TrAcEr_x90
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I updated my 5770 and had nothign but problems, I couldnt get a stable framerate in starcraft 2. After effects was all fucked up. I had to go all the way back to a 9. something driver. not sure if i should try this.
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LiquidMetal14
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Metro 2033 seems to have gone up 10fps. Go TDU2 today and it decreased the FR by half. Not sure if it was due to my system working but I was above 60fps all the time and post 11.4 and I'm not.
Heaven Benchmark seems to be running a little better.
Crysis, can't tell since I don't remember the area I was trying before the new driver. I will have to revert back and see.
Heaven Benchmark seems to be running a little better.
Crysis, can't tell since I don't remember the area I was trying before the new driver. I will have to revert back and see.
makingmusic476
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Sweet. Can't wait to try this with my 5750. I'm behind one driver revision already.
I hope I can finally get AA to work in Crysis. It's been crashing every time I try and enable AA since I built this rig in May. Forcing it through does nothing. It doesn't crash, but AA still doesn't work.
I hope I can finally get AA to work in Crysis. It's been crashing every time I try and enable AA since I built this rig in May. Forcing it through does nothing. It doesn't crash, but AA still doesn't work.
Dreams-Visions
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*slow fist pump*
AceBandage
Banned
Definitely noticing an extra 10-15 FPS in Bulletstorm on my 6850.
Femmeworth
Banned
Will this benefit my craptastic Radeon Mobility HD 3400 any? I just went through the trouble of upgrading my drivers the other day (oh what fun it was).
DeadRockstar
Member
I was about ready to pull the trigger on a GTX 580 today, but this is giving me pause. It'll be interesting to see if these improvements carry to Crysis 2 and Witcher 2.
Think I'll wait to see the benches in those games and make a decision after.
Think I'll wait to see the benches in those games and make a decision after.
From The Dust
Banned
this is making me go back over to the 6950 side. I'm already conflicted on whether to get this or a 560
MisterAnderson
Member
Came close to getting CF 6950's but ended up going with a 580 for nVidia 3d vision and a single GPU setup. Hopefully nVidia will stay on the ball with drivers... being with AMD for the past 3 years has had me disappointed with their driver support. Leave it to me to choose a time to switch just before they start getting their shit together.
DeadRockstar
Member
I'd like to see some numbers as well. When AMD made performance claims like this after the 5XXX series launched hardocp benched the new drivers, but looks like they haven't for these. At least so far.
TOAO_Cyrus
Member
My guess is allot of this has to do with AMD optimizing the new 4-way shader architecture.
Corky said:come on phools! Do these outrageous performance claims hold any validity
Not going to bother, shit Im running 10.something I think. As long as my card maxes the games im playing atm I see no reason to get new drivers for more fps I wont even be able to see. everything over 60 is just pointless to me. 6870 runs fine on what I got for it when it launched. Im not likely to even try a new driver set until games start getting choppy on me, assuming I haven't upgraded by then.
Maybe its just a hold over from the ollllld days of ATI cards, when the newest drivers were guaranteed to fuck something up.
brotkasten
Member
Great timing. I got my 6950 2GB two days ago and I wasn't sure if I should flash the shader hack or not, but in combination with this driver it could be a really nice performance boost.
Igor Antunov
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11.3 was a disaster for my 5850, fucked my flash playpack on youtube, made almost every game unplayable (magicka forced to run at some fucked up 320x240 resolution), and general instability where the entire system would reboot. Had to revert back down to 11.2, which has absolutely no issues.
I'll wait a long time before upgrading drivers again, perhaps 11.5 or further down the line.
11.1 was also plagued with bugs, i recall two worlds 2 wouldn't start anymore and other games kept experiencing crashes but thankfully 11.2 showed up.
AMD/ATI has nothing on nvidia when it comes to drivers. Nvidia is a generation head with driver sophistication/support. It always had been.
It's a damn shame too because ATI cards have always offered me more bang for my buck despite driver inferiority.
I'll wait a long time before upgrading drivers again, perhaps 11.5 or further down the line.
11.1 was also plagued with bugs, i recall two worlds 2 wouldn't start anymore and other games kept experiencing crashes but thankfully 11.2 showed up.
AMD/ATI has nothing on nvidia when it comes to drivers. Nvidia is a generation head with driver sophistication/support. It always had been.
