Barack Lesnar
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Like Epic or not it's good for us as they seem to be pushing these companies harder and harder for better tech. I wonder how much pull they have.
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Epic: Next-gen launch games will probably stick with Unreal Engine 3
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Like Epic or not it's good for us as they seem to be pushing these companies harder and harder for better tech. I wonder how much pull they have.
That has nothing to do with the fact that UE3 can do 60fps.
fluffydelusions
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Was it running off 3x 580's?
Yeah I'm aware. I was more talking about Bethesda Games Studio. I'm sure we will see some cross exchange of technologies now, Already Human Head studios is using idTech 4 to make Prey 2.
No way, there is always at least a game or two that completely blows away games from the previous generation.
every engine can do 60 fps, lol.
that is not the point.
the next gen comes and no launch game #madewithUE3 will be running at 30 fps. They won't be looking like they are running on UE3 though.
UE2:
I think it's less about iOS and Vita, and more about many (if not most) early next-gen games also appearing on PS3 and 360.
I get that running UE3 at 60fps is a pain, but you just said no when asked if we could see 60fps UE3 games next gen. There's no reason we couldn't is what I'm saying. If someone wanted to make a 60fps game on UE3 next gen, they could.
Its not because of the overuse of the U3 engine its because developers werent bothered to use there own shaders. They just used the shaders available out of the box.
but they wouldn't! running UE3 at 60 fps is no pain, it won't look good on current consoles though. But if they don't improve graphics it wil be running at 60 fps in 1080 with current visuals. But everyone will improve their visuals, include DX11 features and it won't run at 60 fps.
Well duh. If the NextBox and the PS4 are launching next year then launch games are already in development. Since UE4 hasn't actually been released, 3 is the only option for devs using Unreal.
Because people believe that MS & Sony will go balls-to-the-wall with tech, and so far there hasn't been any concrete proof that they're not.
Because people believe that MS & Sony will go balls-to-the-wall with tech, and so far there hasn't been any concrete proof that they're not.
No, if you agree with that post, you're strange.
This post makes absolutely no sense. All you're basically saying is you have to sacrifice visuals for 1080p60, but that rule stands for every engine.
Edit:
Not really, it seems like most people believe MS and Sony will release consoles more powerful than the Wii-U, which is likely. Only the fanboys are delusional to think they'll go balls to the walls like this gen.
CoD still uses that same engine.
Kafka would love our conversation.
jump_button
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:/ I hate how game look on it but 90% looks boring
WiiU will get UE3 games = OMG NINTENDO.WHEN WILL THIS COMPANY LEARN BLABLABLA
NextBox/PS4 will get UE3 games = cool.
how is that not strange?
abracadaver
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Next-gen not powerful enough for UE4
iamshadowlark
Banned
This is to be expected. Someone said it, but UE4 doesn't seem like its running on these new consoles yet.
walking fiend
Member
no, you can't
That's not what happened though.
After the Samaritan demo, people were only fooling themselves if they thought UE3 games wouldn't appear on PS4 or 720. They even said that this is what they think next gen games should look like when referring to the Samaritan demo We had games based on UE2 tech on the PS3 and 360, so this is no different.
lunchwithyuzo
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There hasn't been any concrete proof they are either. There have been several rumors about MS specifically going for a more modest upgrade though, with heavy emphasis on Kinect 2.
UE3 is among the most moddable engines that exist. Have you even opened up UDK
M°°nblade
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Occam's razor
There have been rumors all over the board regarding MS, how do you pick and choose which to believe?
The way I see it, the ps4 and 720 will be roughly equal, much like the 360 and ps3 are now, while the Wii-U turns out to be the Ps2 in performance next gen.
lunchwithyuzo
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It's exactly what happened. When UE3 highlighted Wii U support, a GAF contingent concluded the console incapable of running UE4. Now that UE3 is being linked to other next gen entries, I don't see anyone leaping to the same unsubstantiated conclusion.
UE3 has always been linked to the other next gen entries and no one should be leaping to anything for machines that are 18+ months away.
lunchwithyuzo
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I think that's entirely reasonable, but I also think you're going to see a more modest generational leap overall. There's really not much incentive to break the bank anymore.
lunchwithyuzo
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Not really in the press/public sphere regarding next gen consoles specifically, despite the facts surrounding Samaritan. I agree with your second point though.
I agree entirely, but that doesn't mean there won't or can't be a noticeable gap between Wii-U and PS4/720. A more modest leap is almost unavoidable since there's nothing MS or Sony can do to match the leaps made this gen. We're not going to be getting games running at 4K resolution next gen for example =p
I still think it applies to the press/public sphere too with Mark stating this when first showing the Samaritan demo:
IMO only people overly concerned how their preferred console will stack up or those in lala land have had the wrong idea.
No, I mean most UE3 games are so fucking closed down it's impossible to mod, even though the engine supports it highly.
As has been said, rumors are all over the place and, in the end, they're just that, rumors. Hell, I remember reading "insider" rumors that the Wii would have 3-core processor and be similar to the 360. Historically speaking, MS has had the most or close to the most powerful console on the market (in real world situations, the only meaningful advantage the PS3 holds over the 360 is in disk capacity). They could pull a Wii and favor innovation (read: kinect) over raw power, but it goes against MS's standing console MO (outspend rivals to force them out of the market). Sony's dick-waving contest with MS and their love of being perceived as cutting-edge ensures that they will do all they can to match or exceed MS's next console. Until their official unveiling, we really have no clue as to what MS and Sony will bring next gen.
360 and ps3 hold different advantages over each other, but I agree with this post here.
I still remember that old Wii rumor too, really didn't make sense but at the same time I wanted it to be true. =p
Thanks StevieP, your 3 pics have just established what MS have been wanting since they launched xbox.
MS wanted nothing more than to stall Sony's dominance, nothing more and they achieved it. Although I am sure they are licking themselves with the RROD early launch fiasco as Sony have done most of the damage themselves.
MS want every xbox user to become a Microsoft user with a W8 table, phone, PC and xbox.
Personally I think Apple have beat them to it.
MS wanted nothing more than to stall Sony's dominance, nothing more and they achieved it. Although I am sure they are licking themselves with the RROD early launch fiasco as Sony have done most of the damage themselves.
MS want every xbox user to become a Microsoft user with a W8 table, phone, PC and xbox.
Personally I think Apple have beat them to it.
sixteen-bit
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Better framerates please.
Notice there's no desktop here. Just laptop.Microsoft wants in every living room. They always have, and they always will.
Outspending Sony was a means to a previous end. The previous 'big threat'. The 120+ million selling monster.
Metroui is garbage
dragonelite
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If this is true i would cry so freaking hard.
And those tears will be sad tears. :'(
I can understand why they would use ue3 you need like 2 years or so to finish a nice game.
Technosteve
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People actually care about graphics on Nintendo games?
They do, but only in what the systems limits can achieve.
Didn't this happen with the Xbox 360 / PS3 launch as well?
Epic had their tech demo at E3 2004 but UE3 wasn't ready for more than a year after that demo.
If you license your engine then you are opening yourself up to all sorts of scheduling issues with tech not being ready or being ready much later than anticipated.
Epic had their tech demo at E3 2004 but UE3 wasn't ready for more than a year after that demo.
If you license your engine then you are opening yourself up to all sorts of scheduling issues with tech not being ready or being ready much later than anticipated.