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Driving with lack of sleep?

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So I almost up for 24 hours, not by choice (insomnia is a bitch, especially the night before a test). But I have to drive home from college today around an hour and half drive, some highways. By the time I will drive home, I will have been up for 30 hours. I shouldn't have a problem with dozing off. But, I have read all of the reports of driving with sleep deprivation being the equivalent of driving under the influence of alcohol. Will caffeine help my motor skills (no pun intended)?
 
HowardRoark said:
I don't exactly have a choice... my college kicks us out of the dorms at 6:00 PM. It's like a $250 fine if you stay past that.

I don't see how that compares to what could happen if you're driving after 30 hours without sleep.
 
I have been in that situation for more then a year back in 2006-7.
I was abducted by WoW and had a job at the same time. Job was 35 miles away from home, most of it on the driveway.

Now let me tell you, driving back home on a driveway that you have been driving on for a couple of years with no more then 5 hours of sleep in your body is indeed worst then being completly drunk at the wheel.

I since got cured of my WoW addiction but I know very well I have put my life in danger countless time. I'm talking about completly loosing sight of the road for a couple of second. Reaction to people slowing in front of me or changing lane was always fucked up. Thank god sometimes when you are near crashing in others car, you get a kick of adrenaline that gives you some sort of aweraness.

None of the usual trick will do anything good if you are very sleepy. They are only temporary solutions and somehow at some point, you will just not have the time to apply one of them before loosing your grasp on the awereness. Its when you don't remember the last 5 miles of road that you know you are fucked and putting your life and the life of others in jeopardy.

Good luck to you and the people driving by you if you indeed decide to take that chance. I know I will never drive again in that state. I'm taking the bus these days anyway. Sleeping in the bus is pretty safe :D
 
How far do you have to drive? You can always pull over at a rest stop and take a nap if you have to. I don't recommend driving on no sleep though. I haven't been in an accident myself from doing this but I've come very close to falling asleep at the wheel and that was on only 24 hours without sleep. Its not something I'm going to be trying again.
 
Sleep before you drive dude. Seriously. At 30hrs of being awake your judgement and reflexes are incredibly impaired.
 
I drove 20 hours in two days once on maybe 4 hours of sleep. Worst decision I ever made. I didn't fall asleep at the wheel, but it is not easy to drive and was dangerous for me and everyone around me. I will never ever do it again. Take the advice of pulling over at a rest stop and taking a little nap. Just make sure you lock your doors, crazy things happen at those rest stops. :p
 
Machado said:
how much is a hotel room for one night?
and a hooker
??

You know this is probably the most rational thing to do (minus hooker), since it would be the safest and most cost effective.

I'm at least going to take an hour nap before driving, at the bare minimum. But that's still not great.

How about I test my reflexes before driving by taking a few laps around Wipeout HD on Phantom? That might be pretty indicative of my performance on the road.
 
HowardRoark said:
I don't exactly have a choice... my college kicks us out of the dorms at 6:00 PM. It's like a $250 fine if you stay past that.
Can't you stay in a cheap hotel overnight or something? Cheaper than the fine and minimal risk of death for you and whomever you might hit.

If you must drive, caffeine, loud music, open windows, singing/talking to yourself, etc. There's also the old salesman's trick of trapping your hair in the sunroof to jerk you awake if you nod off. No idea if that actually works, though :lol
 
I fell asleep on the highway once while driving. A destroyed car and a reckless driving ticket later, I learned my lesson.
 
Worst case scenario?

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It help for a while...
 
My father use to work two jobs, farming during the day and a night job. Guy would get maybe.. maybe 2 - 4 hours of sleep a day, it was insane, sometimes he would go up to 2 days without sleeping. This went on for years.

He use to pop those little no dose caffeine pills like Candy and it still didn't help much.

If you were asking him he would tell you that you could make it given your youth, that you don't do it all the time and some pills.

