Dictator93
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Dying Light Face Off PC vs PS4 (Hardcoregamer).
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The argument is crap because the same thing applies to PS4 vs XB1. How many damn PS4 owners will shout at the rooftops if they even SUSPECT that an XB1 version of a game might be on even terms? They demand boycotts and bash the developers as lazy and incompetent for not getting the most out of the PS4 and will talk endlessly about just how exactly how the PS4 is more powerful and has an undeniable advantage. Essentially, the attitude is the same - PS4 should always win, and if it doesn't, then something is wrong. Sound familiar?
Well said.
Jpeg compression shits over the comparisson btw.
In all fairness, I would be happy with the PS4 version, knowing how much I spent on the console and what the hardware is by comparison to the PCs achieving the latter picture. There are in theory low end PCs that are getting a better look / performance, but chances are they are still somewhat more expensive as an initial cost, for a gain in this circumstance that is marginal. Really the ball is in your court as to whether this sort of thing is an issue to you, or whether you want the experience, games and features of a PS4 or PC.
This shouldn't be taken as a "mine is better than yours" or vice versa, but just an ongoing look at the state of things out of interest. Nothing more. I find it interesting, that this sort of stuff simply didn't happen in previous generations, and that it can cause such virulent arguments. How this will change over the next few years is going to be interesting, if nothing else.
No idea, but buying a gaming PC off-the-rack will typically mean getting ripped off.
Im enjoying what i've played so far, but man the texture filtering on PS4 sucks. You can clearly see the line (radius) where it drops in quality a couple meters on front of the character. Its easy to ignore it when im running around outside trying to avoid zombies, but indoor locations i cant not see it as im searching around more calmly.
nycgamer4ever
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I have a strong pc and the ps4 and although I can tell a difference if I look real hard and know what to look for, overall the quality of the IQ on ps4 is very good. To someone who is playing the game and not comparing the two side by side it's hard to notice at all. The difference is certainly not enough to justify (for me) the extra price point for a high powered pc. This is probably because the developers just don't take the time/effort and money to utilize the full power of the pc though.
Im enjoying what i've played so far, but man the texture filtering on PS4 sucks. You can clearly see the line (radius) where it drops in quality a couple meters on front of the character. Its easy to ignore it when im running around outside trying to avoid zombies, but indoor locations i cant not see it as im searching around more calmly.
I'm sure someone more technically minded could explain this one, but I usually find AF to be relatively inexpensive. However, there seems to be a lack of it with the consoles settling for either bi or trilinear, and I'm not particularly sure why either
I think something like an i5 plus a 750ti will net you better graphics and performance in most titles, including this one. You'll still be playing at pretty much 30 FPS just a more reliable 30 FPS (or a nice 40ish FPS which would feel nice on a gsync monitor) and better graphics.
That's a $500 PC.
My suggesiton would be to invest ona GPU for a really nice bump up: better graphics, ~60 FPS, which should be a considerable upgrade to the gaming experience in this and all other titles. That's a $700-$750 PC.
Of course, A PC is a PC, not just a video game box. I think $800 for a small form factor PC (as small as an Xbone) is still the sweet spot right now for terrific gaming performance that leaves the consoles considerably behind, a tiny footprint, and the ability to do productivity software at a blazing pace.
derExperte
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AF can cost a few %, more or less depending on the GPU architecture, but them not even using proper trilinear filtering? Reminds the of the early days of 3d accelerators in the 90s. I'd really like to hear their reasoning behind this.
I guess if you're looking to purchase a gamign device in order to play Dying light, then yeah, it's probably not necessarily worth it... but most people don't do that. They buy a gmaing device to play a LOT of games.
And in the long run, PC will be not only cheaper than a PS4 (cheaper games, no need to pay for online gameplay) but the PC will provide a ton more options for you as time goes by.
Dictator93
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You wont find a great answer to that in this thread (technical thread). Check out the OT.
CyberPunked
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This is just sad for the PS4
Thanks for making this.
