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[Cloudy]

I sold my ipad for a little over $500 and the seller fees + paypal double-dipping came out to about $60. WTF! I don't remember it ever being this bad and I've sold many big-ticket items on there in the past (launch-hype ps2 and ps3)

Why oh why won't Google step into the auction space?

 

[Dreams-Visions]

damn.

 

[NYR]

One could argue eBay allowed you to present your product to the widest audience possible and thus sell your product for a lot more then you could have got via an ad in the paper or craigslist.

 

[Oli]

ebay is basically a buyers market now.

 

[kehs]

A twelve percent fee that allows you to expose your used item to an entire country, without needing a physical storefront, no marketing, and the ability to do all this being naked.

You really think that fee is high?

roofles.

 

[Cloudy]

One could argue eBay allowed you to present your product to the widest audience possible and thus sell your product for a lot more then you could have got via an ad in the paper or craigslist.

Fuck that. Why not have a standard listing fee or subscription model instead of this % value crap. Also, why are they charging me again for Paypal which is a part of Ebay? lol

 

[IGotBillySoSpooked]

The double dipping is what kills you.

I've been selling all of my videogames and similar items on Half.com. The fees are still outrageous, but you don't have to deal with losers doing chargebacks through PayPal and the fees are only 15% on videogames instead of the 19-20% that eBay charges.

A twelve percent fee that allows you to expose your used item to an entire country, without needing a physical storefront, no marketing, and the ability to do all this being naked.

You really think that fee is high?

roofles.

I sold a videogame for $35 + $3 shipping and my fees were 20% after eBay and PayPal took their cut. That is a bit too much, in my opinion.

 

[GodfatherX]

ive only sold 2 iphones, and sold both on craigslist for the average ebay selling price at the time, no fees, no shipping, everything done in 20 minutes

 

[PalaceAthene]

How dare eBay charge you for letting you display your item to over a million people with a click of a button.

Also, how dare Paypal charge you for being the middle man on the money transfer.

How dare they. I will shake my fist in for your honor.

 

[kehs]

Twelve percent is kind of high for an amount of data that basically ends up being a picture or two and a block of text. Your average forum does that sort of thing for free.

Also, you have to pay extra on TOP of that if you want to stand out, because eBay throws everything out there in one big pile. You're paying 12% no matter how many eyes actually noticed your listing.

And again... fucking PayPal scrapes up a little more after all that, despite being the same company.

I'm not going to complain too hard about this, since there are at least plausible alternatives for most items (sell games on GAF, sell electronics on Craigslist, sell records on forums and music-specific auction sites, etc.). I'm just pointing out why I avoid eBay whenever possible. I think their service could be more fair than it is.

The twelve percent fee isn't for bandwidth, it's for tried and true quantitatively proven exposure.

The fees have risen, but that only means that the fees before were giveaways.

 

[BattleMonkey]

Fuck that. Why not have a standard listing fee or subscription model instead of this % value crap. Also, why are they charging me again for Paypal which is a part of Ebay? lol

Take payment besides Paypal? Paypal is also not just for ebay, it's used for many other transactions and is a separate service. Even credit card processors charge fees to collect payment for your business transactions. Like CC processors the fees on ebay can be altered depending on the type of account you make such as a business, the same with CC companies. You don't want to get a fee taken you have to go with direct funds like money orders (which has a fee lol).

And the reason they do it is because they can and people will pay.

 

[Cloudy]

All I know is that Ebay has a monopoly on online auctions and they need competition. Those prices would drop pretty fast if Google stepped into the ring..

 

[kehs]

All I know is that Ebay has a monopoly on online auctions and they need competition. Those prices would drop pretty fast if Google stepped into the ring..

We'd just end up with like 30 different versions of GAuction, that would never update the current bids before the auction ran out.

 

[Wario64]

A twelve percent fee that allows you to expose your used item to an entire country, without needing a physical storefront, no marketing, and the ability to do all this being naked.

You really think that fee is high?

roofles.

Yes it's fucking high.

 

[Juanadams]

You think thats bad? Stub hub is even worse, I sold my Ultra tickets for 1000 dollars and they took 150 of it.

 

[IGotBillySoSpooked]

ive only sold 2 iphones, and sold both on craigslist for the average ebay selling price at the time, no fees, no shipping, everything done in 20 minutes

I've tried to sell a bunch of shit on Craigslist and I always get nothing but low-ball offers.

 

[Cloudy]

We'd just end up with like 30 different versions of GAuction, that would never update the current bids before the auction ran out.

