and even after that he shows he is still very scared of Beerus which means he doesn't think he could ever reach that level to me.

He was still the best and only candidate from U7 at that moment,even if he was a hella lot weaker than Beerus.
I mean he already knew Beerus during DBZ,that must mean something.
Even if the 4 months thing was one of the biggest asspull in the series,it shows that Frieza had a real long term potential.
Of course,this is just my opinion.
 
So I don't get it because the lower mortal ranked universes were "gonna be destroyed anyways" everyone is ok with them killing billions of people?

come on
It's not that it's okay, but that everyone knows what the Zenos can do and are terrified to speak back to them. So what Zeno says, goes and everyone is pretty much just sucking it up because they don't have much choice and don't want to risk being erased on the spot for annoying one of the Zenos.
 
He was still the best and only candidate from U7 at that moment,even if he was a hella lot weaker than Bills.
I mean he already knew Bills during DBZ,that must mean something.
Even if the 4 months thing was one of the biggest asspull in the series,it shows that Frieza had a real long term potential.
Of course,this is just my opinion.

Why are you calling him Bills instead of Beerus?
 
I really doubt it. Frieza was never anywhere close to a god of destruction before lol4months, and even after that he shows he is still very scared of Beerus which means he doesn't think he could ever reach that level to me.

But yeah, I'm guessing that Beerus and Champa are from the same universe and earned their position.

I think that the GoDs are trained by their angels to be brought to an acceptable levels; they seem to be immortal so they can train for a looooong time

the implication with the whole Z-Sword was that Beerus wasn't as strong as Buu back when he sealed the old kaiohshin in the sword, so he must have had a lot of time to train

so even if Freeza was barely below SSJ level, he could easily be the best available candidate around, although we don't know if there are other requirements, like not being completely evil, but then again, it's v possible Beerus and Champa weren't guys too good either
 
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