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Dungeons and Dragons Online
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.hacked
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action based like Phantasy Star Online, you can dodge/block physical attacks and spells. Feels more like a real game and less like a math fight IMO.
IGN's got a good vid with dev commentary. Lets you know what to expect.
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/619/619908/vids_1.html
IGN's got a good vid with dev commentary. Lets you know what to expect.
http://media.pc.ign.com/media/619/619908/vids_1.html
MightyHedgehog
Member
It's more like an action-RPG (using player-controlled blocking and dodging...pretty solid combat and environment interaction, from what I've played in the open beta. I'll be playing it this weekend on the head start, as well. I like the more PSO-style setup and the fact that it's quest-driven rather than just about grinding mobs and repeatedly running instances or major quest areas, like virtually all MMOs are, IME.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
was in the beta, hated it.
entire game is instanced and yet you pay for it monthly.
entire game is instanced and yet you pay for it monthly.
MightyHedgehog
Member
ZombieSupaStar said:
What's the later questing like and what did you hate about it? Although I really don't quite understand why the game requires a (pretty hefty? WHAT IS THE SUB PRICE, ANYWAY?) sub, I figured it would be fun to tool around with for at least a month or two...anything to keep me away from the evils and tedium of WoW.
ZombieSupaStar
Member
MightyHedgehog said:
I dunno I just got bored of the beta about an hour or so into it, im just jaded against the whole fucking "slay Teh dragon mmo theme" give me a good blade runner cyberpunk mmo
/rant
MightyHedgehog
Member
ZombieSupaStar said:
I played about ten hours of the game and I thought it was pretty fun. I liked that it often felt dangerous and even a little scary (in terms of potential death from traps and monster encounters) in some of the Qs I did and that circumventing combat encounters was often as important as getting in there and choppin' 'em up.
I agree with your cyberpunk comment. Too bad Shadowrun probably won't ever be made into MMO form. But I'll take Shadowrun any way I can get it
Leatherface
Member
Wollan said:
This is what I'm waiting for. Any release date info on this one.
(sorry to derail)
wipeout364
Member
ZombieSupaStar said:
You could play Anarchy Online. It's free for the basic game.
Chairman Yang
if he talks about books, you better damn well listen
DDO is crap. The combat strips away the depth and balance of the real D&D rules and replaces it with an extremely generic combat system. The quests and setting are incredibly bland as well. There is absolutely no good reason to play this game, IMO.
I didn't like that the fighting is pretty much half PSO-like action RPG and half Everquest-like turn based.
The thing I hated the most was the totally instanced world. GW has the same thing but no monthly fee.
The treasure chest system while a good idea on paper is a disaster in execution.
Really no reason for me to stop playing WoW for a very long time it seems.
The thing I hated the most was the totally instanced world. GW has the same thing but no monthly fee.
The treasure chest system while a good idea on paper is a disaster in execution.
Really no reason for me to stop playing WoW for a very long time it seems.
To be fair to DDO, my friend, a wow player like me, had the same complaints that you guys had. After his first few nights, he said "it sucks". But he stuck with it, and now he quit WoW and loves DDO. I dunno, maybe it grows on you (like it did him). I'll wait for vanguard (or even auto assault).
Kung Fu Jedi
Member
Personally, I like the instanced zones. It's a good system, and GW uses it well. Allows you to explore/hunt without hundreds of other people around. I like some of the concepts of DDO, but for $15/month, I'll pass.
When is someone going to make a good MMORPG and undercut the price of those that are out there right now. $15/month seems like a lot to pay to play a game, especially if you have limited time to play.
When is someone going to make a good MMORPG and undercut the price of those that are out there right now. $15/month seems like a lot to pay to play a game, especially if you have limited time to play.
.hacked said:Look for morphix and warnen on Adar. Even have a ventrilo sever set up for voice chat
My made a Warforged Barbarian but I did not like him so I got my brother playing a human barbarian for me now. When he gets him back up to 1 rank 3 I'll take over.
Ok. I guess the official GAF server is Adar then.
You don't even need vent, the game has built in voice over IP for groups
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
Out for Mac?
Deadly Monk
Banned
The beta was okay. Thanks for the heads up though, maybe i'll check it out tonight.
As long as I don't get on FF.
I'm a WHM, they need me.
As long as I don't get on FF.
I'm a WHM, they need me.
shoplifter
Member
I played in alpha/beta quite a bit and didn't really care for it. I think that they really should have released this as a 360 title also, it may have done -really- well.
