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ELDEN RING |OT| One Ring To Rule Them All

One small markets disc only sales are not an indication of anything.
Even PlayStation's Horizon did 30% on PS4 and 70% on PS5. And that was a crossgen game where the PS4 sku upgraded to the PS5 for free, meaning there's PS5 players out there that only bought the PS4 version for being cheaper.

Honestly I'm not sure when they planned these old gen versions that they expected so little sales from them
 

RafterXL

Member
The guy who said it before is right, Margit wouldn't be a top 20 From fight in terms of difficulty. Hell, there are multiple Evergaol fights in just the first couple areas that are harder. In a few weeks we'll all be talking about how easy he is once people start hitting the really hard ones.

I posted Sunhi's no hit, naked of Margit earlier, but here's another guy level 15 with +3 weapon:


And if you can't straight up fight him you got Shackle's, Jellyfish and he's one of the easiest bosses to parry.
 

phinious

Member
So I went samurai and have been putting most points into dex. Should I continue upgrading uchgatana and long bow? I have found other cool weapons, but these are my favorites that scale with dex. I’m worried I waste too many resources on bad weapons.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
Even PlayStation's Horizon did 30% on PS4 and 70% on PS5. And that was a crossgen game where the PS4 sku upgraded to the PS5 for free, meaning there's PS5 players out there that only bought the PS4 version for being cheaper.

Honestly I'm not sure when they planned these old gen versions that they expected so little sales from them

Like I said, one small market is not an indication of anything.

The PS4 version of the game sold more in Japan compared to the PS5 version, but again, that's just one market.


What’s interesting is that the sales were evenly split between the PS4 and PS5 with the PS4 version debuting slightly higher at 48K compared to the 43K for PS5 according to Famitsu. This won’t be a surprising result since the PS5 is facing a stock shortage and the sales of PS5 are nowhere near the PS4.

Overall it makes complete sense why Sony doesn't want to let the last gen versions go. Even if all said it accounts for 40% of the sales and the PS5 version accounts for 60% of sales, that's still a massive chunk of sales on the last gen.
 

imsosleepy

Member
So..something is bothering me alot and makes me not understand the review scores. I explored alot. Level 26. Still using the same weapons as i started.. how is this supposed to be super fun? And then i can sometimes find other weapons but never better then my upgraded base weapons...
 

JokerMM

Gay porn is where it's at.
second main boss is down. the Academy was a real struggle

what a bullshit fight too, going full strength build did me more harm than good
 
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anthony2690

Gold Member
I feel like the only person who purchased this on disc, the other 9 people I know who purchased this game on Xbox went digital.

I guess I'm one of the rare people that still like to leave a game case on the shelf.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I feel like the only person who purchased this on disc, the other 9 people I know who purchased this game on Xbox went digital.

I guess I'm one of the rare people that still like to leave a game case on the shelf.

I feel you, I'm a physical buyer primarily as well. I love games and steel books in a shelf.
 

ckaneo

Member
Like I said, one small market is not an indication of anything.

The PS4 version of the game sold more in Japan compared to the PS5 version, but again, that's just one market.




Overall it makes complete sense why Sony doesn't want to let the last gen versions go. Even if all said it accounts for 40% of the sales and the PS5 version accounts for 60% of sales, that's still a massive chunk of sales on the last gen.
The UK market is irrelevant, the Japanese market isnt even worth talking about outside of pokemon and animal crossing
 

rofif

Banned
Anyone using bleed weapon? I found a greatsword similar to what I used but with 50 bleed. So I put heavy affinity on it and it’s doing the job. Bleed is not happening too often but it’s massive help sometimes
 

benno

Member
I've basically lost track of where I'm supposed to be and reached the point where I'm walking around aimlessly. I keep going in dungeons only to find I've completed them. Is there a way to filter completed dungeons?
 

onQ123

Member
Why are devs still making games for last gen? The sales of those consoles are poor.

By that logic you could also ask why they make games for PC or Xbox but the fact is that the hardware is so much alike now that it's no reason not to make games for the older consoles.


Even though games sell more on PS5 at launch we haven't had any success stories about any PS5 only game yet.
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
I've basically lost track of where I'm supposed to be and reached the point where I'm walking around aimlessly. I keep going in dungeons only to find I've completed them. Is there a way to filter completed dungeons?
If you find something and don't complete it, use a marker, then assume anything visible on the map that doesn't have a marker is complete.
 
When anyone that is a desktop PC user gets a free moment, would you mind checking out the panels in post 6 and let me know if they're all aligned at the same width?

