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[infinitys_7th]

Dr. Shiva Ayyadurai had his megaphone knocked into his face by an irate Warren supporter, sending him to the ER:



Warren has yet to condemn the attack, which comes after Democrat Maxine Waters called for violence against Republicans.

 

[DeepEnigma]

These people are going straight batshit insane.

 

[Spheyr]

Aw man, poor Shiva. Dude's a little excitable but he's a good fella, you'd have to be a monster to attack him.

 

[Alfadawg]

What injuries did he sustain? What treatment was he given? Paracetamol? Bandages?

Sounds like an attention whore, plus do we know the full story? Who was he attacking at the time etc?

 

[ResurrectedContrarian]

I mean... I'm no fan of either side of this little exchange, nor of the various "punch a fascist" nonsense, but this one feels a bit ridiculous. The old man barely pushed the megaphone and this guy was talking about it calmly afterward, but seems to have visited the ER later to intentionally exaggerate a very minor incident.

 

[DeepEnigma]

What injuries did he sustain? What treatment was he given? Paracetamol? Bandages?

Sounds like an attention whore, plus do we know the full story? Who was he attacking at the time etc?

The amount of mental gymnastics in one post... Bravo!

I mean... I'm no fan of either side of this little exchange, nor of the various "punch a fascist" nonsense, but this one feels a bit ridiculous. The old man barely pushed the megaphone and this guy was talking about it calmly afterward, but seems to have visited the ER later to intentionally exaggerate a very minor incident.

Maybe he should play soccer/football with that selling of it, lol. It was pushed pretty decent though, especially in one's mouth, you heard the thud.

 

[joshcryer]

video of the assault:



edit: by no means that guy should have shoved the megaphone in his face (I doubt he intended to do that) but it definitely wasn't worth going to the ER over, he only went to the ER to get the guy to have to cough up the bill money after the assault charges

 

[Spheyr]

I mean... I'm no fan of either side of this little exchange, nor of the various "punch a fascist" nonsense, but this one feels a bit ridiculous. The old man barely pushed the megaphone and this guy was talking about it calmly afterward, but seems to have visited the ER later to intentionally exaggerate a very minor incident.

Yeah, the adrenaline wore off and he realized "Oh, fuck, I'm actually hurt more than I thought."

Ever been in a motorcycle accident where you get up immediately after, tell the paramedics you're fine, wave everyone off, then about ten minutes later as the scene is clearing.... oh fuck where did all this pain come from, why can't I walk straight, why was I so dumb as to tell the nice men with the ambulance to go away? I have. Adrenaline is a hell of a natural drug.

 

[infinitys_7th]

What injuries did he sustain? What treatment was he given? Paracetamol? Bandages?

Sounds like an attention whore, plus do we know the full story? Who was he attacking at the time etc?

Why do you immediately blame the victim and assume he was attacking someone.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why do you immediately blame the victim and assume he was attacking someone.

Not on my team, yo!

 

[Keylime]

This is the height of adulthood. One man holding a megaphone repeating the word "racist" at a man over and over, and the other one pushes it into his face.

 

[infinitys_7th]

Not on my team, yo!

Why do I get the feeling that, if the parties were reversed, he would be demanding Trump/Shiva's theoretical Republican opponent apologize and would say Trump/the opponent is staying silent because the victim is a "brown person"?

 

[DeepEnigma]

Why do I get the feeling that, if the parties were reversed, he would be demanding Trump/Shiva's theoretical Republican opponent apologize and would say Trump/the opponent is staying silent because the victim is a "brown person"?

The answer lies in one's post history.

 

[BadHand]

I can't hear on the video, was the old guy actually making racist comments? If someone repeatedly screamed "racist" in my face with a megaphone, I would be a little tempted to try and knock it away too.

 

[Spheyr]

I can't hear on the video, was the old guy actually making racist comments? If someone repeatedly screamed "racist" in my face with a megaphone, I would be a little tempted to try and knock it away too.

Or you could have avoided anything being said in your face by not aggressively approaching the guy with the megaphone first?

edit: by no means that guy should have shoved the megaphone in his face (I doubt he intended to do that) but it definitely wasn't worth going to the ER over, he only went to the ER to get the guy to have to cough up the bill money after the assault charges

You don't get to tell someone else how valid their injury is, or their pain.