However, since your asking me and I've seen the results of my father wrecking the family car (totalled), my truck (twice) and flipping a fucking tractor out on the highway( I was following him in a truck and saw that one scray as fuck) due to lack of sleep I'm telling you not to do it. Those are only the accidents I know of for sure I know he has had many other close calls.. running off the road etc.

Don't do it man, sleep or at least nap in your car at a rest area for a couple of hours.
 
From my experience, don't do it. I luckily didn't crash but it was one of the stupidest things I've ever done. The whole 2 hrs felt more like a 5 minute trip home from what I remember of it.
 
Don't do it man. I moved to Columbus from Chicago a couple years back and used to go back home occasionally on weekends. There was nothing scarier than making that 6 hour drive not fully rested (ie I had gotten sleep but I was still worn out from the work week prior). One time I drank 3 red bulls and munched on jalapeno sunflower seeds (assuming the spice would keep me awake) and I think I started tripping. Don't do it. A hotel is cheaper than $250.

edit: Nevermind I just noticed the Atlas Shrugged avatar. You will actually drive better without sleep! Have fun!
 
HowardRoark said:
I don't exactly have a choice... my college kicks us out of the dorms at 6:00 PM. It's like a $250 fine if you stay past that.
Sleep in your car for eight hours prior to driving home. I've done it multiple times.

What your planning to do is ridiculous to the point that I'd probably be kicking your sleepy ass if you were telling us this in person.
 
Bulla564 said:
Worst case scenario?

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It help for a while...
When Dark Knight came out, I agreed to see it again with my friend who hadn't seen it for a 3:30 AM showing. THREE THIRTY AM!

I had never had one of those 5 hour energy things, but I was determined to see this fine film again. I go to the WaWa and nab me the biggest slushie cup they have (like 48 oz or something stupid big) and fill it with Vault energy drink slush. I then go to the counter and buy one of those 5 hour energy things.

I go outside and I suck down the 5 hour energy, start sucking down my slurpee and begin my drive to the theatre (about a 45 minute drive). I gotta say...that was the best car ride ever :lol

I was zipping between everyone, music blasting hardcore and my singing like a moron the entire way. Easily the best car ride ever. The scary part is that I was completely alert and agile, so I wasn't at all a danger to anyone (in my opinion, I'm sure others would disagree, and perhaps rightfully so).

So I can say that that particular combination not only got me to the movie, I was able to stay awake for the entire film, and drive home safely.

Other times I've had to drive long distances on very little sleep and it's EXTREMELY dangerous. I'll find myself zoning out. Drifting off the road. Getting shocked when I'm up on someone. I try blasting music. I try singing to the music. I literally slap myself. These are only temporary solutions. It got so bad one trip that I pulled off at a rest stop and slept for an hour in the parking lot. Easily the best decision of my life.
 
RubxQub said:
I've had to drive long distances on very little sleep and it's EXTREMELY dangerous. I'll find myself zoning out. Drifting off the road. Getting shocked when I'm up on someone. I try blasting music. I try singing to the music. I literally slap myself. These are only temporary solutions. It got so bad one trip that I pulled off at a rest stop and slept for an hour in the parking lot. Easily the best decision of my life.
When I'm driving and feel my eyelids getting heavy, I'll stop and get a candy bar or some gum. Sugar and the act of chewing will keep you very alert for short boring drives.

I would never do this with a drive longer than 30 minutes though.
 
Just take a couple hour nap in the parking lot before you leave. An hour and a half drive isn't much of anything, so leaving at 9 or 10 instead of 6 won't change much
 
Thread reminds me of my most epic, bastard couple of days. I was basically moving house, going interstate. This is ordinarily a 14 hour drive, not exactly a zip around the block. I'm up at around 7 am on the day we're due to leave (monday), my parents fuck around all day packing and organizing and we don't leave till around 5pm that afternoon. They leave together and I follow in my car. Only now, after being awake for 10 hours already, does what I believe to be my epic 14 hour trip begin.

