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EA: Respawn's Game Is A Sci-Fi Shooter, Battlefield/MoH On Alternating Schedule
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MoH looked pretty good at times on PC. A lot better than what people think at least...
MoH on Frostbite 2 will look amazing given how good it looked on UE3 with sharp textures. My only wish is that they fix the unbalanced MP and make people actually want to do the objectives instead of sit back and use the overpowered (then underpowered, then back to overpowered once the snipers bitched) sniper rifles and just pick people off in spawn.
They need to make the MP more than just a cheap bulletpoint made by a small team.
MoH on Frostbite 2 will look amazing given how good it looked on UE3 with sharp textures. My only wish is that they fix the unbalanced MP and make people actually want to do the objectives instead of sit back and use the overpowered (then underpowered, then back to overpowered once the snipers bitched) sniper rifles and just pick people off in spawn.
They need to make the MP more than just a cheap bulletpoint made by a small team.
'sci-fi shooter' is pretty vague. Killzone, Gears of War, Mass Effect and Halo are all in one way or another 'sci fi' and 'shooter'. With their previous work on MW in mind I'd be most interested in Respawn doing realistic sci-fi. Semi near-by, might-be-possible-one-day sci-fi is so much cooler then another space marines against the hogs/scaly things/greys or another Star Trek space opera setting.
SolidSnakex
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Rei_Toei said:
The rumors before the IW blow up was that they wanted to do a futuristic CoD.
IoCaster
Member
That actually makes sense and sounds like a reasonable plan for managing the internal teams output while maximizing the sales potential of the externally developed properties.
I'm kind of stuck in a holding pattern on MoH with my playthrough. I've gotten up to the third or fourth mission I think, but my drive to continue is nonexistent at this time. I'm hoping that I can get motivated to finish the game sometime soon or at least before the next installment. :/
I'm kind of stuck in a holding pattern on MoH with my playthrough. I've gotten up to the third or fourth mission I think, but my drive to continue is nonexistent at this time. I'm hoping that I can get motivated to finish the game sometime soon or at least before the next installment. :/
SafeinSound
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Personally I much prefer this over the yearly CoD.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
D2M15 said:
They don't have to call it System Shock III if they don't want to, I'm just speculating.
NullPointer
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So wait, does this mean Respawn's new game is using Frostbite 2?
Anton Sugar
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Sn4ke_911 said:
BREAKING SCANDAL
How did two developers get the same gun into different games based upon modern conflicts?!?!
Neuromancer
Member
Guys of West and Zampella's calibur (like them or not) get to make what they want to make, I have no doubt it'll be a 100% new IP.twinturbo2 said:
Barack Lesnar
Banned
So if Medal of Honor's on Frostbite 2.0 it'll probably have similar destruction to the BF series. Won't it be tough to differentiate between the two? One would have vehicles I guess...
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
MoH is very underrated and sold well.markot said:
Ass.
<3 MoH, posts like these hurt my feelings. I'm sorry for the insult but you made me very emotional. D':
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They aren't even the same guns. :lolMr. Snrub said:
Same scope though.
Neuromancer
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One has beards, the other doesn'tHeavy said:
CamHostage
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Smart way of handling your franchises.
It's also hopefully beneficial to workers, since there might be less of that hurry-up-and-get-fired approach to staff management. Instead of having a downtime while the new game is being incepted, reducted staffers might be able to stay on and create assets for the opposite franchise. (It's still one game a year, but I think you'd have less turn-over and more overlap this way, not always stopping and starting again?)
It's also hopefully beneficial to workers, since there might be less of that hurry-up-and-get-fired approach to staff management. Instead of having a downtime while the new game is being incepted, reducted staffers might be able to stay on and create assets for the opposite franchise. (It's still one game a year, but I think you'd have less turn-over and more overlap this way, not always stopping and starting again?)
Jack Scofield
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DennisK4 said:
No, it was actually pretty terrible.
The game's stubborn adherence to "realism" and "authenticity" made it an absolute bore to play and only served to break the illusion when "gamey" moments occurred. You fight nearly endless streams of enemies (who have no regard for cover), struggle with performing even the most basic actions (I can't tell you how many times I've shot an enemy in the head and the game doesn't even acknowledge it), and are expected to be wowed by setpieces found in games released years earlier (an AC-130? Really? Did these guys ever play COD4?)
