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EGM Rumor: PC-developers looking into Revolution?

pgtl_10 said:
http://www.freewebs.com/gamecubeheaven/

I think this is according to the Feb. 2006 issue of EGM. Can anyone confirm this?

This is perfectly logical to me. The Revolution is perfect for all the major PC genres, be it FPS, RTS, point and click, etc. Getting Lionhead or Will Wright on board would ensure a steady flow of innovative, exclusive titles. They simply wouldn't be possible on the PS3/360.
 
John Carmack Revolution FPS is now confirmed.
 
Gahiggidy said:
John Carmack Revolution FPS is now confirmed.
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pgtl_10 said:
http://www.freewebs.com/gamecubeheaven/

I think this is according to the Feb. 2006 issue of EGM. Can anyone confirm this?

I've got the Feb EGM...looking at The Rumor Mill ....page 52.... here is what was said, exactly as it appears:


Online Attraction
OK, I know last issue's entry concerning
the Revolution's questionable graphics
irritated quite a few rabid fanboys. Buck
up, little campers--I'm about to turn
those frowns upside down. The Q's hear-
ing that several developers (including
those in the PC community) who
mostly make online games want to
work on Nintendo's next-gen console.

Happy now?
 
choplifter said:
I've got the Feb EGM...looking at The Rumor Mill ....page 52.... here is what was said, exactly as it appears:


Online Attraction
OK, I know last issue's entry concerning
the Revolution's questionable graphics
irritated quite a few rabid fanboys. Buck
up, little campers--I'm about to turn
those frowns upside down. The Q's hear-
ing that several developers (including
those in the PC community) who
mostly make online games want to
work on Nintendo's next-gen console.

Happy now?
I'd be happier if he could drop a few names.
 
Gahiggidy said:
I'd be happier if he could drop a few names.

Me too.

I'm hoping Molyneux, Will Wright, and Sid Mier take notice and make some games. Plus, Nintendo would be wise to throw some money at Blizzard imo. Not for WoW, since that's just not going to happen. But imagine the Revolution having StarCraft 2 and Diablo 3 online. No expensive computer upgrades required, just the Revolution. That would rock.
 
I wish the former Origin Systems would seperate itself from EA and make Revolution games.


I loved the Wing Commander series.
 
PhoenixDark said:
Me too.

I'm hoping Molyneux, Will Wright, and Sid Mier take notice and make some games. Plus, Nintendo would be wise to throw some money at Blizzard imo. Not for WoW, since that's just not going to happen. But imagine the Revolution having StarCraft 2 and Diablo 3 online. No expensive computer upgrades required, just the Revolution. That would rock.
Playing a Blizzard game has never required any sort of major upgrade at all. That's kind of their gimmick.

I doubt this rumor means much of anything except that a random, uninspired FPS developer or two will use the motion controller.
 
Blizzard is a PC developer first and foremost.

Unless they are going to have swinging ape studios port Ghost over, or maybe have the port Starcraft, I don't see them doing much with Revolution.
 
mCACGj said:
Let's be honest, the list wouldn't even fit on the page...you know that ;)
That's true.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Playing a Blizzard game has never required any sort of major upgrade at all. That's kind of their gimmick.

I doubt this rumor means much of anything except that a random, uninspired FPS developer or two will use the motion controller.
AMAZING !!!
how do learn that much by reading those few lines .....
 
you know of a faster way to build, select, group, and move units with a dpad and two buttons? hotkeys are a way of life.
 
blackadde said:
you know of a faster way to build, select, group, and move units with a dpad and two buttons? hotkeys are a way of life.

Quite a lot of stuff on PCs mimics "hotkey" functionality with mouse gestures, and since the Revolution's controller is like a mouse in 3D space, I can imagine that approach will get a lot of use.

Pointing, clicking, dragging, gesturing to open up short menus and then pointing and clicking at stuff in there -- stuff will function differently than with a keyboard, but they can function quite well with the controller's versatility.

Speevy said:
I'm not even sure how Nintendo could design Fire Emblem with the Revmote's motions in mind.

Huh? Probably similar to how they designed Advance Wars DS, except quite a bit more fluid and streamlined. Can you really not imagine how a game like Fire Emblem would function with these controls?
 
Speevy said:
I'm not even sure how Nintendo could design Fire Emblem with the Revmote's motions in mind.
That'd be easy. Pointing and clicking will be easier freehanded unlike the touch-screen movements.
 
Aries said:
This is perfectly logical to me. The Revolution is perfect for all the major PC genres, be it FPS, RTS, point and click, etc. Getting Lionhead or Will Wright on board would ensure a steady flow of innovative, exclusive titles. They simply wouldn't be possible on the PS3/360.

You are forgetting one thing chap, your average, mid-range, $400 PC will probably be still faster than Revo.

Seriously - I can't see games being released on both platforms. It'll be high-end stuff for the PC/ 360 and quirky, cheap stuff (that would sell and look like shit on the PC) on the Revo alone.