Fast forward to around 6am the following morning and driving all night and morning. I've done well but fatigue is now starting to take its toll. I'm now finding it quite difficult to remain alert and awake. All that stuff you've heard about microsleeps? Dozing off at the wheel for about one second? It's all true. Even worse, I'm now on the outskirts of a major city so I'm hitting peak hour traffic at this time. This is dangerous and stupid and I can't continue like this. I pull over from time to time and try to rest a bit but I can't sleep in the car. I get food and refreshments and this helps me push on, only being a few hours from my destination now. About an hour and a half from my target fatigue hits again and I realize I need to stop and rest again for a while as it's too dangerous to continue. This is now about 8am and after I've rested a bit I try to start my car back up. She's dead. I try again and again, no luck.

I'm in the middle of nowhere but fortunately I do have this roadside insurance service I'm in so I call them wait an hour from them to come out to check my car. The guy basically says the car probably needs a new starter motor so it needs to be towed to the nearby mechanic. I wait another hour for a tow truck and the car is taken to a nearby town. It's now around 11am Wednesday morning. I've since lost contact with my parents since the mobile coverage is shit in this area and haven't spoken with them since before my car fucked up. After my car is dropped off at the mechanic the wait begins, they say come back at 3pm while they work on it. There's nothing for me to do but wander around the town for several hours. I quite wide awake right now and couldn't sleep if I wanted to, and fuck did I want to. I finally do get in contact with my parents and let them know what's going on before I'm cut off.

I go back at around 3pm, it's not the starter motor it's the air conditioning compressor. Boom, $1000 right there, and they won't have the part to the following day. They say I can stay at a nearby motel but I figure fuck that, I want to get to where I supposed to be going and that's that. I ask about public transport options but that isn't going to happen as the place i'm going is too remote. The only option is to hire a car, but this is also problematic. The nearest hire car place is in another town about 15 mins drive away so I need a taxi to get there. It's around 4pm now and they shut at 5pm, and after I get the car I have to come back and load the stuff from my car into the hire car (I am moving house remember) and they shut at 5pm too. It's going to be a shit fight. After calling the taxi I make it to the hire car place with 15 mins to spare, I race back to the mechanic where thankfully one guy stayed back an extra 15 mins so I could grab my stuff. I toss everything I can possibly fit into the hire car (it isn't as big so I can't take everything) and drive off around the corner so I can reorganize everything.

After this is done I drive the hour and a half necessary to finally, finally reach my destination. It's now around 9pm. I finally get to sleep around midnight. The 40+ hour saga comes to an end at last. I drop the hire car off and pick my car up a few days later less about a thousand bucks.
 
Bad idea. I don't have time for the whole story but I drove under extreme sleep depravation once and almost killed myself and two others. Luckily we ended upside down in a ditch on the right side of the road, if I had drifted left as I fell asleep I would have driven us off a 40 foot cliff. Please be safe.
 
I had a similar situation about a month ago. I had been up for at least 40 hours finishing up all my assignments before spring break, and then I had to drive for 6 hours back home. All I had to eat or drink during the trip was a bag of Chex Mix. I do not recommend doing this. The first hour on the road I'd black out for half a second every few minutes and I repeatedly thought to myself "This is not a good decision." The backs of cars would morph into big, red-eyed gremlins in my mind. One thing I've noticed about being sleep deprived is that everything seems to take a humanoid shape. I thought about pulling off and sleeping many times, but never actually did it. After a while I found a way to keep myself alert, which was to blast the music and dance. That kept me awake until I picked up my sister about 3 hours in, and she was entertaining enough that I felt wide awake for the rest of the trip.

Like I said: I wouldn't recommend it. I know I'll never do something like that again. The only thing I have used to combat sleep that has worked for me in the past is that 5-hour energy stuff, so try taking some of that if you can get it.
 
Powernap = A bottle of Mountain Dew (or Bawls) then a quick nap. When you wake up, the caffeine should kick in and give you enough energy to drive home.
 