I think it'd work if they didn't half-ass it. They even have Google checkout already and it'd get way more popular with an auction system

 

[DR3AM]

That's way too much. Did you select any of the extra options?

 

[JambiBum]

You think thats bad? Stub hub is even worse, I sold my Ultra tickets for 1000 dollars and they took 150 of it.

15% isn't that bad.

 

[BattleMonkey]

I think it'd work if they didn't half-ass it. They even have Google checkout already and it'd get way more popular with an auction system

Other online auction services have failed in the past, and ebay just has a very good system in place (despite the fees) that it's going to be extremely hard to compete, and Google has it's hands full anyways with so much else. Attempting to compete with Ebay would take huge amount of resources and effort. And Craigslist has become the nice simple alternative for many.

 

[Cloudy]

That's way too much. Did you select any of the extra options?

No. The original listing fee was 55 cents. All the rest is final value and paypal. It's also ridiculous that shipping charges aren't excluded from paypal skimming..

 

[Wads]

How dare eBay charge you for letting you display your item to over a million people with a click of a button.

Also, how dare Paypal charge you for being the middle man on the money transfer.

How dare they. I will shake my fist in for your honor.

Shuddap, Jr. Do you also defend Ticketmaster?

 

[Zee-Row]

I prefer craigslist , you might have the slim chance of meeting up with a convicted rapist but at least if i meet up with someone and sell my stuff i don't have to worry about bullshit fraud returns.

 

[titiklabingapat]

One could argue eBay allowed you to present your product to the widest audience possible and thus sell your product for a lot more then you could have got via an ad in the paper or craigslist.

Yup....but I actually find that I make more money off of CL when the fees are factored in.

If you think the fees are outrageous, wait until something goes wrong on your end, as a seller.

It's possible that you might not see that money that went through paypal for a good couple of months and it happens more than it should.

Don't even get me started on this Best Match crap. Basically, you have to know how to work the keywords now, otherwise, your shit wont show up. AND the default listings no longer go by time ending soonest, further dragging you down the list if you dont know what you're doing.

 

[Zee-Row]

I'd also like to add that a few months ago i bought Magic Knight Rayearth , Shining the Holy Ark and Galactic Attack for Sega Saturn on Craigslist, all for $50. Best buy for me ever , they would of been over $200 on ebay.

 

[El Sloth]

What about Amazon Marketplace? I've never tried it myself, but I don't ever people speaking about having a bad experience in dealing with Amazon.

Buyers on the other hand...

 

[neojubei]

ebay is basically a buyers market now.

yeah this is why i do not shop on ebay anymore. Used to be a great place to find hard to find items for cheap now its just ridiculous.

 

[Ceres]

How dare eBay charge you for letting you display your item to over a million people with a click of a button.

Also, how dare Paypal charge you for being the middle man on the money transfer.

How dare they. I will shake my fist in for your honor.

Because there's a whole lot of other options besides paypal? Oh wait. Ebay won't allow any other online merchants like google checkout because they're greedy motherfuckers.

 

[IGotBillySoSpooked]

What about Amazon Marketplace? I've never tried it myself, but I don't ever people speaking about having a bad experience in dealing with Amazon.

Buyers on the other hand...

They have pretty horrible fees, too. Right around 19.5% for books and videogames.

 

[BeEatNU]

I sold my ipad for a little over $500 and the seller fees + paypal double-dipping came out to about $60. WTF! I don't remember it ever being this bad and I've sold many big-ticket items on there in the past (launch-hype ps2 and ps3)

Why oh why won't Google step into the auction space?

yessir.

They ripped me a new one.

I'm done with them, I'll stick to amazon.

I sold tons of stuff on amazon but I don't recall it being notorious as paypal/ebay.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

How much would a standard auction charge you? If they list your item at all?

 

[Trojita]

Fuck that. Why not have a standard listing fee or subscription model instead of this % value crap. Also, why are they charging me again for Paypal which is a part of Ebay? lol

Why does Verizon charge me an installation fee after getting a phone and signing up for their overpriced phone plans? Shit is sometimes incredibly retarded.

 

[BattleMonkey]

How much would a standard auction charge you? If they list your item at all?

Well it greatly depends. Auction houses will sometimes take items and charge anywhere from 10-25%. Many prefer to deal with lots and you get deals worked out because you are selling a large amount of items such as with an estate sale. Higher priced and rare items can also get pricey as you need to get with high end auction houses so you will sometimes need to get a separate agent who will get his own fee to help get your item out there to the big money bidders.

