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Eee Pad Transformer - Tablet/Netbook super device

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boi said:
Does Honeycomb have a lot of apps? And how are phone Android apps on the tablets? Are they scaled up? Isn't that ugly?
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Buy an iPad if you want a lot of apps/games.

A lot of phone apps are usable on Tablet, but a good number of them will appear "phone-sized" while some others will make use of the full screen.

Honeycomb app situation should improve as its penetration increases. I believe game companies are already looking to build new games to support both.
 
Tomorrow things will get interesting when Asus shows their Phone/Tablet combo (PadPhone)

I still will be getting a Transformer I think, but nice to see Asus pushing the concepts.

Slashgear did a bit about it this evening

http://www.slashgear.com/asus-padfone-revealed-29155401/

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Amazon has 8 in stock. Better hurry.

Edit: Nevermind. As long as it took me to make that post (30 seconds?), all 8 were gone. They're expecting more on Thursday.
 
Mr Pockets said:
Tomorrow things will get interesting when Asus shows their Phone/Tablet combo (PadPhone)

I still will be getting a Transformer I think, but nice to see Asus pushing the concepts.

Slashgear did a bit about it this evening

http://www.slashgear.com/asus-padfone-revealed-29155401/

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What will be most interesting is if this is actually part of the Transformer line and can therefore use the Dock/Keyboard as well.

That would be beyond awesome.
 
So for those of you ho have gotten one of these, ho do you like it?

I'm going to attempt to get one in the next couple of months, but from what I've seen they seem to go out of stock pretty quick.
 
Truth101 said:
So for those of you ho have gotten one of these, ho do you like it?

I'm going to attempt to get one in the next couple of months, but from what I've seen they seem to go out of stock pretty quick.
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I like it. From what i read the new OS upgrade fixes some of thelittle htings that bug me so I will update them .

It pretty much kicks ass for business/work already (would probably be a better student device as well) once it gets netflix and more apps (which is already happening) then I think it maybe my general goto device.

Right now Apps are its strength and weakness. On the downside it doesnt have as many big name Apps as my Ipad, on the plus side it has a whole lot more hobbyiest apps you dont get on itunes (right now I am playing a small hex and counter wargame from a guy working in his garage in the UK, it doesnt exist on the iPad.

The whole device is about choice, I dont have to use iTunes (happy days) , I tend to use the Amazon App store more than the built in one and this kind of thing is encouraged.

Downsides are the power adaptor and the build quality (mine has a slight squeak when depressed and the power button takes a couple of presses to turn on (this maybe a software issue which maybe fixed).

I already have an iPad so for me this is a perfect device, if its your first tablet though I think the choice is harder with iPad having the edge if you are a general user. If you are more specialist then the Transformer is better already. My hunch is that by holiday of this year assuming the above issues get resolved this maybe the better choice for anybody, but we will see.

Hope that helps.
 
cartoon_soldier said:
Well, Padfone lost some of it's shine, as the tablet won't work without the phone in the dock:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/30/asus-targets-christmas-ice-cream-sandwich-for-padfone-launch-v/

Interesting concept, but I would rather have a working phone and tablet independent of each other.

The better news is that it is expected to launch with Ice Cream Sandwhich :D
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wtf :lol

Is it really cheap? Cause otherwise you're paying for a phone and a useless slab of glass/a tablet and useless phone? Thing is going to flop hard >_<
 
Hawkian said:
wtf :lol

Is it really cheap? Cause otherwise you're paying for a phone and a useless slab of glass/a tablet and useless phone? Thing is going to flop hard >_<
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Assuming they don't try to copy moto's pricing structure, it should be reasonably priced.

Anything more than $200(even that seems high) for the dock will be a hard sell. My guess is that it will be like $600-$700 bundled.
 
Do you mean unlocked...? That doesn't sound reasonable to me. Is the phone going to be equally powerful to the Atrix?
 
Hawkian said:
Do you mean unlocked...? That doesn't sound reasonable to me. Is the phone going to be equally powerful to the Atrix?
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Bundled as in the bigscreen with the phone together for $600-$700, or $200 for the screen dock seperately.

It'll probably be a tegra 2 phone.

The screen portion is just a battery/screen/port dock, it's not standalone.
 
I don't know, how much does the Atrix bundle cost? That has a keyboard and 2 usb slots it doesn't seem like this has. I feel like if it's $700, getting a $200 phone and $500 tablet would work better for anybody.
 
