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Edge #258 - twenty years special, seven old games revisited

The fact that so many still play SNES games today is the testament to its greatness but yes it didnt come out in the last twenty
 
I actually like the console list and have to agree with most of it. Only surprise to me is the DS so far down.
Yeah I agree, they don't really say anything bad about it.. "You could take it away with you on a day trip and leave the charger at home. It was the perfect handheld. Maybe it still is"
360 had a smoother start with a worse end. Pushed lots of online features and DD games for awhile.
They more or less smooth over the RROD. But that's exactly what they cite. They say it was the lead platform for this generation and that Microsoft sowed the seeds early on in the platform's life making a lot of right decisions. It's not so much about exclusives even though they take a dig at Gran Turismo while praising Forza.
 
As a console (not looking at the games), 360 is better than ps3, but second best console ever? I don't think so.
Also, I'm going to predict ps4 will be the best console ever due to the genius behind its architecture.
 
I'm hoping there's a decent chunk of text for those amendment articles. Should be an interesting read. Even if it will make me feel guilty about only playing 10 hours of Dark Souls before slipping back into Street Fighter.

The covers are pretty gorgeous too.
 
The Wii was a better console than Xbox and Dreamcast? Seriously?

The Wii is the only Nintendo console I never really liked.
 
Ten amendments are lame. It's telling about a publication if and how often they hit the mark in recognizing certain games' exceeding quality and even impending influence, in the moment -- anyone can do it, retroactively. If after the fact, time shows they underscored a game, then they're incompetence and lack of foresight needs to be preserved for prosperity and as a mark of shame. With a game like Dark Souls especially, it comes off as jumping on the bandwagon.
 
Xbox 360 at number 2? What a load of rubbish. Its sold millions because people had to replace it, and the variety of games for it and original IPs have been poor.

PS2 as number 1? Im not so sure. Id have the PSone it started it all and blew away the competition.
 
Holy fuck, ds, snes and ps2 are the best systems ever. No way in hell is that xbox 360 on number two....
Will buy that magazine because i want to read those atrocities :)
 
Xbox over Saturn? My ass. And it not even being on the list. Complete fail right there.


The original xbox was everything the dreamcast wished to be...
Except for the games which weren't even close to being as good and plentiful as on the DC.
 
Happy that Advance Wars gets amended. It totally deserves it. Hope it will get its own cover in the next batch. I couldn't see the Advance Wars cover of their 200th issue anywhere.
 
The Xbox had Halo 1 and 2, just about your definitive SP and MP fps games right there, on top of including ethernet in the box when no one else did, a hdd and other goodness. The Dreamcast is great but it didnt hit those heights, same with the Saturn. Both great but in the end they became niche, sidelined consoles.
 
Ten best consoles of the past twenty years
10. Dreamcast
9. Xbox
8. Wii
7. PlayStation 3
6. DS lite
5. GameCube
4. Nintendo 64
3. PlayStation
2. Xbox 360
1. PlayStation 2

YES! Dreamcast gets 10 points! Suck it down lesser point consoles!

It reads from bottom to top because I live Downunder
 
Anyone know the deal with the revisited games? Have they changed review scores or is it just "yeah they were great, they still are"?
 
Happy that Advance Wars gets amended. It totally deserves it. Hope it will get its own cover in the next batch. I couldn't see the Advance Wars cover of their 200th issue anywhere.
It's Halo. 2001 was a busy year.
Oooh, I still have the 200-postcard set from issue 200, I wonder if they'll be doing the same with these 20.
Dunno but posters would be pretty bad ass for a couple of them.
 
That's...weird. The two's software libraries are 90% identical.
Yeah, that's weird; I personally prefer and own a 360 because of its controller and exclusives, but I'd say even for me owning a PS3 wouldn't be that different.


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Well, overall I strongly disagree with the list, maybe excluding the #1.
 
2. Xbox 360

After 4 dead consoles, Fable 3 flop, Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts and Bolts, no Blue Dragon 2, low quality Kinect stuff, I strongly disagree with this one and I don't understand why it's on 2nd spot. Well, guess Halo is way more important than I think for some folks.

Ouch at 101 and Killer is Dead.
 