On my end, the very last post with the candle where it says "The ELDEN RING is meant to be yours - it always was" looks smaller than the others🤷🏻‍♂️

Also the Editions post - the gif that shows the physical editions with their prices - it looks smaller on my end as well. Everything else looks as intended though👍🏻
 
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SatansReverence

Hipster Princess
What boss from the other gamers was harder? Not even Orphan or Ludwig was this hard to me. So yeah, I’m calling BS on people pretending Margit isn’t hard.
Off the top of my head, bosses that are easily more difficult than margit

DS1
O&S
Manus
What ever the dragon is in DS1 DLC
Dual sanctuary guardians in the same DLC

Cant remember DS2 well enough

Abyss Watchers
Dark Eater
Sludge bro gywndoline
Pretty much any of main DLC bosses from DS3

Hell, there are many bosses in Eldenring that are already more difficult than Margit. He is a mid tier boss at best that people are simply not prepared for because they just B-line it for him.

Barely took 3 tries and I was barely around level 20-25.
 
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Alexios

Cores, shaders and BIOS oh my!
Difficulty walls all around for me after the game feigned being fairly easy at the start. Man I suck, I can't even beat the first "real" boss the game nudges you toward. Though I got a couple side ones in caves/the world.

So because I can't seem to beat shit for progress I've been wandering the world and encountered all sorts of cool stuff and side stuff and PVP focused stuff and areas that I shouldn't be in just yet and so on and so forth so still having fun for now but dunno where to focus/improve to progress.
 
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EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
Difficulty walls all around for me after the game feigned being fairly easy at the start. Man I suck, I can't even beat the first "real" boss the game nudges you toward. Though I got a couple side ones in caves/the world.

So because I can't seem to beat shit for progress I've been wandering the world and encountered all sorts of cool stuff and side stuff and PVP focused stuff and areas that I shouldn't be in just yet and so on and so forth so still having fun for now but dunno where to focus/improve to progress.
Just keep exploring, no need to go straight on the critical path. If you're not sure what to level, boost your vigor and endurance. Get str/dex to fulfill weapon prerequisites for something you want to use after finding it.
 
Just keep exploring, no need to go straight on the critical path. If you're not sure what to level, boost your vigor and endurance. Get str/dex to fulfill weapon prerequisites for something you want to use after finding it.
This is gold for me. Been pumping everything into vigor. Question if I may.
Is it a waste to upgrade starting weapons or best to try and find an exotic and level that?
 

EviLore

Expansive Ellipses
Staff Member
This is gold for me. Been pumping everything into vigor. Question if I may.
Is it a waste to upgrade starting weapons or best to try and find an exotic and level that?
Weapons are generally all balanced, depending on your preferred playstyle. If you enjoy using it and it scales to your intended main stats then you're fine. There are regular weapons and special weapons, but they use different upgrade materials (smithing stones vs somber stones), so there's no point in holding out for something fancy. Use both. Basic weapons are viable for the entire game since they have a huge upgrade cap.
 

ssringo

Member
second main boss is down. the Academy was a real struggle

what a bullshit fight too, going full strength build did me more harm than good
I took a dinner break at that boss due to rage buildup. I'm also running strength and using the Brick Hammer because it's ability gives a nice juicy R2 combo. It can be rather painful trying to get hits when bosses just don't stop attacking. Even more so when it's magic and you can't parry.
 
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Wunray

Member
Came upon a ruin which housed a certain pumpkin duo, worst experience of my gaming life they did not think that encounter through.
 

Northeastmonk

Gold Member
I’m getting my strength up to 40 in order to wield the Grafted Blade Greatsword. I’m going to see how that weapon fares with the Starscourge Heirloom equipped. Currently using a Lordsworn Greatsword +5, which did wonders for me in the 2nd main boss area. I got the Bastard Sword thinking it might scale better than the Lordsworn, but I really like the move set. I can’t wait to play more as time allows.
 

GHG

Gold Member
Ha ha…my experience as well. I spent a couple of hours in there. Did you make it to the boss? I almost missed the area that he’s located. He’s fucking hard as hell and the path to get to him is just as bad.

Not at all, as soon as I could fast travel out of there I did. I'll return later once I figure out how it joins up with the rest of the world.
 

Aenima

Member
Finally after 10 hours the game finally clicked and feels amazing now. Was running around kinda lost in the 1st 10h with my starting gear and could not find any better weapon. The open world is not that great for starting the game, the game drops u in the middle of the map and tells u to go north, but once u find the 1st story boss u realize u are way to underpowered and need to explore somewhere else (I went south). But once you find the gear u like and level up a bit more, the world becomes much more enjoyable to explore.

