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Eurogamer: NX = portable w/ carts, detachable controllers, Tegra, TV Out, no BC, Sept
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The interesting thing about the leaks has been the lack of a Nintendo response. When 01net spilled the beans on Project Café it took Nintendo a week to respond but they did respond.
Right, which is why I am thinking that PSP-like device could well be production parts for the NX, and a PSP/Vita like design actually could work for the sizes we'd need to be ~tablet-esque~ without requiring it to be a tablet or have a 7" screen.
Controlled leak, and with dated/old info to set expectations lower for the reveal.
I'm sticking to my 6" minimum either way. The detachable controllers don't make sense otherwise.
Vanillalite
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I doubt it's tomorrow for news.
That being said they gotta announce plans sooner rather than later if they are doing a live event.
My mind says invites need roughly a 3 week lead time. So you can look at the calendar and do the math.
That being said they gotta announce plans sooner rather than later if they are doing a live event.
My mind says invites need roughly a 3 week lead time. So you can look at the calendar and do the math.
DerekOfTheDykes
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Nintendo's SOP is basically not to respond to any rumors or leaks anymore. They follow the five Ds...
Dodge
Duck
Dip
Dive
Dodge
Detachable controllers don't even seem to make sense in the rumor of origin.
Dark Cloud
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Personally, this whole detachable controllers rumor sounds ugly. I've seen all the mockups and nothing has looked very eye appealing. I hope Nintendo can nail the looks and ergonomics of it.
They announced the last Smash Direct before launch like a month before it happened, they will def announce this earlier then a few days
DerekOfTheDykes
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Yeah, deep down I kind of hope that this is maybe one part of the rumor that was maybe a mistake. Maybe the controller parts detach and connect with a base piece to form one wireless controller, and other controllers are just sold separately? I just have a REALLY HARD TIME picturing it as explained.
But, you know, we won't likely be waiting long. I stick to my theory that we'll see a reveal before the annual conference later in September.
Übermatik;214647039 said:
More accurate for sure
Fourth Storm
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If you're trying to get my hopes up, I'll have you know that I'm quite excited for NX, even as described. Even if the "dock" is the equivalent of the Gamepad charging stand.Controlled leak, and with dated/old info to set expectations lower for the reveal.
Yeah, that makes sense. I guess I'm just wondering that if dev kits are in the hands of major western 3rd parties, why have we not gotten more? But leaks have always been few and far between when it comes to Nintendo hardware, so whatever it is they are doing, I guess I shouldn't be surprised. We got next to nothing on Wii U from June 2011-June 2012 except for three joy-inspiring words: "The sticks click."
What a happy day that was.
Let me try again: NX is gray-goo.
Fourth Storm
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Gray is my favorite color! And goo! Love the farting sounds it makes!
Ok, get serious, Storm. You don't want this thread locked.
Wii U was a massive leak from one studio that has been pretty much overhauled completely since those days.
01net's leak was so massive though it basically laid everything out from the controller to power of the device. The only thing they didn't know was how big the screen was in the gamepad. We may very well only have a small idea of what NX is and Nintendo feels no need to say anything
01net's leak was so massive though it basically laid everything out from the controller to power of the device. The only thing they didn't know was how big the screen was in the gamepad. We may very well only have a small idea of what NX is and Nintendo feels no need to say anything
Spyder_Monkey
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What happened?
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Nothing ever happens in this thread.
netgrimoire
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Nothing ever happens. We just wait...sigh.
Everything. And yet, nothing.
Mmh?
DerekOfTheDykes
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crooked spin
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This thread is...
DragonKnight
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Really hope this thing launches with gc games on the vc. Really want to be able to play Metroid Prime 1 on the go. Its my favorite game.
Speculation, random discussions, and some good tech talk based on the Nvidia stuff. It beat the Wii branding conversation from earlier.
As I've said before, if I share something it'll be obvious. I'm not going to post cryptic teases or anything.
*glares at Rösti*
Guys...
Damn you John Nash. You cracked the code.
My nudes are ready if nothing happens tomorrow. Prepare for the inbox flooding.
Sammy Samusu
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I am not employed in the video game industry and I was previously banned after posting a bunch of questionable NX rumors I collected by talking to people on Twitter.
:lol
:lol
Mr. Pointy
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AR.
Just thought of another use for VMs
What if it's used for advanced AI. Which means in playing a party based RPG you could have up to 7 intelligent companions at a time.
Although it would be a waste of resources on a game that's pushing the limits of graphics technology. Running in half flop mode (16 vs 32) on a simple game (even something like Xenoblade X) could be huge for RPGs where playing as a party is important
What if it's used for advanced AI. Which means in playing a party based RPG you could have up to 7 intelligent companions at a time.