 

[joshcryer]

Adrenaline is a hell of a natural drug.

I hate that I have to give this disclaimer here, but I am not blaming the victim here. The assaulter needs anger management classes, a court hearing, a night in jail, expensive bail, probation, have to pay medical bills, whole nine yards.

But he barely popped him in the mouth. The clink you hear is the microphone which is detatched from the megaphone to avoid vibrations and on its own holder piece. Yeah it probably smarted a bit. But my mom popped me in the mouth harder than that as a kid, heh. He spent another 5 mins ranting on his mic and I highly doubt it even bled (if it bled he would've documented it). Instead he ran down to the ER to get checked out because he knows that guy will have to pay the hospital bill.

You don't get to tell someone else how valid their injury is, or their pain.

I'm not? It's perfectly valid to go over the top and do everything you can to be a little bitch.

 

[King of Foxes]

I was expecting some antifa level violence.

I'm pretty sure my kids have hit me harder than that play fighting, seems like a weak excuse to go to the hospital and claim the other side is violent.

 

[BadHand]

Or you could have avoided anything being said in your face by not aggressively approaching the guy with the megaphone first?

I thought protests were about fostering a dialogue and engaging the other side? Or is it just about rattling the hornets nests and PR opportunities these days?

They could have used that opportunity to make a point, but they both come off looking like immature school children.

 

[Dunki]

video of the assault:



edit: by no means that guy should have shoved the megaphone in his face (I doubt he intended to do that) but it definitely wasn't worth going to the ER over, he only went to the ER to get the guy to have to cough up the bill money after the assault charges

I would sue the fuck out of this guy. Violence in any form is not acceptable.

 

[infinitys_7th]

I thought protests were about fostering a dialogue and engaging the other side? Or is it just about rattling the hornets nests and PR opportunities these days?

They could have used that opportunity to make a point, but they both come off looking like immature school children.

The local government, who are Warren supporters, ordered Shiva to remove his bus signs. Literally trying to silence minority voices.

 

[Christopher]

What injuries did he sustain? What treatment was he given? Paracetamol? Bandages?

Sounds like an attention whore, plus do we know the full story? Who was he attacking at the time etc?

Just say it's wrong holy shit

 

[Mahadev]

Isn't this guy using the same obnoxious tactics the right sometimes rightfully accuses the Democrats of? How is this about race and not political affiliation? Why is this guy trying to make this about race? The whole situation is fucking absurd.

 

[ILLtown]

American politics is so fucking cringeworthy.

Which side is it that peddles identity politics and amplifies their own victimhood again? It's hard to keep up.

 

[Alfadawg]

Thanks for posting the video and it's just as I expected.

Where do the right find all these crazy Indian guys like this dude and desouza!

The old man shouldn't have shoved him back like that as the dude was trying to provoke him and he took the troll bate.

Having said that, the old man didn't deserve the beat down he got.

The more pressing issue here is, that dude just wasted valuable doctor time just to make a point

ER is for emergencies not for trying to (weakly) own the libs.

 

[DeepEnigma]

American politics is so fucking cringeworthy.

Which side is it that peddles identity politics and amplifies their own victimhood again? It's hard to keep up.

Yeah it is, but man the parliament in the UK takes the cake for cringe. It is litterally like The Muppets with the jeers and sneers when they are not sleeping of course, lol.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Thanks for posting the video and it's just as I expected.

Where do the right find all these crazy Indian guys like this dude and desouza!

The old man shouldn't have shoved him back like that as the dude was trying to provoke him and he took the troll bate.

Having said that, the old man didn't deserve the beat down he got.

The more pressing issue here is, that dude just wasted valuable doctor time just to make a point

ER is for emergencies not for trying to (weakly) own the libs.

Old man was "beat down"? He was just pushed back and fell on his ass due to the burm/curb and the officer swiftly intervened.

Man your optics are something else.

Also, have you been to ERs? 90% (tales from my ass % but probbaly accurate) are people taking advantage of their insurance, wether free low income/state provided or paid for, with the sniffles.

