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Dragon Ball Super |OT7| Please wait for Tien to be cool.
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Frieza and 17 are probably the biggest issues.
18 and Goku as well probably.
Everybody loves Dadgeta, even Frieza will.
18 and Goku as well probably.
Everybody loves Dadgeta, even Frieza will.
He's been very salubrious for my enjoyment of this arc, at least.
Fulminator
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they should wish for freeza to be revived as a kid
have vegeta raise him
freeza redeemed
have vegeta raise him
freeza redeemed
Do we know what the race looks like as kids? Not counting Chilled. Also, I wish they gave them an official name.
They should just remake GT but replace Goku with Frieza. The plots of GT would make more sense.
Fulminator
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i changed my mind, have gohan raise freeza
freeza redeemed
freeza redeemed
Chaotic-Strike
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Freeza hasn't had a villain arc, though he's been fundamentally the same character since he appeared. His goals haven't changed and the longer we see him remain the same the quicker his appeal wears out. Character development is fundamentally a change that occurs in a character motivations and or strategies via learning from past mistakes. In order to have character development the character must change in some way, it is in the term's very name.
Freeza can still be an evil, manipulative, scheming backstabber without having his grudge clouding his judgement every time he sees Goku. The character can evolve past that in the same way Piccolo, Vegeta and any other villains did. They don't exactly have to turn good but by changing fundamentally the way they operate to achieve their goal is far more interesting. He's already back now so instead of having him go through the same motions as last time they could demonstrate how his past experiences have affected him and changed him as a character.
Super as a whole already has too much trouble with characters refusing to change as it is, which is why it would be better to start correcting it sooner than later.
These are basically my whole thoughts on the situation, so I'll probably just agree to disagree like you suggested.
Fulminator
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we have only seen freeza for like three episodes so far, give it a bit more time
he seems to have much more planned than just murdering goku
he seems to have much more planned than just murdering goku
Yeah, he's plenty sick of Beerus's shit. And by his shit, I mean being someone he has to show his respect to. His character demands that HE stand at the top of all things, not Beerus and certainly not Zen-Oh
Chaotic-Strike
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Oh I know.
They've been doing a good job so far, and I hope they take it somewhere besides simply erasing him for doing something stupid.
Fulminator
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freeza ain't shit to beerus though
loved it when he teleported behind him, and basically threatened him
beerus is really cool
i also hope there is more in store for freeza than just being hakai'd though
loved it when he teleported behind him, and basically threatened him
beerus is really cool
i also hope there is more in store for freeza than just being hakai'd though
Oh, don't let Frieza find out or we'll have another Zamasu arc!
Fulminator
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freeza will reveal that his race is able to fuse like namekians
freeza and frost fuse
shenanigans proceed
freeza and frost fuse
shenanigans proceed
plz dont do this
If he gets that wish from the Super Dragon Balls everything could go bad in a hurry.
I mean this is the guy who gave Cell a senzu to make it a fair fight for his son when the world was at stake
Fulminator
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"Hey Freeza, there's this room where you can get a year's worth of training in a day. I really wanna fight you again, let's both do our best to get stronger! n_n"
Popo should tell Frieza about the ROSAT on one condition, he punishes Vegeta for breaking it.
Frieza is suddenly stronger than whis and we get our whis and beerus fight and fusion
I did because they did Frieza very well in Resurrection 'F', which was better than the movie. So I never had a doubt Frieza would be done well.
Fulminator
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i think it would be neat if buu absorbed freeza
Fulminator
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Undead Fantasy
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He could still attack him from the ring.
Obviously the homing death beam hits Goku when he's off the edge, and Goku has the conversation when he's falling.
Fulminator
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freeza is probably stronger than 90% of the participants tbh
no way in hell he is weaker than any of the u6 saiyans
toppo would probably give him some trouble though, if goku had to go kaioken against him
i guess i have a different idea of how falling off works
i imagine they just poof (either are erased or moved somewhere else) the second they fall off
freeza acknowledges goku as an integral part of the u7 team. unless freeza can find a way to escape erasure, i don't think he's about to screw with his team during the tournament
or who knows, maybe he will go on a killing spree with frost
no way in hell he is weaker than any of the u6 saiyans
toppo would probably give him some trouble though, if goku had to go kaioken against him
i guess i have a different idea of how falling off works
i imagine they just poof (either are erased or moved somewhere else) the second they fall off
eh i don;t think he would risk it
freeza acknowledges goku as an integral part of the u7 team. unless freeza can find a way to escape erasure, i don't think he's about to screw with his team during the tournament
or who knows, maybe he will go on a killing spree with frost
His plan is to murder Goku and screw over Beerus. Same goal, he's just being smarter about it since he knows that he can't directly kill Goku at the moment.
Well, who the hell knows about Kale. If they're going full Broly with that, I have to imagine the point is to have her truck over some people.
Hellwarden
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So I hate to post bad news, but there's something concerning Frieza's current English VA that I think people should know about, especially since Toonami viewers are enjoying his work so much in Super. Christopher Ayres is fantastic as Frieza in my opinion, as good and sometimes better than the Japanese VA. He also seems like a really swell guy all around who genuinely enjoys interacting with fans. That's why I'm really sad to say he's going through some hardships right now...He revealed on his facebook that he's suffering from advanced Chronic obstructive pulmonary disease and final stage Emphysema. Apparently he's been in the hospital for the past three months.
So if you can, go wish him well on twitter or facebook, tell him you're enjoying him on Super, keep him in your prayers, and hope life treats him better.
So if you can, go wish him well on twitter or facebook, tell him you're enjoying him on Super, keep him in your prayers, and hope life treats him better.
Toppo is stated to be even with goku so he will be even with Frieza though he was ready to fight against SSBK while Frieza was only equal to SSB
Fulminator
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eh idk, vegeta blue knocked out cabba in one hit
kale landed some serious blows on cabba but he was still in fighting shape
of course comparing power levels is a fools errand at this point, but i don't think any of them are at blue level, which freeza possibly exceeds at this point
we don;t know what he;s up to with frost either
for all we know he could be planning to usurp zeno
what you say is true, but we don't really know his end goal for sure, just parts of it
Do I need to watch the fight with Toppo again? Wasn't he losing against Super Saiyan Blue even without Kaioken or am I remembering wrong?
That sucks. I haven't watched any new dubbed stuff but this is always unfortunate to hear. I hope for the best.
That sucks. I haven't watched any new dubbed stuff but this is always unfortunate to hear. I hope for the best.
Fulminator
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he was shook for a minute there but i think he regained his footing
im gonna watch it again actually
im gonna watch it again actually
Goku had the edge on him but Toppo was holding his own and then tanked a Kamehame point blank damaged got pissed his clothes were damaged and was powering up and Goku responds with Kaioken
Undead Fantasy
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Holy shit. Please get better Freeza-sama.
Vicetrailia
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Japanese Frieza and 17 voices are so great.
Freeza Under The Shower
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I don't think Freeza knows about Zeno directly yet though.
Chaotic-Strike
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He mentioned Zeno when he was talking to Sidra.
foxuzamaki
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Chaotic-Strike
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He didn't tank it since he got damaged and was clearly tired from blocking it. Toppo wasn't really holding his own.
Toppo managed not to get beaten down by SSB+KK, that's a huge feat.
KK was after the Kamehameha and responded by powering up
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