Although it would be a waste of resources on a game that's pushing the limits of graphics technology. Running in half flop mode (16 vs 32) on a simple game (even something like Xenoblade X) could be huge for RPGs where playing as a party is important
https://youtu.be/-IG6wj0xeBk
Many company will go in this before NX arrived.
Nintendo should make something no one make it before or think about it .
Many company will go in this before NX arrived.
Nintendo should make something no one make it before or think about it .
TheGreatMightyPoo
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It's not always about concept but the execution of it.
Funkyhamster
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Some thoughts on VMs and their relevance (or lack thereof) to a Nintendo console. I'm getting a PhD in distributed systems/operating systems, which doesn't mean I know what I'm talking about at all, but I'd like to think it makes my uninformed BS have a slightly higher chance of being accurate:
I think you've got it the wrong way. This tech means one machine can fake being 8 different machines rendering graphics independently. I don't think it would help multiple physical devices share resources in any way.
Yep, you're spot on that this tech doesn't seem too useful in a console/handheld. One video-game related use that I could see for it, though, is being used in the server farms powering cloud gaming/game streaming. Those games are probably already running on VMs, so I can see the appeal in having a chip with low power consumption/heat output that works well with rendering graphics in virtualized environments.
Again, virtualization doesn't help multiple physical devices combine their resources. Precisely the opposite--it helps one physical device fake being multiple computers simultaneously. The idea of running software in a virtual environment, and using that virtualization to make it easier to develop software across iterative releases, is interesting, though. My gut instinct is that it would be easier to just have software development use a set of common libraries that are recompiled to any new architecture, since getting good performance out of virtualization takes a lot of tweaking anyways, but I don't know enough to have a firm idea of what the advantages and disadvantages of each approach are.
Virtualization would do nothing to improve performance for running something like AI, and it would probably actually hurt performance significantly (there's the raw performance penalty of virtualization, and now your 7 AI processes on your 7 different VMs have to pass messages back and forth to communicate with the main game VM).
I think you've got it the wrong way. This tech means one machine can fake being 8 different machines rendering graphics independently. I don't think it would help multiple physical devices share resources in any way.
Yep, you're spot on that this tech doesn't seem too useful in a console/handheld. One video-game related use that I could see for it, though, is being used in the server farms powering cloud gaming/game streaming. Those games are probably already running on VMs, so I can see the appeal in having a chip with low power consumption/heat output that works well with rendering graphics in virtualized environments.
Again, virtualization doesn't help multiple physical devices combine their resources. Precisely the opposite--it helps one physical device fake being multiple computers simultaneously. The idea of running software in a virtual environment, and using that virtualization to make it easier to develop software across iterative releases, is interesting, though. My gut instinct is that it would be easier to just have software development use a set of common libraries that are recompiled to any new architecture, since getting good performance out of virtualization takes a lot of tweaking anyways, but I don't know enough to have a firm idea of what the advantages and disadvantages of each approach are.
Virtualization would do nothing to improve performance for running something like AI, and it would probably actually hurt performance significantly (there's the raw performance penalty of virtualization, and now your 7 AI processes on your 7 different VMs have to pass messages back and forth to communicate with the main game VM).
lwilliams3
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Like the Sega Nomad.
Skittzo0413
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Reminder, no one should be expecting an official announcement of the reveal date tomorrow. At best we will see reports of press invites going out, and at worst the NX will travel back in time to kill John Conner thus dooming humanity.
Edit: sorry no inside info, just using logic.
Edit: sorry no inside info, just using logic.
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Why do you say this?
EDIT: To be clear, I personally don't expect anything. But I also don't expect nothing. Basically. I figure it'll be a surprise whenever it does happen. So I'm just curious why you say it won't happen tomorrow. Because press invites will go out before an official event announcement?
Grasping at the little bits of official info we have here, I remember that Reggie was on some gaming show showing off BOTW, and he mentioned the NX, and how there'd be an event at [insert time here] where they would tell us the "real name" of NX, etc. I'm not sure exactly what he said though...does anyone remember this footage / have a link to it?
Skittzo0413
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Since they have no reason to publicly announce the event this far ahead of time. Hell, Sony still hasn't officially announced their event, they let the press do it for them.
I don't mean to say that it's impossible that we get an official announcement, just pretty unlikely.
I think we're all just at the bargaining stage and hoping that every single tomorrow will bring news.
But it's also because tomorrow/today/August 23 is 3 weeks before the likeliest pre TGS date, and apparently Nintendo send out press invites about 3 weeks ahead of time...
But yeah I'm not expecting anything, just hoping.
Well, perhaps Nintendo is tired of being doomed and wants to turn the tables on us all.
IntelliHeath
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Exactly. I can't even emphasize how important it is to keep your friends or sources' secrets to yourself if you really care about their jobs and their lives.
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