Nah, it's like the thread title talks about with concern trolls. Sony has been riding the wave of good news for months now. A game gets delayed and people want to start acting like Sony just announced that the PS4 itself is getting delayed. Now we have people accusing Sony of lying about launch titles to get people to pre-order it? It's console warz, plain and simple boyo.
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Driveclub delayed, PSN+ replacement is Contrast
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Nah, it's like the thread title talks about with concern trolls. Sony has been riding the wave of good news for months now. A game gets delayed and people want to start acting like Sony just announced that the PS4 itself is getting delayed. Now we have people accusing Sony of lying about launch titles to get people to pre-order it? It's console warz, plain and simple boyo.
GribbleGrunger
Dreams in Digital
It does make sense when your competitor is releasing a game that isn't as technically advanced but gets more traction with the press just because it runs at 60fps. It also means they can give it a release date free of racers to compete with. An Infamous: Second Son and Driveclub bundle early next year would cause quite a stir.
deputyspade
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I predict a shitload of patches in the works for that one in ancient Rome after launch.
You tried to push this idea, and you got called out on it.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Pikmin 3 and Wonderful 101 were heavily advertised as launch window. Hey, throw in Rayman Legends for the customary Ubisoft tip of the hat, and Nintendo look ever the more shady liars of comtemptiousness.
Interesting to see what on earth is going to happen to Evolution when Drive Club fails to enthuse even after delay. Before comments from Polyphony, I woulda plonked at GT6 PS4 version around Spring 2014 too, so thats another factor.
REMEMBER CITADEL
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People on gaming forums are but a small part of the overall potential audience, let alone people on GAF who are just a subset of that group, people on GAF who complained about 30 fps who are just a subset of that group, and people on GAF who complained about it and wouldn't buy the game because of it who are just a subset of THAT group.
Salvor.Hardin
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Oh come on. You can't blame Sony for the Watchdogs delay and InFamous technically isn't delayed. Early 2014 isn't far off anyway, and if you have a PS4, GT6 is just around the corner.
killatopak
Member
Hahahahhahah lol.
MDSLKTR
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You should have seen his posts during e3
The Mana Legend
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I'm talking about this scenario you made up where I am some Nintendo fanboy out for Sony's head. I understand you're probably a tad upset by the recent delays (understandably so), but come on dude, no need to get so hostile.
uncharted86
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The last Sony first party game to get delayed was The Last of Us. The end product of DriveClub will benefit from this delay no doubt.
You can still get all the PS4 PS+ games through the web store if you are a PS+ member.
You can still get all the PS4 PS+ games through the web store if you are a PS+ member.
The Mana Legend
Banned
Okay, now you're making up shit because I wasn't here for E3, bro. Nice try, though
Glorified G
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deputyspade
Member
You are eating up all that PR bullshit. "future proof" "power of the cloud" "moving towards the future". Please elaborate on the examples of their future proofing.
Cool news for Contrast being added. Resogun and Contrast free on day one still have me excited. I know there are games coming that will make me not regret my purchase (Watch Dogs, Galak-Z, Secret Ponchos, The Order, and Infamous, for starters). I might pick up KZ:SF at some point if there's a lull. Otherwise, I always still have my PC/PS3/Vita/3DS and backlog.
Sucks for people that were looking forward to DC.
Sucks for people that were looking forward to DC.
I personally dislike racing, sports, and fighting games.
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Isn't that part of the reason we buy console though? To have new games and a new machine to play with. I'm agreeing with you btw.
I feel like people are judging how viable the platform is going to be just based on those early launch games when on PS4, there is a ton of games hitting constantly via retail and indie. If you add in the free Plus, cross buy stuff, and purchased games I'm looking to have around 10 games at launch. I don't know if this is bad but I'm sure someone can find something negative to note about that.
I don't know what to tell you, I mean they could come out and say they want the PS4 to last at least 10 years, like the PS1, PS2 and PS3 before it, but as they say proof is in the pudding, and Sony have proved for a long time that their console's are future proof.
Absolutely and when they get called out on it, they back off and back peddle.
