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DS Lite and its Gummi Buttons
- Thread starter Sho Nuff
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Thanks for the great impressions so far!Sho Nuff said:
As for the screen, is the high contrast of the screen a result of the backlighting level, or has Nintendo fudged with the actual LCD contrast levels? If it's the latter, I would expect actual graphic details and color gradations to start getting lost, and I find it hard to imagine Nintendo would do something like this. So, did turning down the backlight level help? On a related note, I find the highest SP2 brightness level to be a bit too intense on some games. Anyway, thanks!
elektrotal
Member
if you go to asobitcity in akiba, they have three floor models that aren't tethered so you can get a feel for it. the best comparison i have is that the DSL is a NES controller to the ODS's Genesis, in terms of heft and how it sits in your hand. I personally had no problems with the buttons in my test runs on the demo mario kart they had. I will agree that the interior doesnt look as cool as the exterior, but in the navy unit, it doesnt matter, since the resultant shade is just awesome.
DarknessTear
Banned
Dashing and daring,
Courageous and caring,
Faithful and friendly,
With stories to share.
All through the forest,
They sing out in chorus,
Marching along,
As their song fills the air.
Gummi Bears!!
Bouncing here and there and everywhere.
High adventure that's beyond compare.
They are the Gummi Bears.
Magic and mystery,
Are part of their history,
Along with the secret,
Of gummiberry juice.
Their legend is growing,
They take pride in knowing,
They'll fight for what's right,
In whatever they do.
Gummi Bears!!
Bouncing here and there and everywhere.
High adventure that's beyond compare.
They are the Gummi Bears.
They are the Gummi Bears!!
Courageous and caring,
Faithful and friendly,
With stories to share.
All through the forest,
They sing out in chorus,
Marching along,
As their song fills the air.
Gummi Bears!!
Bouncing here and there and everywhere.
High adventure that's beyond compare.
They are the Gummi Bears.
Magic and mystery,
Are part of their history,
Along with the secret,
Of gummiberry juice.
Their legend is growing,
They take pride in knowing,
They'll fight for what's right,
In whatever they do.
Gummi Bears!!
Bouncing here and there and everywhere.
High adventure that's beyond compare.
They are the Gummi Bears.
They are the Gummi Bears!!
DarknessTear
Banned
maxmars said:That's great if true. My wife won't complain for clickity-click sounds anymore when I'll play at night.
You should be making creakity creak sounds in the bed. You will be divorced!
First off its not Gummy Bear soft rubber. Its probably the same exact rubber found on 99% of television remotes just round enough for maximum comfort. I knew the buttons were like this just looking at the pictures and I'm all for it. Sho Nuff your opinion that the rubber buttons = suxzors is not shared by all. In fact you probably sold a few people on the lite by revealing the softer buttons.
Also the inside of the lite is purposely matted to prevent fingerprint smudges on the face. I doubt many people will think it looks "cheap" just because its not glossey like the outside.
Also the inside of the lite is purposely matted to prevent fingerprint smudges on the face. I doubt many people will think it looks "cheap" just because its not glossey like the outside.
I think I might even prefer the matte shade of white, the shiny stuff makes it look a bit off colour and well....shiny n slippery. But I haven't seen it in person to tell for sure.
The white PSP is lovely and thats largely matte and doesn't look or feel cheap at all (ad its not!).
I agree that most things have "gummi" buttons these days, much easier to hold things down, much nicer to tap rapidly in say an RPG random encounter where you just want to skip ahead.
How do they compare to PSP buttons cos they seem just right.
They seem abit raised in comparison to the GB Micro which is a necessity!
The white PSP is lovely and thats largely matte and doesn't look or feel cheap at all (ad its not!).
I agree that most things have "gummi" buttons these days, much easier to hold things down, much nicer to tap rapidly in say an RPG random encounter where you just want to skip ahead.
How do they compare to PSP buttons cos they seem just right.
They seem abit raised in comparison to the GB Micro which is a necessity!
TurtleSnatcher
Member
Hmm.. I now am really excited for it.. THANKS THREAD!
I chose overnight shipping.. hopefully I get it on the 5th? D:
I chose overnight shipping.. hopefully I get it on the 5th? D:
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
How do you know its not from massive use? Is the other buttons, crossstick, select, start also soft? whatever "backing" they are using under the buttons are probably the same across the mo/bo.
BudokaiMR2
Member
Silliest thread ever.