It's a damn shame too because ATI cards have always offered me more bang for my buck despite driver inferiority.
brotkasten
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The flash is done and I'm downloading the driver right now.Pachael said:
Too bad I can't compare the performance, because I haven't played one game since I got the new card. :lolRazi3l at TechPowerUp did some benchmarks and it looks pretty good.
Noteworthy improvements:
More benchmarks here: http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142024Razi3l@TechPowerUp said:It did mention "Users should see a boost, particularly with anti-aliasing" so that's why I set AA to full in most of these games. I used the benchmark tool in all of these btw. I didn't have some of the other games, and I don't (like to) play Black Ops and it's just a horrible game anyway. I didn't use a benchmark tool for BC2, instead i played through Crack the Sky. For AvP, I played through the Jungle map on the predator campaign (5 minutes) and used FRAPS to record FPS both times and tried to keep it as consistent as possible on every run. For all other games, the associated benchmark tool was used.
Stock 6950 / i7 920 @ 4Ghz HT on
brotkasten said:The flash is done and I'm downloading the driver right now.
Razi3l at TechPowerUp did some benchmarks and it looks pretty good.
Noteworthy improvements:
http://www.techpowerup.com/forums/showthread.php?t=142024
woooow, those farcry2 resulsts are pretty astounding, it's like they bars represent two different GPUs
Guys asking for performance enhancements in 4xxx, 5xxx (and 3xxx, lol) obviously have zero clue about how a driver works.
These cards already gone through their driver life cycle and (I suppose) the current drivers maxed them out years ago. It's the 6xxx cards that were not being used to their fullest due to the drivers not making proper use of the architecture enhancements.
These cards already gone through their driver life cycle and (I suppose) the current drivers maxed them out years ago. It's the 6xxx cards that were not being used to their fullest due to the drivers not making proper use of the architecture enhancements.
The shader unlock itself for 6950 makes very little difference to gaming performance. What makes a difference however is the OC. Here's a great explanation and benchmark:
http://www.overclock.net/ati/909086-6950-shaders-unlocked-vs-full-unlocked.html
http://www.overclock.net/ati/909086-6950-shaders-unlocked-vs-full-unlocked.html
LiquidMetal14
hide your water-based mammals
Which is why these cards are getting a little more exciting to have and will make me feel less inadequate about not having the very best until early next year. I would be happy if I can run BF3 at medium settings at least.M3d10n said:
LiquidMetal14 said:
BF3 follows old-school PC upgrade cycle. When you had to upgrade every year just to run new games at decent framerate. It was horrible and exciting at the same time.
Also BF3 won't be much more demanding than BFBC2.
Guys, I need numbers man. If true, and the 6970 is noticeably better performing than my current GTX 570, I might just swap it for the 6950 2GB I have sitting before me. Went with the 570 mainly for CUDA video acceleration but as it turns out, I won't be needing that till at least Summer, so now I have big decisions to make.
ATI cards already have Photoshop acceleration though right?
ATI cards already have Photoshop acceleration though right?
Gram Negative Cocci
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"Up to 58%" is so misleading. Going up from 10 to 16 fps is still not playable, ugh.
RPGCrazied
Member
Anyone with a 5770 try these? I don't think I need them. Mass Effect 2 ran well at max settings.
Crysis 2 too, though I couldn't get widescreen to work.
Crysis 2 too, though I couldn't get widescreen to work.
Hopefully these will close the gap between Nvidia and ATI in Civilization V. When I was researching which video card to buy, and had just about decided on an HD6950, I'd see benchmarks of certain games, Civilization V being one of them, where the Nvidia cards just stomped ATI's offerings. Because of that, it was way harder to pull the trigger than it should've been.
TheLegendary
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Damn Catalyst just straight up doesnt work for me. I'm able to download the Driver by itself just fine and I have my 5870 up to date but no matter how many times I reinstall/uninstall etc, Catalyst just wont run. Says it installed fine and it shows up in my start menu but I click it and it never loads (as far as I can tell. It's not just the new one, hasn't worked in a while. 
Do you actually get benefits from Catalyst or is that just a settings manager of some sort, and the actual improvements come from the graphics driver itself?
Do you actually get benefits from Catalyst or is that just a settings manager of some sort, and the actual improvements come from the graphics driver itself?
DeadRockstar
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Catalyst is the name of the driver itself, but the Catalyst Control Center is just AMD's app to tweak image quality settings and the like. Not necessary if you don't like it. I use RadeonPro.