Not upset at all, read my posts, i dont care about Drive Club, id buy GT, NFS, Forza and Mario Kart over it. My posts are consistent here.
You made a silly claim that Sony was being shady, when presented with Nintendo own delays you attempted to make some sort of loophole to make your accusation of Sony work, it simply does not.
People can cancel their pre order of PS4 right now, they can return it for full refunds. If i bought a Wii U in february expecting to play Donkey Kong this year, then i cannot, and i am not even sure if i can get a refund when DK got delayed. Are Nintendo a scummy and shady company? No
Games get delayed. The person making shit up is you, its pointless.
Salvor.Hardin
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I understand the point that you're trying to make but I can't help but laugh at the way you made it. Just because TLoU is a good looking game doesn't give any reasoning power to assume anything about DriveClub. The correlation is highly flawed.
GuitarAtomik
Member
Ohhhhh nice.
djjinx2
Member
Jokes aside I can live with this.
I probably wont play Resogun or Contrast much but I shall give them a go.
Just glad they delayed if it means we get a better game early next year!
I mean we all still get it FREE*
*Free with a subscription, while subscription lasts.
(Driveclub will blow us away upon release)
The Mana Legend
Banned
Launch games delayed 1 month before a system comes out is different than a game being delayed a year after a system is released, months before the actual game is released.
Again, you're confusing two completely different situations.
Love Deterrence
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Apologies, I must have missed something. You're right. I agree that it has little-to-no effect on how the PS4 sells. It concerns me, though. As someone who has the console (both consoles) pre-ordered, it concerns me. Do I think it's the end for Sony? No, of course not. And I didn't mean to insinuate anything CLOSE to that. I kind of tried to get my point across in (what ended up being) a passive-aggressive manner of being as delicate as possible and I just dropped the ball on pointing out that I have concerns beyond JUST launch. (There are plenty of things I love about the PS4, too. The indie support is something I'm REALLY excited about!) I'm excited for both consoles, just as I am concerned.
Hope that those concerns are put to rest soon, and I'm sure that they will be.
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Right, and it has nothing to do with the fact that one is a new entry in a well known franchise respected for its consistently high quality, and another a new IP that the press really hasn't seen much of yet, and thus has very little to go by.
And I won't get into the whole debate about which game is more technically advanced, but it's silly making such claims when they're supported by little more than the fact that only one of those games has dynamic GI, while conveniently ignoring all the unique things that the other game is doing behind the scenes.
killatopak
Member
If Xbox 360 is to be based on this "future-proof" console, I'm so sorry for you after 5 years because any future of that console will just be full of multiplats.
If we're talking about specs, PS4 is more future proof.
The only saving grace that Xbox One currently has is exclusives and I'm not confident they'll be pushing as much as PS4 will be.
sixteen-bit
Member
So NFS is the launch racer?
sucks they couldn't make the launch...was/am very interested in this game...im sure they added time will be used wisely...
Luckily, unlike many i don't turn up my nose to the enjoyment that can be had from games like CoD or Battlefield...so my launch is still plenty packed with Killzone, FIFA14, Ghosts, BF4, and GT6 coming less than a month later i'll still be able to survive without my Forza till next year...
- In the long run its for the best...you want the game to be as good as possible...there is a reason we've only seen the game running with a single car on the track up to this point...something was certainly wrong with the game's performance
- While this will certainly hurt the launch, its not going to kill anything...i doubt any significant number of pre-orders are canceled because of this, and the console will still be sold out for the foreseeable future
- GT6 is still going to sell by the butt load on the PS3 so I don't think Sony is in for any kind of financial issues due to the delay
you just made me smile
Luckily, unlike many i don't turn up my nose to the enjoyment that can be had from games like CoD or Battlefield...so my launch is still plenty packed with Killzone, FIFA14, Ghosts, BF4, and GT6 coming less than a month later i'll still be able to survive without my Forza till next year...
