For once I agree with Pachter (at least the last line). It is shocking that the hardcore Nintendo fanboys couldn't have caused that first million to fly off the shelves. It really shouldn't have been hard at all. Definitely suggests it's a smaller number than we assumed they were.
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Eurogamer : "Nintendo's Wii U sales struggle"
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Basileus777
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It's not dead, it's just not lighting the west on fire with its middling sales outside of Japan.
I think we are all in for a rude little shock.
The price drop helped, but one would be foolish to deny the impact of certain software. All one has to do is see the effect Animal Crossing has had with the 3DS. It's a replica of its effect with the DS back in the day.
Yep looks like EuroZone decided to deport Mario for good.
AranhaHunter
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That chart is missing the vita. Actually it should be just vita vs wiiu.
What blows my mind is that people compare a handheld and a console that are in no way comparable. The 3DS is basically without competition in it´s handheld "niche", be it in Japan or the rest of the world.
The WiiU competes against 2 of the top 5 best selling consoles ever, which not only offer much more and much better content, but are also available for a lower price.
Meanwhile Wii U electrifies the Japanese charts at a cool 16k and soaring December sales of 400k will surely be sustained for January's NPD's in the US.
The UK is clearly Nintendo's most high profile flop region at the moment, but let's not pretend the UK is some sort of ghetto or a blip on otherwise strong sales elsewhere.
maquiladora
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The alternative to complaining about threads you don't like is not to read them.
Out_Of_Ammo
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I don't have a tablet or smartphone nor do I feel the need to own one.
OldJadedGamer
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3DS would not be where it is if Nintendo didn't go into panic mode like they did and drastically drop the price because the system wasn't selling like they or third parties thought it would.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Wonder if its even hit 100k yet. I had previously thought it would manage to dribble there, but if its at 80k a few weeks ago and no sales to speak of since then... my word. Dead on arrival.
You are but one little person out of billions, fair snowflake.
I'm a Nintendo fan but I'm not going to buy the console right now if:
- it works like molasses (lol at UI load times and OS lock ups)
- there are very few interesting games out right now
- it's $300 with barebones specs.
When Smash Bros. and third party games start to trickle, I'll bite.
Only if people haven't been paying attention to sales for the past 2 years.
Explanations are not my point, you don't sell 30 millions without explanations. My point is 3DS was not broken after its slow start as implied by Eurogamer. It's just... completely wrong.
zomgbbqftw
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I'm just happy we got away from that "sold out" myth. MCV were really pushing that one in the opening weeks.
Out_Of_Ammo
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Now I feel special :3
So you're a hardcore Nintendo fanboy who is waiting for third party games to appear? OK.
In two days we'll have charts. FINALLY. And probably we'll see 3DS did well in Europe, except for UK as you said, if French numbers are a possible indication for other countries.
Majmun
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I remember people actually wanting a Ps3 back then. But the price was just too high. The Ps3 definitely had more hype surrounding it. People were actually talking about it.
WiiU has no hype and there's no demand. Troubling times for Nintendo
zomgbbqftw
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Sony.
MikeE21286
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Nah. It won't die. N64 or GameCube seems more appropriate.
sublimit
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I always thought the PS3 launch and at least its first year was a disaster.But that graph above says otherwise unless i'm missing something.
No he's not paid to say these things at all. His actual job had nothing to do with the games industry. He works in the financial services.
CorporateClown
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About that...
CrunchinJelly
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The launch was decent, it was after that that it struggled.
Nintendo sold 30 million Wii's in Europe
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-01-10-european-wii-sales-pass-30-million-mark
Sony sold 30 million PS3's in Europe and other PAL territories
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-12-19-ps3-reaches-30-million-sales-in-europe-and-pal-places
Clearly europeans like video games and video game consoles, they just do not like the Wii U (right now and may never). Nintendo can still turn it around, nothing is set in stone, but right now, the Wii U is a dud, there is no other way around it.
