striferser
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Dumb movie premises, plots
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elrechazado
Banned
Because in the 70s NYC was a cesspit hellhole we all assumed would be dead in 20 years.
Ignatz Mouse
Banned
The gold would have lost its induced radioactivity after like a month.
The original premise was to steal the gold, which is completely unworkable. Nuking it made a better story.
As far as the 10% Brain thing, that's just a detail. Premise of unlocking some untapped potential is solid, it's just the explanation of how that's bogus.
I'll go with Signs as well. Aliens invading a water-covered planet with no protection from it? And dead wife is somehow precognitive and leaves clues how to beat the aliens that throwing a glass of water on would kill?
Dumb dumb dumb.
I'll go one more, Die Harder. Made no sense at all.
Last Hearth
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As long as we're on the Lucy subject....
The words behind her say:
KEEP CLEAN 保持清潔，APPLE 蘋果，ONION 洋蔥，GRAPE 葡萄，CHAIR 椅子，TOMATO 番茄
So, yeah, this movie is pretty stupid.
The irony.
Deified Data
Banned
Agreed OP, "Lucy" seems really suspect. Not even Morgan Freeman's voice can lend credibility to that premise. Even assuming we accept the 10% myth, why would they store this miracle substance inside a container that could potentially leak and create a demi-god in the process? Movie seems full of plot holes.
TheSadRanger
Banned
I can get behind this even though I like the movie. Big spoilers
How did they capture all those monsters? Why were there so many elevators built to release so many monsters at the same time? Why did they have a button to release all the monsters at the same time? Wouldn't the designer's of the monster containment facility realize that's a fucking stupid idea during it's design process. Did an ancient giant monster awake in Sweden when they failed their sacrifice? Why were those Japenese schoolgirl ghostbusters OP while the Americans were fucking jobbers?
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
Attack of the Killer Tomatoes
Killer Tomatoes kill everyone and it's not very funny.
I was tricked into watching this because I was told it was gonna be one of those "so bad it's good" movies but I wasn't really laughing, I wasn't really amused either.
I'd argue that the premise for the prequels is better than what the movies delivered.
Especially if you just pitched it as "The origin story of Darth Vader, Obi-Wan and the Empire"
Killer Tomatoes kill everyone and it's not very funny.
I was tricked into watching this because I was told it was gonna be one of those "so bad it's good" movies but I wasn't really laughing, I wasn't really amused either.
I'd argue that the premise for the prequels is better than what the movies delivered.
Especially if you just pitched it as "The origin story of Darth Vader, Obi-Wan and the Empire"
GeordieMark
Member
Damn this movie to hell.
The premise had unlimited potential. The actual plot was seven layers of retarded.
Apologies for anyone offended by my use of the R-word
plasmawave
Banned
As long as we're on the Lucy subject....
The words behind her say:
KEEP CLEAN 保持清潔，APPLE 蘋果，ONION 洋蔥，GRAPE 葡萄，CHAIR 椅子，TOMATO 番茄
So, yeah, this movie is pretty stupid.
It's 2014. Couldn't they have asked their local Chinese or hired someone to supervise these stuff?
ThoseDeafMutes
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They are killed by all water, not just holy water, the Japanese discovered it or whatever? And they mentioned cloaked space ships (from memory).
Yeah they showed a bird flying into one and dropping to the ground.
America: Imagine the World Without Her
A story that questions the relevance of many of America's social and economic mistakes and questions the intentions of Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton in its fight to restore an America of several centuries ago.
After watching the trailer, I'm not sure it belongs to this thread.
Poimandres
Member
The 10% thing gets people up in arms because it's widely used and many people actually believe it. Everyone knows a super hero fantasy is unrealistic so lots of people judge them by different standards.
That said, there is ample evidence that people can indeed gain control of autonomous bodily functions, drastically improve memory skills etc beyond the realm of "normality". The 10% thing is just a lazy way of expressing an extreme version of this, and the fact that it IS a common misconception in the real world actually makes someone talking about it in a film more plausible.
Eminent scientists, like I assume Morgan Freeman's character is supposed to be, obviously wouldn't spout this kind of nonsense. But plenty of new age pseudo science gurus, some of them "doctors", most certainly do.
So I agree that using the 10% trope is far less ridiculous than your average super hero movie
...Wha? People can't get off the bus or the bomber blows it up. You're basically saying "shoot a missile at a busload of people".
Grizzlyjin
Supersonic, idiotic, disconnecting, not respecting, who would really ever wanna go and top that
Eugh don't even remind me. That movie was so dumb. It was trying to reach some medium between modern fairy tale and science fiction romance and it did not work.
aygomyownroad
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I think if you are able to tell the plot of the film in a single sentence then it is a good premise for a move...
Like Escape Goat saying: "Two idiots forget where they parked their car" you can break the story down.
Also Forest Gump "Simpleton talks about his life"
Like Escape Goat saying: "Two idiots forget where they parked their car" you can break the story down.
Also Forest Gump "Simpleton talks about his life"
Also the whole thing is some weird allegory for the Watergate scandal. Seriously Carpenter tried to sell the script as somehow related to Watergate. Also Texas Chainsaw Massacre has some weird Watergate connection too.
The 70's were weird.
Mohonky
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The Happening is definitely up there.It was the killer trees!
Far and away the single dumbest thing I have ever seen. So mind numbingly stupid. Even after the reveal of what it was I was like.....no, no seriously they cant really be going with that.
Yeop.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Actually the dumbest Captain America shit involves Hydra in Captain America 2. Can't believe how fast that film went from mystery/thriller plot to
nazi superscientists have infiltrated America over 60 years featuring a scientist who uploaded his brain onto 1960's vintage data tapes
Daffy Duck
Member
Titanic? It's based on real life events.....