Drink some coffee black and you should be ok.

I have terrible insomnia as well and that's why I drink. When I was like 17 I fell asleep at the wheel and crashed, luckily it was right before I got home so it wasnt too bad of an accident. It's worse when you have an automatic car, so easy to doze off.
 
you should avoid driving altogether, but if that's out of the question, I'd say just drink a Red Bull about half an hour before you leave
 
The worst i've ever driven is with 2-3 beers. That said, driving tired has been infinitely worse for me. I'd lose it for a few seconds, rub along a curb. Slapping yourself and singing only help for so long. This was only during the 20 minute drive to work. Just sleep dude.
 
You are scum. Is it really worth the risk of killing a family of 5 just so you can get home? They should lock you up and take away your license.
 
mac said:
You are scum. Is it really worth the risk of killing a family of 5 just so you can get home ? They should lock you up and take away your license.
Not as offended by this topic, but the bolded part is important.
 
Dont drive, but if you do and start to feel confy and sleepy put the air conditioning on. Make sure your nipples are so hard you could use them to split diamonds.
 
mac said:
You are scum. Is it really worth the risk of killing a family of 5 just so you can get home? They should lock you up and take away your license.
:lol :lol chill out,you've most likely driven when you were drowsy and it only takes like 2 seconds of sleeping while driving to kill a family of 5. it's not like he is doing it, he would have otherwise not have asked if he didn't think there was a risk.

And I recommend going to a hotel or something.
 
I dozed off for less than 10 seconds while driving to work once. When I woke up I was right about to rear end somebody. Luckily i shouted FUCK, veered to the right, and that was that. Protip: don't do it :(
 
Zozz said:
:lol :lol chill out,you've most likely driven when you were drowsy and it only takes like 2 seconds of sleeping while driving to kill a family of 5. it's not like he is doing it, he would have otherwise not have asked if he didn't think there was a risk.

And I recommend going to a hotel or something.

Drowsy? My bad, I thought he had a sample of wine and needed to get home. Gaf doesn't care about driving drowsy so whatever.
 
About a year ago I had a seizure while driving, probably brought on by sleep deprivation. I was on the freeway and nearly took out a mother and her young son. It's one of the worst experiences of my life, and I'd hate to see something like that happen to anyone else (or see anyone hurt because of it).

Get some rest.
 
mac said:
Drowsy? My bad, I thought he had a sample of wine and needed to get home. Gaf doesn't care about driving drowsy so whatever.
well anyone who has any form of sleep deprivation can easily cause an accident. whether you feel a bit tired or you've been awake for 30 hrs.
 
I vote getting a $60 or $80 or whatever motel room in the area. Whenever I tried this I would always find myself getting up to 95/105 mph without realizing it, and if there were other cars on the road (rare) I often tried to change lanes INTO them and had to be honked at a lot.

Also, check with your Residential office, cause a lot of the time they have a wing of a dorm for accommodating kids who are international students or whatever and need to wait another day to catch a plane. If you explain "I haven't slept in 30 hours and I don't feel safe driving" it's possible that they have a bed that isn't in your dorm room but is still a bed you can use.
 
I drove when I was really tired once, with my father and mother in the car. I had a couple of droopy-eye moments where I lost a couple seconds, but I always stayed on the road, I guess my autonomic nervous system was working allright. Tried to stay far away from everyone else on the road and I guess that I was lucky that I never encountered a backed-up exit, bad road conditions, or any number of other random events that I was not equipped to handle.

Afterwards the absolute terror of what could have happened if I killed my parents sunk in and stuck with me and I will never, ever do it again. At the time I felt like I 'had to do it' and that there wasn't another option, that it didn't fit with our plans. In retrospect, that was not true and I'm ashamed that I let social expectations bully me into doing something so dangerous. You pull over in the parking lot and sleep in the car, you find a motel if you have to, but don't do it.
 
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