 

[TheChewyWaffles]

No. The original listing fee was 55 cents. All the rest is final value and paypal. It's also ridiculous that shipping charges aren't excluded from paypal skimming..

They take a cut of the shipping charges too? Wow.

 

[titiklabingapat]

They have pretty horrible fees, too. Right around 19.5% for books and videogames.

Comparable fees to ebay once everything is factored in, but as a seller, Amazon marketplace is a better experience from my years in selling online.

 

[RomanticHeroX]

Setting fixed price listings is a way to reduce the selling fees but because of this everyone does it and as a result everything on ebay is way too expensive. Ebay used to be a good place to find retro games but now searching for something like Lufia 2 brings up one auction and 15 fixed price listings for like $120.

 

[WickedAngel]

Amazon Marketplace is better but you're still going to pay for the privilege. Nothing is free.

 

[Bioshocked]

Why does Verizon charge me an installation fee after getting a phone and signing up for their overpriced phone plans? Shit is sometimes incredibly retarded.

Yep. Why did Ticketmaster charge me a "distance fee" for buying tickets to an event in another state?

 

[PalaceAthene]

Nobody's saying this should all be free, just more fair. If you're fine with it, then please, keep dumping the cash out of your wallet. It's not like I'm doing nothing about it. I avoid selling there whenever I can. Vote with your dollars and all.

You're just listing concepts. You're not actually outputting numbers, such as the 20% figure quoted above for a $35 sale. 20% really doesn't bother you? Especially when it wasn't always that high?

Or just not use it at all.

Using eBay isn't a right of yours. Problem?

 

[whatsinaname]

There's no helping it, though.

I sold 4 items over the last 30 days. I advertised all of them on GAF, a couple of other forums, and CL. (And I live in a fairly large college town). Two of the items were GPUs. The one offer I got off craigslist was 75$ for both cards. I sold the cards on ebay for 200$.

I sold an old pair of shoes for 100$. (No buyers on Craigslist). It was either pay the double dipping Paypal/ebay fees or not sell the item.

 

[Cloudy]

They take a cut of the shipping charges too? Wow.

Paypal takes a % off the entire payment (shipping included). Unless you overcharge for shipping (which Ebay has been cracking down on), you are basically paying shipping out of your own pocket on high value items. It sucks...

 

[Joel Was Right]

One could argue eBay allowed you to present your product to the widest audience possible and thus sell your product for a lot more then you could have got via an ad in the paper or craigslist.

It's an iPad. Not a cassette player

 

[Tideas]

so if u do'nt like it...don't use it?

Only by using it do you propel to them that it's okay to charge a high fee.

 

[GoldenEye 007]

Well it greatly depends. Auction houses will sometimes take items and charge anywhere from 10-25%. Many prefer to deal with lots and you get deals worked out because you are selling a large amount of items such as with an estate sale. Higher priced and rare items can also get pricey as you need to get with high end auction houses so you will sometimes need to get a separate agent who will get his own fee to help get your item out there to the big money bidders.

So that would be in line with standard auctions. Good to know.

 

[Husker86]

Paypal takes a % off the entire payment (shipping included). Unless you overcharge for shipping (which Ebay has been cracking down on), you are basically paying shipping out of your own pocket on high value items. It sucks...

They have been cracking down on that? I can't count the number of cell phones I've seen going for $100-200 with anywhere from $300-600 shipping. That seems like an easy thing for them to catch early, but like I said, they were all over.

 

[kehs]

Paypal takes a % off the entire payment (shipping included). Unless you overcharge for shipping (which Ebay has been cracking down on), you are basically paying shipping out of your own pocket on high value items. It sucks...

Paypal is a glorified credit card service merchant.

All credit card merchants take a cut of final pricing, it's standard CC business.

 

[See You Next Wednesday]

They have been cracking down on that? I can't count the number of cell phones I've seen going for $100-200 with anywhere from $300-600 shipping. That seems like an easy thing for them to catch early, but like I said, they were all over.

Yeah. I seen a lot of that too. $999 shipping.
lol

I wondering if people still get away with it now, since they are still be put up.

 

[Vox-Pop]

best bang for your money though. can't get the same price for used games anywhere else.

 

[Gatekeeper]

Learn how eBay, PayPal and business actually works before complaining people. All of the information is easily accessible before using these services.

 

[The M.O.B]

I prefer the NeoGaf buy/sell/trade thread