And I think your dead wrong about Even Horizon.
Looking at some of the films you've listed, you must be trolling.
Inception? I mean come on, try harder.
DiscoJer
Member
Watergate was like an epiphany for a lot of people - that concept that a president could be crook just was mind blowing.
Never mind that presidents could start wars, bomb countries, send people to internment camps, all the crazy evil stuff spy agencies do. But somehow getting flunkies to break into a hotel was earthshaking.
Not sure if serious, Gravity is awesome. And you listed animated films? I'm not a fan of CG animated films but come on, you might as well put every animated film ever.
So basically you hate movies.
Tizoc
Member
Awesome movie ... but ... HOW someone would think this was a good idea for a movie ?
Also that Battleship movie
It was a way to showcase the rare X-Factor-like sickos that are in our world, and when one unfortunately becomes their victim/target.
I love the movie, but seriously:
GREMLINS
how does the after midnight thing work? what about timezones? or summer/winter-time? how many hours after midnight is it ok to eat? you know, like breakfast? 8 am? what about food that's hard to digest? or having something stuck between your teeth which he manages to get out after midnight?
GREMLINS
how does the after midnight thing work? what about timezones? or summer/winter-time? how many hours after midnight is it ok to eat? you know, like breakfast? 8 am? what about food that's hard to digest? or having something stuck between your teeth which he manages to get out after midnight?
What premise of Prometheus do you mean? That there are "creators" of mankind or that some science guys find evidence for aliens visiting us a few thousand years ago? I don't think the latter part is dumb, but its solution doesn't make any sense whatsoever.
Yep. Watch "Taxi Driver" if you want to see what NYC in the seventies was like. It's not hard to see why you could make a dystopian future out of this.
Awesome movie ... but ... HOW someone would think this was a good idea for a movie
Seems they let the script linger too long before they decided to do anything with it. Were there even any phone booths left in the city by the time this movie was released?
Might have worked better as a 70's period piece or something.
Dirtyshubb
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No offense (As you do like the film but i feel this point still stands) but its opinions like this why we don’t have more daring and out there stories in film/TV. Why does every single detail need some logical, real word explanation? Why can't you just assume that the things you have a problem with might not be either feasible or logical to our world but it is to theirs? I mean does everything need to be 100% possible right now for people to be able to accept a films premise? Does everything need to be 100% functional in a film or are we allowed some artistic creativity and originality?
In the same vein that’s why I feel a lot of films get bad reviews, because some people just aren't willing/able to look at something and accept it as it is, instead applying their real world concerns and ideals to it.
*EDIT: This isnt directly aimed at you really, more of your post reminded me of this point in general so once again no offense meant.
Both movies are great so over the top but Statham is on a roll in both movies.
suspension of disbelief is a real and very valid argument. you can accept some things because you buy into it but that doesn't excuse the movie/game/book to throw all logic out of the window.
its why we can accept that superman is an invincible powerful alien but acknowledge that its nonsense that no one can identify who superman is when he puts on a pair of glasses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIx7Ot5Mq2Q&list=UUI3GAJaOTL1BoipG41OmfyA
Damn this movie to hell.
I don't know what I expected. D:
afternoon delight
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It's hard to write yourself around these (I'm trying to right now) but some do it right- Alien, The Thing.
In general I agree though, like Battle for/of Los Angeles, I don't see how an advanced invasion force would leave anything to chance before entering our atmosphere. Independence Day actually did this well I thought in terms of 'they are waaaay ahead of us'.
Yes!
sixteen-bit
Member
Pretty insightful writeup on problematic shit in Lucy:As long as we're on the Lucy subject....
The words behind her say:
KEEP CLEAN 保持清潔，APPLE 蘋果，ONION 洋蔥，GRAPE 葡萄，CHAIR 椅子，TOMATO 番茄
So, yeah, this movie is pretty stupid.
http://redrobin.co.vu/post/82595826480
Blargonaut
Banned
Pompeii
Let's make Titanic, combine it with Gladiator, and replace the iceberg with a Volcano!
Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2
A bunch of weird cuts, several time jumps, and virtually nothing to do with the first movie aside from the first half of the title. Also, there's no book of shadows. We just put that into the title to make it sound cool.
Titanic 2
Make Poseidon but name the ship Titanic 2 so that people consider watching it.
Warm Bodies
Necrophilia for EVERYONE!
Let's make Titanic, combine it with Gladiator, and replace the iceberg with a Volcano!
Book of Shadows: Blair Witch 2
No, I will never stop complaining about this movie
A bunch of weird cuts, several time jumps, and virtually nothing to do with the first movie aside from the first half of the title. Also, there's no book of shadows. We just put that into the title to make it sound cool.
Titanic 2
Make Poseidon but name the ship Titanic 2 so that people consider watching it.
Warm Bodies
Necrophilia for EVERYONE!
poppabk
Cheeks Spread for Digital Only Future
Speaking of superman, the whole turning back time by flying around the world was absurd on the face of it even for an almost all powerful superhero, but also it is ridiculous in that you need your all powerful superhero to have time travel capabilities as well. It also creates a pretty big plot hole, because if he is that fast then the time travel wouldn't be needed anyway.
Ninja Scooter
Member
We don't negotiate with terrorists.
eh it was okay, it just felt like they kept on throwing obstacle after obstacle at her though, which is a plot problem more then a premise problem.
I meant in reference to how James Cameron pitched it. And alot of these movies I love, like Inception the idea/premise behind that is just outlandish and an excuse to build tension and set pieces. A pretty cool and awesome excuse at that.
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