I still remember discussions last year about how the consoles will probably match high (but not ultra) settings in multiplatform titles for a long time, and how the only differences between the console and PC version will be resolution.
Truthfully, even I wouldn't have expected an early 2015 game to run any setting at lower than the lowest possible on PC on the "next-gen" consoles, but there we have it.
Insert salty *just a shitty developer* comment here
ClaptoVaughn
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Any mention of zombies popping in? That's more important than environment details, imo.
It's not a zombie apocalypse unless you see at least a few just mindlessly wandering around in the distance.
For what it's worth, nothing can (or hopefully will ever) compare to the npc pop-in of Assassin's Creed Unity.
It's not a zombie apocalypse unless you see at least a few just mindlessly wandering around in the distance.
For what it's worth, nothing can (or hopefully will ever) compare to the npc pop-in of Assassin's Creed Unity.
I've played about 8 hours so far, I haven't seen any zombies popping yet. Plus my viewing distance is pretty low but I can see them from a distance.
Pestilence11
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The lack of AF on PS4 is the biggest issue I see. Also I love these threads, they bring out the inner 13 year old in so many people.
Who are you alluding to exactly ?
Sans OS, competitive hardware (750 ti + i3) could be crammed into a $400 budget. If only a steam machine like that would come out to avoid having to build the thing.
Come on. You're telling me the PS4 can't render something better than that?
It's still early. As developers learn the tricks on both consoles things will improve, but right now most are going to be quick ports at low PC settings.
I thought it was already obvious that the PC version could look much better than any console. But I'm struggling to find anything so obvious that it pops right at you.
Since I don't have a PC that could max this game at 1080p, I have to say I'm relieved that the Ps4 version looks as good as it does.
Since I don't have a PC that could max this game at 1080p, I have to say I'm relieved that the Ps4 version looks as good as it does.
thelastword
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I really don't know what you guys are trying to prove in this thread, If the lod on the xbone and the PS4 are the same, what's the point? It just says they dialed it down to the lowest common denominator, hence the PS4 hardly drops a frame and who knows how good it runs unlocked albeit at 1080p resolution.
What strikes me as a bit dishonest is the level of hypocrisy amongst certain pc gamers here. Isn't the highest lod setting a framerate killer? yes, of course it is, so how many of those mocking the lod setting on ps4 are actually running this game at 1080p/1440p/4k @ 60 fps on their pc with the highest lod setting? Show me some screens with a fraps counter and your settings.
The truth of the matter is, what you see on the PS4 capture is what you get, it's the same for every PS4 owner everywhere, so no PS4 owner has no burden of proof to show how a game runs on his respective system. That is why I think it's now important that Pc gamers show their screens and settings and framerate to show that their rig is really running this game how they say it does. I could easily come to this thread if I was primarily a PC gamer and say all my settings are higher and I'm running 60fps at 4k, that would not make it true.
What strikes me as a bit dishonest is the level of hypocrisy amongst certain pc gamers here. Isn't the highest lod setting a framerate killer? yes, of course it is, so how many of those mocking the lod setting on ps4 are actually running this game at 1080p/1440p/4k @ 60 fps on their pc with the highest lod setting? Show me some screens with a fraps counter and your settings.
The truth of the matter is, what you see on the PS4 capture is what you get, it's the same for every PS4 owner everywhere, so no PS4 owner has no burden of proof to show how a game runs on his respective system. That is why I think it's now important that Pc gamers show their screens and settings and framerate to show that their rig is really running this game how they say it does. I could easily come to this thread if I was primarily a PC gamer and say all my settings are higher and I'm running 60fps at 4k, that would not make it true.
Can you point out the people doing this.
No. I'm telling you that this multiplatform game is running one of its setting below the lowest possible on PC on both "next-gen" consoles. I find that interesting, you might not.
Compsiox
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Why would someone even come into this thread if they arent interested in the technical side of games. Like damn.
So do I. lol. I guess i read your post wrong.
Check my post in this thread before you accuse me of anything. Thanks.
I'm just as interested as anyone else.