I swear, you must be a parody, please be a parody, lol.

 

[Phoenix RISING]

I thought protests were about fostering a dialogue and engaging the other side? Or is it just about rattling the hornets nests and PR opportunities these days?

They could have used that opportunity to make a point, but they both come off looking like immature school children.

Yeah, if he thinks he's going to be able to unseat Warren, who is one of the top democrats in the US in one of the highest-ranking states in education while using these tactics, well, at this point, it's too late for him.

 

[DunDunDunpachi]

Problem is that we've already crossed this line a long time ago i.e. approaching a woman with verbal greeting can be viewed as "violence" since "words are violence".

Don't cry when it gets used against you. This is just like the James Gunn debacle. Don't prop up stupid, petty shit as traumatic and violent if you aren't willing to face the same accusations.

 

[infinitys_7th]

Isn't this guy using the same obnoxious tactics the right sometimes rightfully accuses the Democrats of? How is this about race and not political affiliation? Why is this guy trying to make this about race? The whole situation is fucking absurd.

That's the point. He's throwing it back at them, and they respond with violence.

The local government attempted to censor his message that "Only a real Indian can defeat the Fake Indian!" His entire campaign is mocking them, exposing the hypocrisy of the area.

 

[infinitys_7th]

Yeah, if he thinks he's going to be able to unseat Warren, who is one of the top democrats in the US in one of the highest-ranking states in education while using these tactics, well, at this point, it's too late for him.

You'd think all that education would have helped the attacker contain his white privilege.

 

[BadHand]

The local government, who are Warren supporters, ordered Shiva to remove his bus signs. Literally trying to silence minority voices.

I don't know anything about this except the topic you posted and the video of the incident in this thread. Mostly because I don't care for this level of inconsequential tit-for-tat schoolyard bickering and it makes me question the judgement of anyone who believes this is not just a typical shit-slinging exercise in the run up to an election.

Looks like the guy turned up at his opponents rally with a megaphone with the express purpose of agitating them and drumming up anger for which he could blame his opponent. And if that's the case, he succeeded in getting a response from a lone crazy old guy.

That's the point. He's throwing it back at them, and they respond with violence.

And by "they", you mean one old dude within a sea of supporters.

 

[infinitys_7th]

I don't know anything about this except the topic you posted and the video of the incident in this thread. Mostly because I don't care for this level of inconsequential tit-for-tat schoolyard bickering and it makes me question the judgement of anyone who believes this is not just a typical shit-slinging exercise in the run up to an election.

Looks like the guy turned up at his opponents rally with a megaphone with the express purpose of agitating them and drumming up anger for which he could blame his opponent. And if that's the case, he succeeded in getting a response from a lone crazy old guy.



And by "they", you mean one old dude within a sea of supporters.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article209690204.html

By "they" I mean Warren's friends in the Cambridge locak government.

 

[Spheyr]

Where do the right find all these crazy Indian guys like this dude and desouza!

 

[Alfadawg]

I'm Indian btw ;-)

 

[BadHand]

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/nation-world/national/article209690204.html

By "they" I mean Warren's friends in the Cambridge locak government.

You have suggested "they" (multiple) people have responded with violence, which doesn't seem to be the case based on the information posted in the thread so far.

The link you posted is more pathetic shit-slinging. Why make a personal attack when he has the opportunity to attack her policies? Does this stuff really have any impact on who you cast a vote for? Or are you just jumping onto the tittle-tattle train?

 

[infinitys_7th]

You have suggested "they" (multiple) people have responded with violence, which doesn't seem to be the case based on the information posted in the thread so far.

The link you posted is more pathetic shit-slinging. Why make a personal attack when he has the opportunity to attack her policies? Does this stuff really have any impact on who you cast a vote for? Or are you just jumping onto the tittle-tattle train?

What's good for the goose is good for the gander.

 

[NickFire]

You have suggested "they" (multiple) people have responded with violence, which doesn't seem to be the case based on the information posted in the thread so far.

The link you posted is more pathetic shit-slinging. Why make a personal attack when he has the opportunity to attack her policies? Does this stuff really have any impact on who you cast a vote for? Or are you just jumping onto the tittle-tattle train?