Hawkian said:
I don't know, how much does the Atrix bundle cost? That has a keyboard and 2 usb slots it doesn't seem like this has. I feel like if it's $700, getting a $200 phone and $500 tablet would work better for anybody.
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Moto/ATT wanted $500 for the laptop dock, by itself. Then they dropped it to $350 I think.
 
cartoon_soldier said:
Well, Padfone lost some of it's shine, as the tablet won't work without the phone in the dock:

http://www.engadget.com/2011/05/30/asus-targets-christmas-ice-cream-sandwich-for-padfone-launch-v/

Interesting concept, but I would rather have a working phone and tablet independent of each other.

The better news is that it is expected to launch with Ice Cream Sandwhich :D
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How is that losing its shine? If it was a functional tablet what would be the point in having the phone dock with it?
 
I posted this in the Android thread, but I think it's appropriate here.

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So I had my first issue with an app not functioning properly on my Transformer. What I didn't realize going in was that there isn't a discrete return policy for Android Apps through Amazon. While it sucks the Android Market dropped from 24 hours to 15 minutes (really sucks IMO - they should at least do an hour), at least it has something baked in.

For Amazon you need to click on the 'Report an Issue with this App' and select 'Contact Customer Service' and go through the process in the hope they'll refund you. Generally they will, but they don't have to. One recommendation, have your phone handy and select 'Call' immediately. I made the mistake of going by email. They end up sending you an auto-response for idiots - 'make sure you have the newest version of the game and app store ... reinstall the game ... etc.' You then have to call anyway - and the call can take a fair amount of time.


The issue here is we are in a transitional phase. There is no guarantee things will work between all OS branches, and unfortunately there is no mandate to list what OS's the content has actually be tested on. Occasionally a dev will write it in the description or say it runs on tablets, but the only definite info is the minimum OS rev - and even that doesn't currently show up in the AppStore app, just the website. Problem is, it doesn't say what beyond the minimum has been tested.

Basically I'd recommend not purchasing paid tablet apps from Amazon unless you know it's gonna work.
 
Raistlin said:
I posted this in the Android thread, but I think it's appropriate here.

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So I had my first issue with an app not functioning properly on my Transformer. What I didn't realize going in was that there isn't a discrete return policy for Android Apps through Amazon. While it sucks the Android Market dropped from 24 hours to 15 minutes (really sucks IMO - they should at least do an hour), at least it has something baked in.

For Amazon you need to click on the 'Report an Issue with this App' and select 'Contact Customer Service' and go through the process in the hope they'll refund you. Generally they will, but they don't have to. One recommendation, have your phone handy and select 'Call' immediately. I made the mistake of going by email. They end up sending you an auto-response for idiots - 'make sure you have the newest version of the game and app store ... reinstall the game ... etc.' You then have to call anyway - and the call can take a fair amount of time.


The issue here is we are in a transitional phase. There is no guarantee things will work between all OS branches, and unfortunately there is no mandate to list what OS's the content has actually be tested on. Occasionally a dev will write it in the description or say it runs on tablets, but the only definite info is the minimum OS rev - and even that doesn't currently show up in the AppStore app, just the website. Problem is, it doesn't say what beyond the minimum has been tested.

Basically I'd recommend not purchasing paid tablet apps from Amazon unless you know it's gonna work.
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Also XDA and Android Central forums for Xoom/Transformer you will find a maintained list of apps confirmed working for Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1

Use that as a guide.

With Ice Cream Sandwich they should be merging the Tablet OS/Phone OS it seems, that will make things work a lot better.
 
Raistlin said:
How is that losing its shine? If it was a functional tablet what would be the point in having the phone dock with it?
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It'd be useful to me... access to your phone storage/content, apps, extra battery, the 3G connection of the phone for full browsing anywhere with no tethering, the ability to make phone and video calls with the camera on the tablet.

Again, if it were cheap, the tablet accessory makes sense. If it's not...
 
Hawkian said:
It'd be useful to me... access to your phone storage/content, apps, extra battery, the 3G connection of the phone for full browsing anywhere with no tethering, the ability to make phone and video calls with the camera on the tablet.

Again, if it were cheap, the tablet accessory makes sense. If it's not...
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Obviously that would be cool, but what you're asking for is a full featured tablet that basically acts as a sync-doc for your phone. I don't see that being particularly successful due to costs.




cartoon_soldier said:
Also XDA and Android Central forums for Xoom/Transformer you will find a maintained list of apps confirmed working for Honeycomb 3.0.1/3.1

Use that as a guide.
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Yeah but they are hardly exhaustive lists. The dev should be publishing the info, you can't expect tens of thousands of apps to be quickly tested ... even in a community setting.

