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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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Nothing is sure. I would at least expect them to wait until the Buzz from the ps Meeting and Apples presser have died Down.
We've all gone so crazy that even this would make us party in the streets
Edit: Not to mention the tegra announcement tomorrow (today)
It's not entirely useless, I'm trying to take into account what is plausible to have a game in a 32GB cartridge work in both the portable mode and home console mode of the NX.
We have not heard of any insiders mention that devs have used two different performance modes or having to make two different sets of assets.
I need to know ways assets can be managed that there doesn't need to be 2 sets. For example, there was that thread with a 3DS emulator that showed how good the models looked in Pokémon X/Y/OR/AS when rendering at 1080p.
So again, either what is being developed now is for the docked mode if there is such a thing and the NX handles the GPU down clock with its OS supposedly in portable mode. Or, there is only one mode that is constant in both portable/home and the SCD is needed to internally render at a higher res.
That's why I don't even understand the point of the SCD being there considering the little info Rosti gave us last week. The SCD is needed for its other features but it isn't really needed for better visuals if the NX can change rendering on its own.
Keep in mind if there was an SCD, I don't expect it to be used to give 4K resolution, I don't expect Nintendo to look for that kind of power and the SCD wouldn't be affordable which is what I expect it to be because of its features, not just its power.
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I can tell you now that Nx is supposed to attract an audience that does not want to pay that much.
This could be initial purchase and then maybe add to the device, or give to options of what to purchase.
This could be initial purchase and then maybe add to the device, or give to options of what to purchase.
Pretending you know things is a dangerous game to play. Careful how you word your posts, dude.
Dreamwriter
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I've worked on mobile titles with multiple sets of assets for different screen resolutions. It's quite easy, takes almost no work for artists to do so, and if needed you can even store the various assets "on the cloud", only downloading what is needed.
Bring back the classics
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If I do or not, I am going to say IMO for now.
Thanks for the tips mate!
I fully expect that some of the rumours of rewarding WII u owners with certain initiatives to be true as well. Combining My Nintendo rewards etc and some major loyalty rewards as I think that Nintendo would like as many Wii u owners to adapt to the new Nx platform as fast as possible.
This may give extra confidence in Nintendo die hards who have been burnt buying a Wii u with such short lifespan to the machine.
Thanks for the tips mate!
I fully expect that some of the rumours of rewarding WII u owners with certain initiatives to be true as well. Combining My Nintendo rewards etc and some major loyalty rewards as I think that Nintendo would like as many Wii u owners to adapt to the new Nx platform as fast as possible.
This may give extra confidence in Nintendo die hards who have been burnt buying a Wii u with such short lifespan to the machine.
Bring back the classics
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Of course all this is IMO!
The way you word your posts annoys the heck out of me for some reason. Lol
Well, I meant 2 sets of assets kind of like the character models of Smash 3DS and the Wii U version
broncobuster
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Bit random, but I stumbled upon some android device called the Morphus X300 that's the closest realized idea of the NX I've seen.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBysrZ2v8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KfmBysrZ2v8
Bring back the classics
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Why???
I cannot wait to hear all the talk from hot chips etc this week but IMO I fully expect Nintendo to announce w/c 12 th September!
I cannot wait to hear all the talk from hot chips etc this week but IMO I fully expect Nintendo to announce w/c 12 th September!
That sounds fitting with that rumor that first they wanted to go completely digital only but at the end chose the cartidge way too.
Dagobert Duck
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Why do you sound like a chatbot?
Anyway...still kinda weird that the Eurogamer leak is still the only big one...
My mom's Eurogamer leak lol
As mentioned before, if there was any reason to use the SCD for its power ignoring other features. There'd be no point in using it with the NX at launch if the NX can render at 1080p in docked mode. Unless docked mode is the equivalent of seeing a 3DS game at 1080p compared to a Wii U game at 1080p if you get what I mean with regards to effects and textures etc.
That's why I thought up the scenario of there being only one resolution for the NX and the SCD helps to render at 1080p.
Also, the only other way I can see the SCD being used is say, if in 3 years time, Nintendo releases the next iteration of the NX, the NX2, most likely you can use the SCD with your current NX to try to get some kind of parity with the games run on an NX2 if you don't want to buy an NX2 yet.
Yes, I've taken speculation to the next level to speculate on the NX successor already. lol
That's why I thought up the scenario of there being only one resolution for the NX and the SCD helps to render at 1080p.
Also, the only other way I can see the SCD being used is say, if in 3 years time, Nintendo releases the next iteration of the NX, the NX2, most likely you can use the SCD with your current NX to try to get some kind of parity with the games run on an NX2 if you don't want to buy an NX2 yet.
Yes, I've taken speculation to the next level to speculate on the NX successor already. lol
KojiKnight
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Is it though? If the euro gamer leak was real, you can bet Nintendo has contacted every pay they can to remind them of what their ninjas can do.
That is concerning for some parts.
What happened again once the Wii U leaked?
I can only remember that when the finalised Gamepad got leaked that someone pretty much got fired.