- In the long run its for the best...you want the game to be as good as possible...there is a reason we've only seen the game running with a single car on the track up to this point...something was certainly wrong with the game's performance
- While this will certainly hurt the launch, its not going to kill anything...i doubt any significant number of pre-orders are canceled because of this, and the console will still be sold out for the foreseeable future
- GT6 is still going to sell by the butt load on the PS3 so I don't think Sony is in for any kind of financial issues due to the delay
you just made me smile
Terbinator
Member
Can i get a refund for a Wii U i bought in February because Donkey Kong got pushed to next year?
Can i get a refund for a PS4 i pre ordered at any point because Drive Club got delayed?
Neither company is scummy or shady, delays happen all the time. I am not confusing anything, you made a claim that was baseless and now you are trying to make it work, it does not.
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FeiRR
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You are okay with that?
I think this generation is strange in that sense.
Personally, I'm not really buying a PS4 because I need the new PS4 only games. I could play The Witness on PC, and MGS:GZ on PS3, etc, I would be fine not moving generation just yet, but ultimately, I don't gain from that. It just means I play a worse version of all the multiplatform games I want to play until I 'upgrade'.
This generation is unique in that sense. Cross-generation releases have made the new consoles less desirable, but more practical, than previously for me. I'm not at all excited about the PS4, but I can't think of any reason not to buy one.
I think the concerns are unwarranted realistically, not that I think you're at fault to have them.
We have no reason to think the WatchDogs delay was about the PS4 version, on the contrary, it's market positioning was terrible, GTA just raised the bar for the genre obscenely, and Ubi finally realized it was coming at the wrong time.
DriveClub's delay is probably not really about the PS4 either. Motorstorm shipped with serious birth defects, it took months to get even basic features patched in. DriveClub was also coming at a moronic time, against Gran Turismo 6.
It looks bad, but the PS4 isn't at fault with these delays, poor market analysis and rushed software is.
second trailer on the page
http://www.gamespot.com/videos/ryse-son-of-rome-story-trailer/2300-6415624/
Well there it is. Contrast seems alright, but Driveclub (and racing games in general) are new hardware showpieces and that will be missed from a first party launch lineup. I don't think it's a great trade off personally, but it's not like they're swimming in choices.
Pretty big misstep this late in the launch run up for Sony, not so much because the devs couldn't hit November but because they advertised the shit out of Driveclub PS+ free day one for months and now have to backtrack on it. I would not be surprised if their preorder numbers take a hit, news like this is a friendly reminder that these boxes are coming in piping hot and it may be better just to wait it out if the games aren't there yet.
Pretty big misstep this late in the launch run up for Sony, not so much because the devs couldn't hit November but because they advertised the shit out of Driveclub PS+ free day one for months and now have to backtrack on it. I would not be surprised if their preorder numbers take a hit, news like this is a friendly reminder that these boxes are coming in piping hot and it may be better just to wait it out if the games aren't there yet.
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Glorified G
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I think this the 'concern trolls' that the thread title is referring to if anyone is confused. Several posts in a thread about an unreleased console you had no interest in due to a lineup you felt was already disappointing.
uncharted86
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Static Jak
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Comparing PGR3 and Most Wanted just because they loosely fall under the category of "racer" is all sorts of wrong. Most Wanted was a brilliant arcade racer, probably the best in the series.
I never said COD2 wasn't great, but it was one game and was largely it for a while when it came to big AAA games. Kameo is a good example of a game that just faded away quickly as the big titles started coming out for the 360 after launch. It's likely what'll happen to Knack. A decent game that isn't going to blow minds and'll just fade away. Same for Amped, hardly a big seller to a big audience and something I hear no one talk about.
Most games at launch sunk into the shadows when the real meat of the platform started to show up. Halo 3, Mass Effect, Forza 2, Bioshock, Gears of War and so on. Most of those came out in the same year. The initial release is barely a warm up.
This coming gen has got big multiplat franchises coming out at launch and to think the likes of Knack or Ryse or Drive Club could even compete against COD, BF4, Fifa or AC4 is nuts. COD alone will outsell every game by a mile.
And I'm sure you won't be here much longer.