Certainly it's helpful that the ones listed will be guaranteed to work, and there are some lists of confirmed failures ... but what of all the other apps?

With Ice Cream Sandwich they should be merging the Tablet OS/Phone OS it seems, that will make things work a lot better.
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Yep that's the hope
 
So I'm thinking about selling my laptop and getting one of these, would it make a good replacement? I'm in college, so I need good word processing software, is this Polaris Office thing any good?
 
Bread said:
So I'm thinking about selling my laptop and getting one of these, would it make a good replacement? I'm in college, so I need good word processing software, is this Polaris Office thing any good?
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I haven't used it much, but as I was reading reviews, alot of them chose to use only the Transformer + Dock to write the reviews themselves and more often than not they were pleasantly surprised at their capabilities.
 
Raistlin said:
Obviously that would be cool, but what you're asking for is a full featured tablet that basically acts as a sync-doc for your phone. I don't see that being particularly successful due to costs.
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Wellllll I'm not asking for that at all. I'm just saying that would be the way to make this form factor worthwhile for me, and I'm also saying that you say my idea wouldn't be successful due to costs, but if this padfone is successful at $700 on contract I'll be pretty stunned.
 
Bread said:
So I'm thinking about selling my laptop and getting one of these, would it make a good replacement? I'm in college, so I need good word processing software, is this Polaris Office thing any good?
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Even if Polaris Office doesn't cut it, Documents to Go is basically business class and would be a worthwhile investment as a college student I'd think.

crap, sorry about the dp
 
Hawkian said:
Even if Polaris Office doesn't cut it, Documents to Go is basically business class and would be a worthwhile investment as a college student I'd think.

crap, sorry about the dp
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Problem with Documents to Go is that it still doesn't support 2010 Office...

Get with the times datawiz
 
Hawkian said:
Wellllll I'm not asking for that at all. I'm just saying that would be the way to make this form factor worthwhile for me, and I'm also saying that you say my idea wouldn't be successful due to costs, but if this padfone is successful at $700 on contract I'll be pretty stunned.
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The seven hundred pricing I was suggesting was for off contract.
 
Raistlin said:
What will be most interesting is if this is actually part of the Transformer line and can therefore use the Dock/Keyboard as well.

That would be beyond awesome.
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It would be so awesome they have to name it the bad construction robot in Transformer 2.
 
Truth101 said:
How is the quality of the keyboard/track-pad?
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I like it, will take some getting used to, but I have made some posts on GAF using it.

I still find myself using the touchscreen more than the track-pad, just easier to click a link using my hands than moving the browser there. But the pointer is useful in some situations.

Keyboard shortcuts are also very useful, especially in the browser.

Build Quality is fine to me, pretty much rivals a 10" notebook.
 
cartoon_soldier said:
Just go to Settings -> About -> System Update and check for update manually. It will find it and then show the notification.
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Yeah found it right after I posted. The browser does move a whole lot quicker after the update. And the Google movie editing app was a nice added feature.
 
Sold my laptop today, the second I see a 16 gig model in stock I'm buying!

On CompUSA there's a 32 gig model in stock with an hdmi cable and screen cleaning gel/cloth for $540, is the extra 16 gigs really that important? I have a 250 gig external hard drive on the side so I'm not sure if I'd actually need it or not.
 
Stallion Free said:
My Bestbuy didn't even have any show models when I checked today :(
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Same here, the sales guy even gave me a cock tease when he said they might have some in the back that they haven't put out yet, then he came back and said he had no idea when they would get another shipment.

I'm hoping on Amazon to come through with a big shipment of them tomorrow.
 
Dock is up at newegg




Bread said:
Sold my laptop today, the second I see a 16 gig model in stock I'm buying!

On CompUSA there's a 32 gig model in stock with an hdmi cable and screen cleaning gel/cloth for $540, is the extra 16 gigs really that important? I have a 250 gig external hard drive on the side so I'm not sure if I'd actually need it or not.
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I highly recommend utilizing now in stock. Great service.
 
Hawkian said:
Damn, I want it too! I was hoping to wait to buy the bundle, but it barely seems to exist? :P
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I was hoping to get that the second I heard about the thing, but I haven't seen the bundle once. It's a shame they have had these crazy shortages, this thing could be huge.
 
Bread said:
THANK YOU THANK YOU

I just ordered the dock and the 32 gig from Newegg. Fuckkkk I can't wait to get this thing.
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Ha nice man, glad to help.

The timing worked great for me as well. I returned my dock to WalMart earlier today (pad worked, keys didn't :/) ... and ordered the replacement from newegg a few hours ago :)
 
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