When i look at the limitations of current gen hardware i´m convinced otherwise.
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Epic: Next gen will be a "substantial leap over current gen"
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When i look at the limitations of current gen hardware i´m convinced otherwise.
I love how people are estimating things with a gif.. that could be any resolution and any iq...
The best is how people claim this is not doable on PS4 when other people where saying it wasn't really different from a PS3 game at first.. People and their eyes.. Random!
My take on next gen. We'll be slightly frustrated if the whole launch is about better iq, better models etc... Cause in the end what makes game more impressive is not the resources contest, but more the way thei're used. What will create a real difference is the cumulated effect of modern shaders/techs tricks and the smart use of it.
With what they have in their box, smart devs will be able to dupe us into something way more next gen than it is. I mean, look at Gears of War. It was very probably way more impressive than the 360 was able and known at this time. Cause they specifically used constraints to make it look like something amazing for the time. Same for the epic game on smartphone.
I always see talk about the straight power of next gen consoles and what they can do compared to pc etc.. When it will really be about smart graphic designers and coders in the end. I bet with all that resources available, some of them will be able to trick us into cgi/reality aspect and people will notice the difference, believe me.
The best is how people claim this is not doable on PS4 when other people where saying it wasn't really different from a PS3 game at first.. People and their eyes.. Random!
My take on next gen. We'll be slightly frustrated if the whole launch is about better iq, better models etc... Cause in the end what makes game more impressive is not the resources contest, but more the way thei're used. What will create a real difference is the cumulated effect of modern shaders/techs tricks and the smart use of it.
With what they have in their box, smart devs will be able to dupe us into something way more next gen than it is. I mean, look at Gears of War. It was very probably way more impressive than the 360 was able and known at this time. Cause they specifically used constraints to make it look like something amazing for the time. Same for the epic game on smartphone.
I always see talk about the straight power of next gen consoles and what they can do compared to pc etc.. When it will really be about smart graphic designers and coders in the end. I bet with all that resources available, some of them will be able to trick us into cgi/reality aspect and people will notice the difference, believe me.
iamshadowlark
Banned
Are you calling casuals blind or something?
Most of them probably have their consoles hooked up with RCA cables still.
eso76
Member
Yeah, substantial means nothing honestly.
I was playing crysis 2 on PC months ago (8800 GT back then, now I have a gtx460) and I know someone would consider it a 'substantial' leap from the x360 version, thanks to much better IQ, res, textures and AF.
Indeed the difference was very aapparent, but it's certainly not a generation-worth leap.
I guess we'll see soon enough though.
I was playing crysis 2 on PC months ago (8800 GT back then, now I have a gtx460) and I know someone would consider it a 'substantial' leap from the x360 version, thanks to much better IQ, res, textures and AF.
Indeed the difference was very aapparent, but it's certainly not a generation-worth leap.
I guess we'll see soon enough though.
GayForMaster
Banned
With the feel of 60 fps.
I understand this argument has been used in the past, but I don't believe the situation is the same now.
We've reached a level of realism that is becoming enough for most people. Graphics are less and less in the way of immersion, we're able to depict scenes in a somewhat realist fashion.
Credibility of a non cartoon game is more and more achievable.
There are still major issues, but mostly in the animation, IA and sound department, not so much on the visual level.
Dark_AnNiaLatOr
Member
People are becoming skeptical again. In just 6 days, all will be settled, and everyone will probably be on the same page. I'm sure we'll see a huge leap.
Iots of pre rendered targets I am sure.
NemesisPrime
Banned
Hyper realistic lens flares FTW!
Gemüsepizza
Member
Why? Those games will be out in a couple of months...
Gemüsepizza
Member
Sony had target renders on the E3 press conference in May 2005. This was 1 and a half year before the US/Japan launch of the PS3 and almost 2 years before the European PS3 launch. We have a very different situation now, the PS4 will launch this year. Games will have been in development for 2-3 years then. There won't be any target renders.
iamshadowlark
Banned
I would say maybe cut-scene level in-engine reels at the most. Really no need for CGI these days.
The Abominable Snowman
Member
There's so much more than IQ and Textures.
Higher poly characters and better lighting are just about a generational leap forward as we've seen in some demos and PC mods/games already.
3rdamention
Member
I know it has probably been said but Pachter disagrees!!
Agree visually diminishing returns will become more obvious, animation and physics is where next gen really should be focusing its attention IMO.
I'm sure he won't be able to tell the difference but its Pachter. Not being down on him but visually he can't tell the difference between a ps3 game and a pc game.
somuchwater
Member
So do I, but capitalism doesn't work that way. Are films putting more empahsis on plot, characterization and ideas, or are we seeing more and more nonsensical films with lots of special effects? There's your answer as to what most devs are going to do next gen.
Pachterballs
Banned
this
Uhuh and which companies are making these next gen games for the PC?