And people call EDGE Sony fanboys lol.

EDGE have always seem to have a deep love for Nintendo stuff in my years of reading the magazine, especially the N64.
 
Agree with the first two consoles, PS2 made gaming accepted by the mainstream, as well as having a massive library full of great titles.

The 360 made online gaming simple enough for everyone, introduced an online store and had a great library.
 
Ten amendments
- Goldeneye 007
- Advance Wars
- Resident Evil 4

- Drop7
- Red Dead Redemption
- Super Street Fighter IV
- Dark Souls
These games are now, retrospectively at least Edge [10]s even though they didn't print the number they refer to them in the past tense.

This fills my heart with a warm fuzzy glow. Genuinely loved those games. Still do.
 
Ten best consoles of the past twenty years
10. Dreamcast
9. Xbox
8. Wii
7. PlayStation 3
6. DS lite
5. GameCube
4. Nintendo 64
3. PlayStation
2. Xbox 360
1. PlayStation 2

Lol, what a joke. Edge just lost all credibility.

Where were the industry changing games like Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy VII or Goldeneye on the 360? And what's the reasoning of putting it so much higher than the PS3 when the two systems share like 90% of their libraries? The more hardware failures, the higher the ranking?
 
Ten best consoles of the past twenty years
10. Dreamcast
9. Xbox
8. Wii
7. PlayStation 3
6. DS lite
5. GameCube
4. Nintendo 64
3. PlayStation
2. Xbox 360
1. PlayStation 2

Opinions and all that...

The DS should be #1 and the N64 shouldn't be anywhere near the top 20, never mind in the top 10.
 
Wait a minute. Are you telling me Half-Life 2 is the only PC title to get a 10/10 during this magazine's 20 year history? Oh dear.
 
That's a great opinion piece from EDGE. My top 10 consoles are:

10. Xbox
9. Xbox 360
8. Dreamcast
7. Wii
6. PlayStation 3
5. GameCube
4. PlayStation
3. Nintendo 64
2. PlayStation 2
1. DS
 
Ten amendments
- Goldeneye 007
- Advance Wars
- Resident Evil 4
- Drop7
- Red Dead Redemption
- Super Street Fighter IV
- Dark Souls
These games are now, retrospectively at least Edge [10]s even though they didn't print the number they refer to them in the past tense.

The great injustice of our age has been remedied.
 
Wait a minute. Are you telling me Half-Life 2 is the only PC title to get a 10/10 during this magazine's 20 year history? Oh dear.
+ Orange Box
Exile, Elite were awarded retrospectively.
Halo and GTA IV ended up on PC eventually. Same for Super Street Fighter IV and Dark Souls.
 
10.Xbox
9. N64
8. Gamecube
7. Wii
6. Xbox 360
5. Playstation 3
4. Dreamcast
3. NDS
2. Playstation
1. Playstation 2

Although you can make a case for the NDS being above the PS1. The NDS's library is so good it's not even funny.
 
Lol, what a joke. Edge just lost all credibility.

Where were the industry changing games like Mario 64, Ocarina of Time, Final Fantasy VII or Goldeneye on the 360? And what's the reasoning of putting it so much higher than the PS3 when the two systems share like 90% of their libraries? The more hardware failures, the higher the ranking?

360 was the first console with a solid online system in place. That in itself is bigger than any of the titles you mention.
 
Ten best consoles of the past twenty years
10. Dreamcast
9. Xbox
8. Wii
7. PlayStation 3
6. DS lite
5. GameCube
4. Nintendo 64
3. PlayStation
2. Xbox 360
1. PlayStation 2

Sound nice, but based on what ? Hardware, games library, exclusives, the "general" idea ?

My list is (obviously) pretty different :

Ten best consoles of the past twenty years
10. Wii
9. Xbox
8. GameCube
7. Nintendo 64
6. PSP
5. Dreamcast
4. PlayStation
3. Xbox 360
2. PlayStation 2
1. PlayStation 3
 
Great list of consoles. Some people on here have a hard time giving the Xbox 360 the respect it deserves. Great software, the best console online network ever, the best console controller ever, achievements( which almost everybody copied) and xbox live arcade. Easily my favorite console ever and i've been around awhile lol.
 
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