The 1st 2 story bosses are down and im still level 30 with my starting armor, but having a great time exploring everething and challenging any enemy i find. Some still too OP to me.
 
Weapons are generally all balanced, depending on your preferred playstyle. If you enjoy using it and it scales to your intended main stats then you're fine. There are regular weapons and special weapons, but they use different upgrade materials (smithing stones vs somber stones), so there's no point in holding out for something fancy. Use both. Basic weapons are viable for the entire game since they have a huge upgrade cap.
Thanks Boss. Much appreciated.
 

Swift_Star

Banned
Off the top of my head, bosses that are easily more difficult than margit

DS1
O&S
Manus
What ever the dragon is in DS1 DLC
Dual sanctuary guardians in the same DLC

Cant remember DS2 well enough

Abyss Watchers
Dark Eater
Sludge bro gywndoline
Pretty much any of main DLC bosses from DS3

Hell, there are many bosses in Eldenring that are already more difficult than Margit. He is a mid tier boss at best that people are simply not prepared for because they just B-line it for him.

Barely took 3 tries and I was barely around level 20-25.
Like I already said: all of those were easier to me than Margit.
 
Finally after 10 hours the game finally clicked and feels amazing now. Was running around kinda lost in the 1st 10h with my starting gear and could not find any better weapon. The open world is not that great for starting the game, the game drops u in the middle of the map and tells u to go north, but once u find the 1st story boss u realize u are way to underpowered and need to explore somewhere else (I went south). But once you find the gear u like and level up a bit more, the world becomes much more enjoyable to explore.

The 1st 2 story bosses are down and im still level 30 with my starting armor, but having a great time exploring everething and challenging any enemy i find. Some still too OP to me.
This is what I like most about this game. Just heading off in a direction I've never been in and sniffing around. Forced myself to not use the map and just use the compass. I stumbled across Castle Morne this way. A bit crazy for a beginner in these types of games lol but i'm up for the challenge.
Going back to Castle Morne to search every nook and cranny of that place because I've found myself in Erdtree Catacombs and seriously fuck that place with that blob shit hanging off the ceilings. Makes me paranoid going into any room now, check the ceilings for any surprises lol.
 

Stuart360

Member
By that logic you could also ask why they make games for PC or Xbox but the fact is that the hardware is so much alike now that it's no reason not to make games for the older consoles.


Even though games sell more on PS5 at launch we haven't had any success stories about any PS5 only game yet.
This is retail physical sales remember. PC is almost 100% digital.
The game had 900k ingame on Steam alone on launch day, which is probably way more than PS5 had.
 

adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
It's a large enough, indeed very large sample size to confidently extrapolate from...

Right but then you can use the same logic for Horizon selling more in Japan as a large enough sample to justify continued cross-gen games.





The drop on the ps5 unsurprisingly was worse than the ps4


Whelp.


By that logic you could also ask why they make games for PC or Xbox but the fact is that the hardware is so much alike now that it's no reason not to make games for the older consoles.

Not a good comparison point, the very tweet this topic is about states that Xbox and PC are a lot more digital focused so it's not surprising to see less boxed retail numbers for them.

Again, these are just boxed retail copies in the UK. Not even the full breadth of sales in UK.
 
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Shmunter

Member
Right but then you can use the same logic for Horizon selling more in Japan as a large enough sample to justify continued cross-gen games.





Whelp.
I would say Japan is a completely unique landscape and differs to the west. If you were to look to Japan you could proclaim Xbox is dead, but that's not the case in the rest of the world. UK consumer trends and culture in general are global in a sense.
 
Sony were dumb for releasing horizon a week before elden ring, even from their own ecosystems perspective. From games probably sell the most on playstation, especially from the japanese market. Sony conditioned the general public to play From games on their platforms having exclusives souls games for it every gen.

They should have released it the day Sifu release, and sifu could have released a week before elden since im sure the drop off was severe for it anyway
 
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adamsapple

Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
I would say Japan is a completely unique landscape and differs to the west. If you were to look to Japan you could proclaim Xbox is dead, but that's not the case in the rest of the world. UK consumer trends and culture in general are global in a sense.

I think a month or two's numbers from the US would be the biggest indicator since that is the single biggest market that we generally tend to get numbers from NPD every now and then.

UK is just one part of the greater EU market and we maybe get Spanish numbers once or twice a year at best.
 
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