Everyone loves Gummi bears, so this is a no-brainer.
Everyone loves Gummi bears, so this is a no-brainer.
Fried Newt
Member
Gahiggidy said:
How about...because it's brand new? This things have been in the stores for all of a couple of days. And this is Japan, not America--people do not (generally) go into stores and chew on display units or attack them with chainsaws.
You people just don't get it, do you? I know you want to love the DS Lite and have it love you. Believe me, I do, too. But the buttons on this thing suck in a way that buttons have never sucked on a Nintendo controller or handheld.
The DS Lite's buttons are NOT like the buttons on the Micro. The buttons on the Micro are awesome. They aren't clicky, and yet they're highly responsive. It feels good when you press them.
If you'd like a good simulation of the DS Lite's buttons, take out a soft dishrag and hold it in your hands. Now press it with your thumbs. Does that feel nice over on the left? Do you know which way your character should be moving? How bout on the right? Think your character should be jumping about now? Don't know? Well, try pushing it a little more maybe.
The buttons are not just "soft" as in "easy to press." They're loose. One of the problems is that they are oddly tall but narrow. This means that they don't just go straight up and down when you press them; they kind of smoosh to the side a bit. The D-pad is especially bad that way. It mooshes all over the place, so I was never really sure when I was pressing it hard enough / in the right direction to be doing what I wanted to do. I'm sure you'll get used to it after awhile, but that doesn't excuse the fact that it's a piss-poor design. That would be like excusing the original GBA because IF I STAND NEAR THE SUN OR ANOTHER VERY LARGE STAR I CAN SEE THE SCREEN JUST FINE SO SHUT UP THE GBA IS AWESOME AND PERFECT!!!!!!!
Oh, and the start and select buttons are totally different. They are extremely clicky and hard to press. You have to put far more pressure on them than the other buttons and push them down pretty far, then they go "click."
Howard Alan Treesong
Member
It doesn't matter how beautiful a synthesizer's samples are--if its tactile response is too squishy and unresponsive, then it cannot be played. In musicians' jargon, this is called "excessive sproinginess."
Sho Nuff has actually played two of these demo units, unlike many of the Nintendo fans who are rushing to attack him. Every previous Nintendo handheld has held some fatal flaw--be it visual deficiencies, tactile awkwardness, or even a forgotten headphone jack. Why should the DS Lite be any different?
Sho Nuff has actually played two of these demo units, unlike many of the Nintendo fans who are rushing to attack him. Every previous Nintendo handheld has held some fatal flaw--be it visual deficiencies, tactile awkwardness, or even a forgotten headphone jack. Why should the DS Lite be any different?
CompositeMolar
Member
Seems over for Nintendo.
Oh and please more impressions!
Oh and please more impressions!
Magicpaint
Member
Yann said:
True dat.
Anyway on a more serious note, those sound even worse than the DS Dpads and buttons... that's not a good thing... Lite anticipation down!
elektrotal
Member
dude, i love how peoples opinions aren't just slightly swayed, but go from OMG I MUST HAVE ONE RIGHT THE FUCK NOW to HELL FUCKING NO WHERE'S MY PSP at every single post. Wait till the demo kits come stateside and try the damned things for yourself. Or wait till next friday and see what everyone who had to have one day one has to say (i'll admit, i've got a preorder myself).
personally, i tried a demo kit and didn't find anything wrong with the buttons. I played Mario Kart, though, so take that as you will.
personally, i tried a demo kit and didn't find anything wrong with the buttons. I played Mario Kart, though, so take that as you will.
Yikes, my must-buy just changed to a try-before-I-buy. The only reason I'd like to get a Lite is because it looks ten times better than the atrocious original, but I don't even play my DS that often anyways, and these flaws are certainly worse than poor asthetics.
And to think I actually thought Nintendo was going to get it right this time. Ah well. Impressions appreciated.
And to think I actually thought Nintendo was going to get it right this time. Ah well. Impressions appreciated.
Magicpaint
Member
dannie said:
Well, yeah, it's really a case of try before buy at this point for those still skeptical. For me, I'm not even selling off my old DS, just getting a Lite alongside it and with the significant advantages of the Lite, I really have nothing to lose.
BudokaiMR2
Member
Hmm I have played the Demo units also and I generally like the new feel better. I have really grown to dislike the original DS buttons, and especially the D-pad. I think these new ones feel more responsive.