Always-honest
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Hence the DrE3m announcements last week.
Art Teitlebaum
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Launch numbers are not everything. First year sales will show the development, especially when the other devices come out.
But it's not exaggerated to say that Nintendo should try much harder to push up sales here in Europe. Price, games, promoting are the three options.
Damn, I don't want this thing to go the Vita way.
But it's not exaggerated to say that Nintendo should try much harder to push up sales here in Europe. Price, games, promoting are the three options.
Damn, I don't want this thing to go the Vita way.
The Abominable Snowman
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Nintendo just needs to double up on making the Wii U the supreme Nintendo console. Nothing more, nothing less. and they need to fix the OS. The OS itself feels dated.
Davey Cakes
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I'll be surprised if they don't do at least as well as Wii U or much better, even at their higher price points.
MS and Sony would have to fuck up quite a bit in order to create less hype for their systems and put out worse marketing than Nintendo has for the Wii U.
He's not paid for these types of things.
So at what point does Mr. Iwata and Company begin to think "wholly crap, we may be out of a job. "Because everyone knows in business it's what have you done for me lately. I seriously hope they have a plan to turn this boat around. Granted I think in general Sony and MS will find out the video-game market as a whole is depressed and all three need to do something drastic to fix the situation. I didn't used to believe it, but I think now videogames have lost that "cool tech" factor they had in the past. Maybe it's just part of a changing, more technologically advanced people, but it seems to me that's the case. I think unless there's a major change in display technology or interaction sales will not get better for anyone.
Oh and any analyst who uses the word fanboy deserves to not be taken seriously, and should stick to his day job.
And games, there's many good games, but 2013 start is bad.
Even a new WiiFit U can help a little.
Well it tried to be a Tablet but without most of the things that people love about tablets
for 1 you can't take it with you & use it on the go ,
& 2nd it don't have all the little popular apps & games that are free or cheap on iOS & Android devices.
that might sound silly but I seen this work against the Wii U with my own eyes, my brother asked my nephew if he wanted a Wii U for Christmas & he said "no" I asked him why he didn't want a Wii U & he said "Because you can't take it with you" & proceeded to ask for a Tablet but ended up with a iPod Touch in the end.
for 1 you can't take it with you & use it on the go ,
& 2nd it don't have all the little popular apps & games that are free or cheap on iOS & Android devices.
that might sound silly but I seen this work against the Wii U with my own eyes, my brother asked my nephew if he wanted a Wii U for Christmas & he said "no" I asked him why he didn't want a Wii U & he said "Because you can't take it with you" & proceeded to ask for a Tablet but ended up with a iPod Touch in the end.
Spieler Eins
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UK =/= Whole Europe.
Captain Smoker
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Wii U:
USA: 885.000 (Dec '12)
JAP.: 731.739 (20.01.2013)
Fran.: 118.000 (Dec '12)
UK: 80.000 (Dec '12)
Can.: ~70.000 - 90.000 (Dec '12)
Total: 1.884.739
Germany, Australia, Italy and Spain could add up another 150.000 - 200.000 units.
Rest of the world 50.000 units.
Total could be around 2.000.000 at the end of December 2012.
USA: 885.000 (Dec '12)
JAP.: 731.739 (20.01.2013)
Fran.: 118.000 (Dec '12)
UK: 80.000 (Dec '12)
Can.: ~70.000 - 90.000 (Dec '12)
Total: 1.884.739
Germany, Australia, Italy and Spain could add up another 150.000 - 200.000 units.
Rest of the world 50.000 units.
Total could be around 2.000.000 at the end of December 2012.
It's not really that surprising. Is the Wii U a compelling product at this point in time? I don't think so. Nintendo's biggest problem is they're releasing a mostly traditional console as the successor to what was essentially a gimmick. Traditional gamers have long deserted them and there's no way they're going to replicate the success of the Wii U's predecessor with the casual market.
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