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Dragon Quest X is not meeting expectations
- Thread starter Nirolak
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Kingdom Hearts too, there might be more."Big deal" is relative. Dragon Quest's a million seller overseas, which makes it bigger than pretty much every JRPG at this point that isn't Final Fantasy, Pokémon or starring Mario. Maybe Dark Souls too, though I'm not sure if that even broke a million in the west.
Also, prepare to be surprised.
Pretty sure Horii has straight out said so, not leaving any doubt on how they'll always make Dragon Quest mainline games for the most popular hardware (in Japan).
DQXI will probably be a 3DS game, simply because it's the only relatively well selling platform in Japan at the moment. Wii U is failing and PS360 are already on their way out and the sales of Orbis & Durango (in Japan) probably won't justify developing it for those platforms for a loooong time. So unless Wii U or Vita picks up and manages to outsell 3DS before they decide what platform they'll develop the next mainline DQ for, you can bet DQXI will be a 3DS game.
It's not a HUGE deal outside Japan, but even selling like 100k-200k copies in the long run and having most of those playing DQX for a long while would probably be enough for them to make it really worth it.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
KH hasn't broken a million in the west since 2006 afaik. It's a franchise that SE has really let die on the vine.
Did Square Enix ever continue to push Dragon Quest X after it launched. Or did they simply launch it and then forgot about it in terms of advertising or simply attempt to attract new subscribers? If they themselves haven't continued to make people aware of it why should Nintendo be automatically blamed. They didn't publish the game. It's not different from any other MMORPG. You have to continue to let people know about it, especially if word of mouth doesn't bring in new subscribers.
Also what did they expect only keeping it in one region?
They haven't released a KH3 either. When they do, it'll sell much better.
Don't know if it was mentioned yet, but EQ: OA.
mejin
Member
I think people will move to another games sooner than you think. If only this game had launched in 2009, 2010...maybe we could have the scenario you have in mind.
Twilight Princess
Member
i still don't get why dq has to go mmo 
why can't they just give the fans what they want, an epic single player adventure, i mean that's what dq stands for, right?
x has zero chance of being big in the west...
why can't they just give the fans what they want, an epic single player adventure, i mean that's what dq stands for, right?x has zero chance of being big in the west...
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Deleted member 17706
Unconfirmed Member
A Wii-exclusive MMORPG... what the fuck were they expecting?
Talk about not knowing your audience or platform in the slightest.
Talk about not knowing your audience or platform in the slightest.
"Big deal" is relative. Dragon Quest's a million seller overseas, which makes it bigger than pretty much every JRPG at this point that isn't Final Fantasy, Pokémon or starring Mario. Maybe Dark Souls too, though I'm not sure if that even broke a million in the west.
Also, prepare to be surprised.
Dark Souls shipped 1.8 million, so it's possible it's over a 1 million in the West.
The highest number for the West I have for 358/2 is 950k, so it's probably shipped over 1 million.
Edit: That number includes only 750k for North America and considering people say it has sold like 900k according to NPD, then it is very very likely they shipped over 1 million to the West.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
That's suppossing SE will even release a game called "Kingdom Hearts 3". I'm not sure if that will be the case for the foreseeable future, possibly not even on any currently available hardware.
DQIX on DS outperformed the non-numbered "mainline" KHs in the west though (BBS PSP, DDD 3DS). No other JRPGs this gen have outsold DQIX in the west except the franchises I mentioned before.
Good to know! Dark Souls seems like a sure bet then. 358/2d is a maybe, though DQIX also likely shipped more than the 1.02m figure we got 6 months after it'd launched.
BrokenEchelon
Banned
Here's an idea: Stop making fucking garbage.
The fact that I once worshiped at the altar of Final Fantasy and Squaresoft seems like it was in another lifetime on another planet at this point.
The fact that I once worshiped at the altar of Final Fantasy and Squaresoft seems like it was in another lifetime on another planet at this point.
Alexios
Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
What's with so many people concluding it's a bomba and blaming the platform, Square, or whatever else, without even knowing how short of expectations it is, how successful it is, what they think caused the under-performance, if it can be fixed, etc...
How many hours have you played, it had some positive reactions on GAF, I don't recall you mentioning much about it in those threads but maybe I forgot. Anyway, it's not like they abandoned single player DQ, the last same-gen entry was as strong as ever and the next likely will be too, while this is also profitable as far as we know and if they can keep even part of the audience it could end up being more profitable than any previous and future DQ even if the others are way more front loaded with impressive sales numbers. Not that they should abandon any when they can have different teams supporting both styles.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
Yep, I know the feeling.
They totally forgot why people played the rpgs from the SNES/PSX era.
Edit: This post should have included PS2
Manmademan
Member
what the hell is going on at S/E? sometimes I think that your average GAF poster could run the business better.