Once it drops in price I may be convinced to give it another shot. Not a big fan of paying $15/mo for what amounts to a bunch of instanced zones and a hub though.
Once it drops in price I may be convinced to give it another shot. Not a big fan of paying $15/mo for what amounts to a bunch of instanced zones and a hub though.
Open Source
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Wollan said:
The next MMO is always the one that will be the savior. Never seems to pan out. Even the successful ones are just the same old crap, but more polished.
The Waterworks is a level 1 sewer system (most people do it a level 2 though) that has several quests series and one is required to do to gain access to the Marketplace area of Stormreach. The level design in the Waterworks (with the Kobald Prison and everything) is IMPRESSIVE for a first level dungeon in a MMO.
Teknopathetic
Member
Interests me, but alas, I've already mapped my future MMO schedule out :/
Someone found the game manual in PDF on the website:
http://www.ddo.com/index.php?page_id=72
And the voice chat works perfectly. Makes grouping so much easier. I pretty much won't group with someone who doesn't turn it on and the guild I'm in almost requires everyone to use it in groups.
http://www.ddo.com/index.php?page_id=72
And the voice chat works perfectly. Makes grouping so much easier. I pretty much won't group with someone who doesn't turn it on and the guild I'm in almost requires everyone to use it in groups.
SiegfriedFM
Member
I played the beta and hated it. It has promise with the whole P&P style, but it's just extremely buggy and feature-less at the moment, as the early beta it is, even in release.
Also, does it still have the random treasure chests and quest rewards in retail version? Really clever move, that one. Hey, I can pick this 300gp armor and sell it or this 10cp broken club. Hmmm.
Also, does it still have the random treasure chests and quest rewards in retail version? Really clever move, that one. Hey, I can pick this 300gp armor and sell it or this 10cp broken club. Hmmm.
SiegfriedFM said:
Thanks to those random treasure chests and quest rewards I've made almost 100pp so far.
That's another thing great about the game: NO FUCKING GOLD FARMERS.
And if you mean feature-less by "no timesinks", that's what I like about it. There's no timesinks like in other MMOs.
This post on the official forums put it pretty well:
http://www.ddo.com/forums/showthread.php?t=2498
I also love there's already been "WTF you can't be level 60 in this game" complaints from the idiots who know nothing about D&D.
SiegfriedFM
Member
Rather few dungeons (playing them over and over - yay!).
Very barebones emote system (hardly anything I tried worked).
Very few races to choose from (doesn't D&D have like a million elven races?).
Logistics become complicated since there isn't any trade channel, or linking items, or sending items.
No tradeskills, or really anything to do except group up and quest.
Very strict requirements on how to build a group, which can be good or bad depending on your preferences.
No soloing, basically, for the above reason.
Really horrible user-friendliness for anyone new to D&D and/or online RPGs (D&D isn't an MMO). Can anyone please tell me how I avoid making my character completely gimped at start without having to read the core rules of the original game? And I think this is the major problem with it. It's made 100% for D&D vets, who, admittedly, are quite a big target demographics.
Very barebones emote system (hardly anything I tried worked).
Very few races to choose from (doesn't D&D have like a million elven races?).
Logistics become complicated since there isn't any trade channel, or linking items, or sending items.
No tradeskills, or really anything to do except group up and quest.
Very strict requirements on how to build a group, which can be good or bad depending on your preferences.
No soloing, basically, for the above reason.
Really horrible user-friendliness for anyone new to D&D and/or online RPGs (D&D isn't an MMO). Can anyone please tell me how I avoid making my character completely gimped at start without having to read the core rules of the original game? And I think this is the major problem with it. It's made 100% for D&D vets, who, admittedly, are quite a big target demographics.
Warnen
Don't pass gaas, it is your Destiny!
SiegfriedFM said:
I guess the no soloing may be a problem if not for the fact as you pointed out there is nothing else to do but group and quest. Group up!
SiegfriedFM said:
I never played D&D before and I did not have any trouble. My brother and I just played a few combinations till we fount a pair that could group and do well. It is not all that complicated, commonsense if you have ever played a RPG before.
.hacked said:I don't like the in game voice chat, lags a few seconds while the ventrilo server does not (not to mention it works during loading screen and any other time the game is not running)
I never had any problem with lag in it.
Going to try to do WW tonight since I still need to do the fourth quest in it.
Thread I set up in the Online forum for DDO:
http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=81618