Of course I'm buying Revo for Nintendo games alone not some ugly-ass PC ports and I supsect this goes for the majority.
 
ethelred said:
Quite a lot of stuff on PCs mimics "hotkey" functionality with mouse gestures, and since the Revolution's controller is like a mouse in 3D space, I can imagine that approach will get a lot of us.

Pointing, clicking, dragging, gesturing to open up short menus and then pointing and clicking at stuff in there -- stuff will function differently than with a keyboard, but they can function quite well with the controller's versatility.

gesture functions are a joke when time is a factor. in the time it takes for you to fumble through a single submenu you could execute a dozen commands on a keyboard.

would you want to select, draw a circle, search through a menu, and click just to bold text? no, you'd just hit ctrl+b. because it's faster.

something like pikmin works well because it's severely limited in terms of commands or strategies you can execute.
 
blackadde said:
gesture functions are a joke when time is a factor. in the time it takes for you to fumble through a single submenu you could execute a dozen commands on a keyboard.

would you want to select, draw a circle, search through a menu, and click just to bold text? no, you'd just hit ctrl+b. because it's faster.

something like pikmin works well because it's severely limited in terms of commands or strategies you can execute.

Fair point. I'm not a big RTS player, so I wasn't really sure how well it'd work -- it was just what struck me as a reasonable solution. Regardless, though, I think the games that are designed for the system will be designed with its capabilities in mind -- a Revolution strategy game won't function exactly the same way as a PC one would, because the abilities and control schemes aren't quite the same. But a strategy game built with the controls in mind could turn out very well, and regardless of whether or not it perfectly meshes up with the PC style, it'd still be closer to that than what is achievable on the other consoles (sans keyboards).
 
and repeat several times for every single time you want to do any action, ever.

as opposed to, say, hitting your building hotkey, hitting your unit hotkey, and setting your mobile rally in under a second. menu systems are cumbersome.
 
Well, EGM's rumor section sure has been entertaining lately, hasn't it?

5 pennies says that this rumor's origin resides in Epic's Mark Rein publicly asking for a Revolution development kit after scorching the remotroller on that IGN roundtable. EGM's crack(pot) rumor staff passed it through the usual 6 stages of embellishment and then published this vague yet juicy tidbit.
 
blackadde said:
would you want to select, draw a circle, search through a menu, and click just to bold text? no, you'd just hit ctrl+b. because it's faster.
Try firefox with gesture interface and a wacom tablet...

It heavily depends on the number of context-dependant functions. I'm not saying you're wrong (I think I would miss the keyboard in a lot of strategic games), but that's not an easy problem to solve.

Besides, I think there's a major difference between a text editor and a game. When typing text, you have both hands on the keyboard. Thus, keystrokes for functions are far better (I never use the mouse in this kind of applications). Browsing is heavy mouse-centric, so gestures works very well (especially with a stylus).

Advance wars is broken because interface has NOT been rethought for the stylus (for a unit, clic on the unit to choose it, draw a line to a free space to move, idem with clic if you don't mind the path, clic on a enemy unit to attack with the selected unit, on a friend unit to pick/refill. You DON'T need the menu for 99% of the actions. And besides, menu is too small for the stylus, and options should appear around the cursor, probably icons, not so far away). I've written my own advance wars clone, and although I prefer keys with Advance wars, I play easier and quicker with the mouse in my clone...
 
Koren said:
Besides, I think there's a major difference between a text editor and a game. When typing text, you have both hands on the keyboard. Thus, keystrokes for functions are far better (I never use the mouse in this kind of applications). Browsing is heavy mouse-centric, so gestures works very well (especially with a stylus).

so look at a hybrid environment, something like photoshop or 3d modelling work - i would die out there if i had to rely on a gui for all my inputs. certain tasks just become so time consuming that they're unfeasible.

i have an intuos but i don't use gestures in firefox because i have a 7 button mouse, alt+arrow keys, backspace, and f5.
 
So you're telling me that software developers are looking into hardware. That is a huge fucking stretch, I donno.
fortified_concept said:
Thanks but no thanks.
Yeah, more games is a bad thing.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Peter Molyneux's Lionhead Studios was among those interested. In an interview on G4TV.com (after waxing philosophic about the Revolution controller, and saying that he would be interested in working with it) he stated that he had several ideas (not revolution specific, mind you) floating around his head including a game that allowed you to 'relive your life' or some such. He then said something about adventure games being one of his favorite genres - a genre in need of 'a revolution'. Seemed like he was hinting at things to come.
 
choplifter said:
I've got the Feb EGM...looking at The Rumor Mill ....page 52.... here is what was said, exactly as it appears:


Online Attraction
OK, I know last issue's entry concerning
the Revolution's questionable graphics
irritated quite a few rabid fanboys. Buck
up, little campers--I'm about to turn
those frowns upside down. The Q's hear-
ing that several developers (including
those in the PC community) who
mostly make online games want to
work on Nintendo's next-gen console.

Happy now?


if this is true, that means nintendo has a pretty solid online strategy. its going to be interesting to see how next gen pans out.
 
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