To be fair, the amount she made from teaching and her failure to endorse Bernie in the primaries, do leave a lot of people wondering what her actual policies are beyond that she hates Trump. She says the middle class is getting hammered, but then happily contributes to ridiculous education costs via ridiculous salaries for professors. And she panders to the far left, but then does not endorse Bernie. Not exactly talking and walking in lock step.

Edit: and MA has an option on state tax returns to pay a higher rate. Who wants to bet she has not consistently done that for 10 years?

 

[Keylime]

Warren lost my respect when she didn't support Bernie. It felt insanely politically cowardly to just sit off to the side and wait for someone to win before throwing your support behind them.

 

[Alfadawg]

LMAO.

This dude is a grade A idiot

 

[BadHand]

To be fair, the amount she made from teaching and her failure to endorse Bernie in the primaries, do leave a lot of people wondering what her actual policies are beyond that she hates Trump. She says the middle class is getting hammered, but then happily contributes to ridiculous education costs via ridiculous salaries for professors. And she panders to the far left, but then does not endorse Bernie. Not exactly talking and walking in lock step.

Edit: and MA has an option on state tax returns to pay a higher rate. Who wants to bet she has not consistently done that for 10 years?

I'm can't comment on this as I only lightly follow US politics. Regardless, it shouldn't have any affect or justification for any rabble rousing into a megaphone and the unhinged response of a single Warren supporter.

He has clearly missed an opportunity to publicize her failures on the side of a bus, and instead used it to bring attention to race and division.

 

[DeepEnigma]

LMAO.

This dude is a grade A idiot

Ah yes, let us shift the focus on him and attack the person that was well, physically attacked.

This is the side of politics that causes people to lose.

 

[Alfadawg]

No, let's see what sort of political operator this guy is.

An elderly man who was being provoked lost it and pushed the guy.

He's now making maximum capital out of this while wasting hospital time. His assault is BS. You guys are acting like Antifa just ran a train on him.

Dude's a fraud. Claims he invented E-Mail, cant even carry an interview by a Right Wing shockjock without losing the plot.

Also, let's not pretend he's some harmless geek. Dude got locked up for abusing his partner and assaulting an Officer.

 

[ProfessorLobo]

Aw man, poor Shiva. Dude's a little excitable but he's a good fella, you'd have to be a monster to attack him.

I've known of his existence for about 30 seconds and yeah he really seems like a stand up guy that I'd like to have a beer with.

 

[Alfadawg]

He's clearly "one of the good ones"

He needs to team with Dinesh D'souza and do a pod cast.

 

[DeepEnigma]

No, let's see what sort of political operator this guy is.

An elderly man who was being provoked lost it and pushed the guy.

He's now making maximum capital out of this while wasting hospital time. His assault is BS. You guys are acting like Antifa just ran a train on him.

Dude's a fraud. Claims he invented E-Mail, cant even carry an interview by a Right Wing shockjock without losing the plot.

Also, let's not pretend he's some harmless geek. Dude got locked up for abusing his partner and assaulting an Officer.

I can see some of those points, lol.

 

[Texas Pride]

These people are going straight batshit insane.

They don't give a shit tbh. But it's telling that if the Right did the same things they'd be called terrorists. Committing violence against others for political beliefs isn't okay no matter who does it.

 

[BANGS]

"I'm not racist, let me prove it by assaulting a brown guy..."

 

[manfestival]

He's clearly "one of the good ones"

He needs to team with Dinesh D'souza and do a pod cast.

I am genuinely interested since you are so obsessed with this guy. Why do you hate him so much? I don't know anything about the guy but I came here for the sensational title.

 

[Corderlain]

He's clearly "one of the good ones"

He needs to team with Dinesh D'souza and do a pod cast.

You're really racist man. Victim blaming, basically calling the dude an uncle tom, "it's ok I'm Indian" that's just bad dude.

 

[Gander]

Translation we can't find ANY dirt on Elizabeth Warren so we are going to make something happen.

This is a disgustingly low level to stoop to but it pleases me that the GOP is this worried about Warren.