It was such a stunningly by-the-numbers game, strange considering how desperate it was to set itself apart in the crowded FPS genre. The game was an utter mess, conflicted and schizophrenic to the utmost degree, and filled to the brim with tired shooter conventions. I can't possibly understand how anyone could enjoy the game, let alone wish for a sequel.
I guess I just have higher standards than most people.
NullPointer
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Winner.Neuromancer said:
The games will be differentiated by their official grooming standards.
Jack Scofield said:
I enjoyed the game because it was a popcorn shooter based in a real world conflict. There were some pretty thrilling moments (like the level where you are in a burned out hut facing a hill with Taliban constantly getting closer and closer) that I enjoyed. The mechanics were completely competent (I played it on PC earlier this year, maybe the mechanical problems you experienced were patched out by then).
I think your criticism about realism is off base. It's not ArmA. If they are going to be realistic about the number of enemies, the game would take half an hour because there's only like 50 Taliban in the entire country and it takes one shot to kill them. Unless it also only takes one shot to kill you, in which case then you have to worry about tactics, in which case it's no longer in the same genre anymore.
I enjoyed the game (and CoD, Battlefield Bad Company, etc.) the same way I enjoy summer blockbusters. They aren't my Goty's, they aren't inspiring, they are just fun. It scratched my Tom Clancy itch quite well.
Edit: Thinking more about your realism critique, I find it more and more wrong.
Did the endless streams of enemies bother you about the World War 2 CoD's and MoH? Especially MoH Airborne. They're all based on real world conflicts, often based on real world units.
JCreasy said:
If you enjoy CoD, MoH type SP campaigns, it is absolutely worth $10 to $15 in my opinion. If you're tired of the genre, your money is better spent elsewhere.
Neuromancer
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If you like good, but short, single player campaigns, absolutely. I think this game clocks in at just over 5 hours, going by memory.JCreasy said:
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
Whatever it is, I want to see it in action, and I'm very certain that it'll sell millions.Neuromancer said:
(I have this idea in my head for a System Shock-esque sci-fi game, come to think of it. And because this is the Internet, I'm not going any farther because I don't want anyone to steal my idea and because I haven't written out the story yet. But it's in my head, and if the System Shock games show up on GOG, I might as well replay the games and get inspired.)
Rated-Rsuperstar
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squicken said:
Airborne was such a superior game. It's my hope that they'd return to WW2 or another time frame like Vietnam because EA doesn't need two modern shooters.
The Nature Roy
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Basically, it's very much a MW-style corridor shooter gaming experience, only based in a much more realistic setting than any of the MW games.JCreasy said:
It also features the most realistic portrayal of JSOC SMUs (Delta Force and SEAL Team Six) in a video game by a wide margin, if that makes a difference. Almost surprised EA didn't re-release the game with a new commercial about a month back.
I thought it was cool and have high hopes for the next one.
revolverjgw
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MoH sold 5 mil? Holy shit!
I got it for 10 bucks recently. It was alright. I had no idea it sold like that though.
I got it for 10 bucks recently. It was alright. I had no idea it sold like that though.
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I really want to see how Respawn's game is going to look.
Honestly, I don't really like sci-fi FPS that much. It's probably a good thing they're getting away from modern combat, but whether it will appeal to me is another matter. I love what they did with CoD, so I'll have faith until I see it!
Honestly, I don't really like sci-fi FPS that much. It's probably a good thing they're getting away from modern combat, but whether it will appeal to me is another matter. I love what they did with CoD, so I'll have faith until I see it!
Nizz
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Anything the Respawn guys are up to I'm all ears. Can't wait to see what they have in store. I don't play many sci-fi themed shooters. Probably the most recent one would be Crysis 2. I wonder if it'll be full on futuristic weapons or still have weapons that use traditional ammunition?
Good news on MoH being fully on Frostbite 2. One of the most jarring things to me was the different engines used in MoH. Felt disconnected to me. Plus they felt/played differently too. I liked how the MP felt like a lighter, sped up Bad Company but didn't really dig the heavier feeling in SP imo.