I honestly don't think it would've done better on the PS3.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Evidently more than 700k shipped with a subscriber base over 400k in just Japan. I guess tripling FFXI wasn't enough, they expected more?
this also the problem seem to be people playing the game and not the console it was sold on
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I think it would have, but better then DQ8 or 9. Hardly.
Ideally they should have made both a mainline DQ10 and DQ Online.
The MMORPG attracts a different audience to an extent compared to a single play RPG.
cooljeanius
Member
Release it in the west already, maybe then it'll do better.
Considering they've made games that play better than any of those comparable classics you hold so dear, no they haven't. They've lost a few of their better storytellers, but they've still got it as far as fun JRPGs go. And some people show some promise in their story scenarios (not Toriyama, of course).
not a surprise. poor DQ tho. =(
or 9 for 3DS (lol it would be nice), or they won't make any more remakes and just let DQ die.
ZombiePlatypus
Member
Are these only Wii numbers? How's it doing on the WiiU?
I want a collection featuring 1,2, and 3 together.
Its not out yet.
Suikoguy
I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I've recently went back and replayed FF6, FF7 and FF9.
I disagree. But I don't want to get into a discussion in this thread, as it's about DQ10 not Final Fantasy
That being said, the DQ7 remake is being held in rather high regard by several forum members here. So maybe not all is lost.
RyougaSaotome
Member
Not sure about that. I didn't put nearly as much time into X as other GAF peeps did, but it certainly felt and played like a Dragon Quest game, except online.
Probably nothing. They'll just be waiting to announce DQ11 or maybe another Monsters game.
why DQ 3 is really popular in japan (and its my personal favorite). i think it deserves a remake
Megalosaro
Banned
Didn't they like, double the amount of servers running the game since launch? That seems to indicate higher than expected player rates, since they felt the need to increase the game's physical infrastructure.
As for the quality of the game, I haven't played it but I have like 4 friends who are and they all say it's pretty damn good. One of my friends says its her favorite in the franchise. All of them say it very much feels more like a DQ game than an MMO
As for the quality of the game, I haven't played it but I have like 4 friends who are and they all say it's pretty damn good. One of my friends says its her favorite in the franchise. All of them say it very much feels more like a DQ game than an MMO
I think it deserves one too, but just my opinion that they won't do it anytime soon or at least before DQ11.
DR2K
Banned
8, then 9.
Magicpaint
Member
You guys do realise it has been remade twice right?
Would be interesting if the game could be redone to fit the 3DS. Graphics would have to be redone but nothing I've seen of the game makes me think it couldn't be done. The size of the cart would be have to be huge though but with the redone grahics that could bring the size down considerably. Ideally the 3DS LL/XL would be the system you'd want to play it on. Could be repackaged with that if it could be done.
Or maybe the graphics wouldn't even need to be redone as Monster Hunter looks great on the system.
What would be the point of it? It's an MMO that you need to play at home anyway. It's not really a good fit for a handheld.
lunchwithyuzo
Banned
Dragon Quest Monsters 2 on 3DS.
Well there are certain aspects of the game ported to the 3DS.. Like card minigames that connect with the wiiu game
cartman414
Member
I hope they accelerate development of the next offline game. I don't want to wait yet another few years.
No matter what the focus is on character-wise, I hope they don't discard the post-game/DQVC stuff from IX either. Got a lot more playtime out of it.
They should just put the I-III remakes on smartphone/tablet/etc. platforms like they have been doing for FF.
No matter what the focus is on character-wise, I hope they don't discard the post-game/DQVC stuff from IX either. Got a lot more playtime out of it.
They should just put the I-III remakes on smartphone/tablet/etc. platforms like they have been doing for FF.
Well they have released them on wii
cartman414
Member
Only in Japan, and using the old, original roms. Ports to iOS/Android/WP8/etc. would be a perfect excuse for localization.
Only that horii yuji would be against it for obvious reasons
I have said it once, and I will say it again.
Square Enix can continue chasing money with idiotic decisions that shit all over their core constituency all they want, but eventually their brand will be so damaged that there will be no one left to purchase their games.
The Square-Enix that produced Final Fantasy XI is not the same company that exists today. It is also not 2002 any more. It is folly to try to recreate that situation.
Is it truly so difficult to listen to your constituency, and make at least some attempt to satisfy them and give them a reason to buy or subscribe to your product?
Square Enix can continue chasing money with idiotic decisions that shit all over their core constituency all they want, but eventually their brand will be so damaged that there will be no one left to purchase their games.
The Square-Enix that produced Final Fantasy XI is not the same company that exists today. It is also not 2002 any more. It is folly to try to recreate that situation.
Is it truly so difficult to listen to your constituency, and make at least some attempt to satisfy them and give them a reason to buy or subscribe to your product?