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A bit random, slightly old, but still tangential to the SCD subject, and helps curb the anticipation of the potatoes:
Coherent interconnects are about to come upons us (as in, NVLink was just the beginning)
Coherent interconnects are about to come upons us (as in, NVLink was just the beginning)
Dagobert Duck
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I think its weird, I mean not even a single big site jumped on the bandwagon and revealed something...some commented on the eurogamer leak, yet nothing more substantial got out...Nintendo is really the master of secrecy
Hydrogen Bluebird
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I can't wait for this thing to be revealed. A portable-console hybrid is so interesting to me.
KojiKnight
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There was a long period of silence between initial reveals of the game pad and when we saw the final form.
The play tester who got fired did so for showing the dev unit he played on, which still had the circle pads.
Yeah, there was that. But what about when project Cafe got leaked? I can't remember back to 2011, especially when I wasn't here.
I misunderstood this as I was reading it. Thought for a second you were talking about using the NX dock with the NX2... which would actually be pretty cool. Imagine if the dock had a cooling system, and it was set up so you played the games in 720p on the handheld and 1080p on the dock by using the cooling system for extra power, and when the NX2 came around, you could use it with the old dock to save money.
KojiKnight
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As a WUST survivor, I can't remember a big "confirmed" leak besides the name and rumbles of it being a tri core processor. The game pad reveal caught people off guard if I remember correctly... Between then and the reveal of final hardware, it was a flurry of fake rumors from hundreds of places, and mostly worthless nods from ideaman (though he either revealed or confirmed the 2gb of ram)
The wiiu was reveald at e3 and released in Nov.
Thats about 5month
This means 5 months before the launch.
It could be different for the NX, but it could be the same, They could wait untill Nov. to reveal it. Maybe in sept. we would get the announcement.
Credibility is slinking for EG. But there is still time
Thats about 5month
This means 5 months before the launch.
It could be different for the NX, but it could be the same, They could wait untill Nov. to reveal it. Maybe in sept. we would get the announcement.
Credibility is slinking for EG. But there is still time
One thing I just remembered. Has the NX speculation threads been tame these last couple of years compared to WUSTs in regards to how many people have been banned?
Dark Cloud
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The Wii U was revealed at E3 2011 and launched in November 2012. That was 17 months. I'm sorry I don't see how it makes business sense to reveal a new system in the middle of the holidays.
Either you do it September or January. January seems bad because people will probably say "I just spent so much money on Christmas".
Wii U was significantly leaked as to what to expect on April 15th 2011.
can see the original leak article here
http://www.01net.com/actualites/pro...do-aura-une-tablette-pour-manette-531660.html
can see the original leak article here
http://www.01net.com/actualites/pro...do-aura-une-tablette-pour-manette-531660.html
I hope not, I want NX to have at most a 5.5 inch screen, anything bigger than that would make it too uncomfortable for a handheld device, also if you want a big screen you'll be able to plug it on the TV when home, at least from the rumors we heard.
The Wii U Gamepad was almost a handheld. 6" is likely and it could very well be gamepad sized.
Graphics Horse
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Wow nice find! Great proof of concept. Looks sturdy enough.
WiiU gamepad it's too big to me to carry around, if they really have to release a WiiU gamepad sized version I hope at least they'll do like with the 3DS, a smaller standard NX with 5 inch display, not bigger than a PS Vita overall, and then a XL version for those who don't care about portability
Dark Cloud
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This guy just said the Tegra slides are out
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=214545018
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08/nvidia-tegra-parker-denver-2-arm-pascal-16-nm/
http://m.neogaf.com/showpost.php?p=214545018
https://www.computerbase.de/2016-08/nvidia-tegra-parker-denver-2-arm-pascal-16-nm/
It's surprisngly low profile. Only 2SM cores and 4A57 + 2 Denver, no A72, no 3 or 4 SM. But increased bandwith (i can't read german so i'm not sure on this). Denver is such a bad CPU but i guess Nvidia want to push it.
Need to wait for the presentation for the GFlop numbers and Wattage. I'm expecting about 1GF in 32fp and still around 10 W total. Half that is probably the best of what the NX could be (so like a X1 but in 4-5 W).
Need to wait for the presentation for the GFlop numbers and Wattage. I'm expecting about 1GF in 32fp and still around 10 W total. Half that is probably the best of what the NX could be (so like a X1 but in 4-5 W).
You mean 1TF? But we already saw info that Tegra X1 is 10 Watts at 1TF for FP32. The die shrink is supposed to reduce the wattage by 60% for the new one.
Edit: My mistake, I mean 1TF for FP16 for Tegra X1.
Pascal does 64 Cuda cores per SM instead of the 128 of Maxwell.
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Hm, so these Chips are, at least in this form, not suited for a console or handheld. Let's continue our guessing game then...my guess is either all the rumors were bullshit or Nintendo has asked Nvidia to build a custom made ship for them. What is likely I guess.
Yes, I was thinking this design was 4 SM.
Nvidia wanted a car but, Nintendo decided to build a ship!
Tegra X1 is 1TF at FP16.
Also double memory bandwidth would definitely be something Nintendo would like.
Double memory bandwidth should be a strong incentive to use Parker. I'm curious about TF and wattage.
Why?
Why?
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