Now it'll feel more like a complete package instead of two games in one box like the first one felt. Maybe Danger Close were being trained on the Frostbite 2 engine a little while after MoH shipped. Their lack of knowledge with Frostbite 1 is why they didn't use it for SP no?
Good news on MoH being fully on Frostbite 2. One of the most jarring things to me was the different engines used in MoH. Felt disconnected to me. Plus they felt/played differently too. I liked how the MP felt like a lighter, sped up Bad Company but didn't really dig the heavier feeling in SP imo.
Now it'll feel more like a complete package instead of two games in one box like the first one felt. Maybe Danger Close were being trained on the Frostbite 2 engine a little while after MoH shipped. Their lack of knowledge with Frostbite 1 is why they didn't use it for SP no?
Bumblebeetuna
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Never making the mistake of buying a Medal of Honor game again unless I see it new in a bargain bin somewhere for $10.
The SP was good, although you had to fight through a lot of terrible enemy AI, terrible team AI, infinitely respawning enemies, and a lot of glitches in order to experience it. Plus like 4.5 hours long.
The MP was a butchered mess, controlled like ass, launched with next to no content and then they put out paid DLC like 2 weeks later. Screw those guys.
The SP was good, although you had to fight through a lot of terrible enemy AI, terrible team AI, infinitely respawning enemies, and a lot of glitches in order to experience it. Plus like 4.5 hours long.
The MP was a butchered mess, controlled like ass, launched with next to no content and then they put out paid DLC like 2 weeks later. Screw those guys.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Different tastes it sounds more like. MoH was one hell of an experience for me. I enjoyed it much more than the Modern Warfare games. As a cinematic experience MoH is one of my all time favorites in any genre. I can play the game and beat it in 4 hours (one sitting) and come out with the sort of feeling that follows a good action movie. I've done it a few times. The drama, action, plot... its all there. The game is always fun to play as well; the pacing was fantastic.Jack Scofield said:
And the game was far more beautiful than the CoD series as well. The art direction was very well informed imo. Realistic with a special attention paid to natural lighting.
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The game actually struck me as very un-Tom Clancy, which is why I think I found it so appealing. MW and MW2 are probably the most Tom Clancy-esque games ever. MoH is much more akin to something like Black Hawk Down. Some of the characters were actually based on real people. Intense.
~Devil Trigger~
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this x1000squicken said:
seriously, if they gonna make MoH a sad CoD clone, just forget about it.
Neuromancer
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Outside of one or two scenes, I don't recall infinitely respawning enemies in MoH.Bumblebeetuna said:
Neuromancer
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Huh, I thought you liked Crysis 2 though.Foliorum Viridum said:
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Honestly, who gives a shit about sub-genre? If a game is good its fucking good. If a sub-genre gets tired its because the bar is set higher and people release mediocre games in it anyways. I got tired of the WW2 sub-genre, I suppose, but MoH: Airborne was still a fucking amazing game.
As far as I'm concerned, feeling tired of a sub-genre is something of a false-experience. It makes sense when you think it, but then something like Company of Heroes comes along and makes you not give a shit. Because its awesome.
In the end, if a game is good, its fucking good, regardless of time period or whatever. Marketing it is a different story.
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As far as I'm concerned, feeling tired of a sub-genre is something of a false-experience. It makes sense when you think it, but then something like Company of Heroes comes along and makes you not give a shit. Because its awesome.
In the end, if a game is good, its fucking good, regardless of time period or whatever. Marketing it is a different story.
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Game is 4 to 6 hours long, I guess. I beat it in 4 and a half hours my first time, iirc. But I beat FPSs fast. I beat Killzone 2 my first time in about the same amount of time.Neuromancer said:
Ether_Snake
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Too much overlap. Should only have BF and whatever that sci-fi shooter Respawn is making.
BobsRevenge
I do not avoid women, GAF, but I do deny them my essence.
Definitely, though tbh, the UE3 single player looked better than the FB multi player. Sounded better too.Dipswitch said:
But FB2's engine is clearly something else entirely. BF3's graphics seem unsurpassed.
Speedymanic
Banned
teaser pic from their official site,
wondermega
Member
VG247 said:
Two years is enough these days? Are you kidding me?