Because they want to either defend or pronounce their favorite console's strength.
I'm pretty much convinced that most people on here don't give a shit about the console's strengths and weaknesses as much as they like stroking their epeen when their system of choice has a bullet point against a different machine.
Projectjustice
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Thats actually a very nice treat for PS4 owners. Im waiting for a steam sell to get it though.
diablos991
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You might not have to wait.
Picked it up for steam in the BST thread here for $25.
I think the answer is probably that they couldn't have been, which is why they aren't
Sure, but not to this extent in early 2015. I'd say it's just as surprising how they chose they range of settings on PC as it is how it is set on consoles.Couldn't you have guessed certain other trade-offs based on the inclusion of Jaguar cores?
Had they, for example, made the view distance option go from, say, a bit lower than the console setting up to the current "50%" setting as the maximum, people would have considered the PC version far more "optimized" -- even though that is of course nonsense. It ties into my long-running point about PC settings and how they tie into many gamers' perception of "optimization", and how the way people derive an assessment on "optimization" really doesn't make any sense at all.
Yes, and out of all the pictures in the first page of the thread this picture shows it the best.
Some of the pictures are hard to differentiate.
Projectjustice
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Oh wow thats a great deal!
martino
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Lol...
Somewhere in your inner you, you must be really piss off by your loving brand to make you post such nonsense to defend it this generation
ps : pc performance thread is for you then.
martino
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Zero absolute equivalent
This is embarrassing.
Air Zombie Meat
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Me too. It's really obvious if you read these tech comparison threads regularly.
View them on your TV. The PC details stand out more. Though i didn't realise how a PoS the PS4 version was until i saw that zoomed in picture.
I guess thats a good thing.
Don't single out console owners please. PC owners are just as bad. If not worse.
So....We can't say the PC version is better if we're running it maxed out at 60fps ?
What about 30fps locked + much better LOD and AO/DOF (and possibly shadows and foliage) ?
Because I can absolutely do that on my system (4770k / 970) and the maxed LOD is "playable" but it fluctuates very wildly. Can drop from 60 to 45 just by looking around when there is a lot of geometry on screen. The game definitely needs a performance boost on PC but as it stands a PS4 beating experience can he had with ease. That's something thelastsword may have forgotten (or chosen to).
I'll come back with a few screens.
My settings :
Everything cranked as high as it's gonna go.
What about 30fps locked + much better LOD and AO/DOF (and possibly shadows and foliage) ?
Because I can absolutely do that on my system (4770k / 970) and the maxed LOD is "playable" but it fluctuates very wildly. Can drop from 60 to 45 just by looking around when there is a lot of geometry on screen. The game definitely needs a performance boost on PC but as it stands a PS4 beating experience can he had with ease. That's something thelastsword may have forgotten (or chosen to).
I'll come back with a few screens.
My settings :
Everything cranked as high as it's gonna go.
I don't even want to think about this,
As usual, these benchmarks/technical threads have me wondering what the landscape fo PC and console graphics/performance/tech will look like in 3 or 4 years?
I mean, I don't believe there were big third party releases on PS3/Xbox 360 coming out at lower than low PC settings bakc in 2007, were there? Now think about the gulf of graphics tech between a PC game and a console game 4-5 years into last gen. Extrapolating that to the situation now, I can only imagine that that gulf will be even larger, specially seeing how back in 2007, PC gaming was just NOT as popular and mainstream as it is today, or as it will be in 3 to 4 years, making developers more willing to add high end features to the PC version of their games.
I mean, I don't believe there were big third party releases on PS3/Xbox 360 coming out at lower than low PC settings bakc in 2007, were there? Now think about the gulf of graphics tech between a PC game and a console game 4-5 years into last gen. Extrapolating that to the situation now, I can only imagine that that gulf will be even larger, specially seeing how back in 2007, PC gaming was just NOT as popular and mainstream as it is today, or as it will be in 3 to 4 years, making developers more willing to add high end features to the PC version of their games.
Projectjustice
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What world do you live in? lol