Oh and for all the naysayers, show me a consumer electronic product that has managed to please every single person that bought it.....
Yeah exactly, of course you can't please everyone. Some people hail the Dual shock as the best controller ever. Some people are the exact opposite and call it useless and uncomfortable.
<shrug>
Oh and for all the naysayers, show me a consumer electronic product that has managed to please every single person that bought it.....
Yeah exactly, of course you can't please everyone. Some people hail the Dual shock as the best controller ever. Some people are the exact opposite and call it useless and uncomfortable.
<shrug>
Dude...the d-pad and buttons on the DS and SP are immaculate!
Here's a comparison of the brightness levels of PSP vs SP mark II. The SP is definitely brighter, so pretend there are two screens and that's your Lite vs. PSP comparison right there. BTW I couldn't find the contrast button on the Lite, it might have been covered by the thingee attaching it to the wall?
As much as I hate the sproinginess in comparison to the stock DS's, I'm just going to have to get used to it, because I'm getting one of these things (hopefully two) on launch day.
BTW, I think they were taking reservations for standard DS's in all the different colors, so there goes the "they totally halted production for the new model" theory.
BTW, does anyone know if Animal Crossing is keyed to the hardware? Am I going to lose anything (aside from my Wifi settings) if I move the cartridge across DS units?
Magicpaint
Member
Nice comparison there, thanks, is there any difference between the SP+ and the micro screens btw? Which is better? Or are they identical?
yeoz said:
Shit. As if the weeds I am going to be stuck with once I get back aren't bad enough
I think the SP+ is brighter as a whole, but the reduced size of the Micro's makes it look better overall, and I think the contrast is less jacked. Unfortunately my eyes are shitty from 28 years of playing games, so I have not bought a Micro yet, so this is based on my observations of Fried Newt's famicom version.
evilromero
Member
You understand gummi buttons are great for playing in bed, right? One thing I hated about the DS was its clicky buttons. It bothered my girlfriend. Now I can secretly game on into the night without her knowing.
Ha that's so true, I remember trying to play Match of the Millenium on a plane. It was so loud, I had to turn it off. I love that controller though.Sho Nuff said:Actually, the one pad I simply would not use because it was so frickin noisy was the one on the Neo Geo Pocket Color. HOLY SHIT. I literally could not play that anywhere on public transit because it sounded like a roller coaster lift hill.
Sho Nuff said:Shit. As if the weeds I am going to be stuck with once I get back aren't bad enough
I think the SP+ is brighter as a whole, but the reduced size of the Micro's makes it look better overall, and I think the contrast is less jacked. Unfortunately my eyes are shitty from 28 years of playing games, so I have not bought a Micro yet, so this is based on my observations of Fried Newt's famicom version.
One thing I did notice from playing my SP+ and my friend's Micro, the backlighting on the Micro doesn't seem to be as clean or even distributed. You see some slight artifacts when there's alot of black on the screen (say, between walking in rooms in Minish Cap). I do agree that some games have far too much contrast working and I tend to keep the SP on the lower brightness settings. Still, some games look incredible on it - FFIV and Minish Cap come to mind.
Rocket Punch
Member
Meh, if the D-pad and buttons are the same as the micro i should be in heaven. I don't mind the SP and DS clicky buttons but for comform I prefer the micro's.
DSlite FTW!
DSlite FTW!
elektrotal
Member
the dpad feels the same as the micro. at AsoBitCity in akiba, they have demo micros right next to the DSLs so i tried them both to compare.
Fried Newt
Member
huzkee said:
Right, those of us who have actually tried the thing and said that the buttons were very different from those of the micro, we were just screwing with you. They're actually exactly the same as the micro's, just smaller and shaped differently and made out of a different material and with a different level of resistance. So you should be in heaven.
AdmiralViscen
Banned
Does it feel like a Genesis controller? That D-pad was all over the place, and the buttons had some squish and wiggle, and I had no problem with that.
Fried Newt
Member
AdmiralViscen said:
Hmm...it's a little bit of a different feeling of looseness on the D-pad. But I hated the Genesis controller as well, so maybe you won't mind this!
AdmiralViscen
Banned
I loved the Genny controller. And I find the current DS' buttons annoying. Especially when you're playing at night, it's really loud and distracting.
I for one welcome our gummi button overlords (after trying out a demo unit).
I for one welcome our gummi button overlords (after trying out a demo unit).