marc^o^ said:Phil Harrison: if you talk to retail they'll tell you what we paid them to tell you
fastest-selling machine to ten million units
Exactly. There are so many reasons to love Sony, why do they always have to spoil everything with manipulation tricks?Ghost said:fixed.
marc^o^ said:Eurogamer: Moving on to the PSP, how do you think it's gone now we're three months on from launch? What do you make of the reports Nintendo DS is outselling it?
Phil Harrison: Well that's factually incorrect. PlayStation Portable has been the fastest-selling machine to ten million units. We are bringing in plane-loads of PSPs into Europe and the US as we speak in order to satisfy the demand in the run-up to Christmas, and if you talk to retail they'll tell you it's the hottest-selling piece of hardware right now - by far and away the number one demanded product in stores this Christmas.
Factually incorrect? Ask retailers what they think?
That's why we need NPD figures to be made public. Lies must be confronted to real facts.
Taker666 said:Well if he's speaking in terms of the UK market then he's probably more or less correct as the PSP has been outselling the DS slightly for the last few weeks.
I can't believe the same is true for the rest of Europe as if you look at Amazon France and Germany, the DS is usually way ahead of the PSP in terms of both hardware and software.
Even in UK, DS has been overall outselling PSP these last 9 weeks:Taker666 said:Well if he's speaking in terms of the UK market then he's probably more or less correct as the PSP has been outselling the DS slightly for the last few weeks.
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marc^o^ said:Should we applaud Sony for building hype on lies? Or react as we are doing here?
SolidSnakex said:We should applaud them for how easily they can get their competitors and their competitors fanboys worked up.
marc^o^ said:Even in UK, DS has been outselling PSP these last 9 weeks:
DS PSP
15-Oct-05 24.5 18.7
22-Oct-05 23.0 8.0
29-Oct-05 30.0 12.9
05-Nov-05 35.0 16.0
12-Nov-05 40.0 12.0
19-Nov-05 44.0 62.0
26-Nov-05 54.5 57.0
03-Dec-05 63.0 79.0
10-Dec-05 77.0 69.0
So you see, this kind of bullshit statement worked on you. And you can now be sure all magazines will continue to report PSP is the leader... 10 millions PSP owners...
Should we applaud Sony for building hype on lies? Or react as we are doing here?
I'm not a Sony sheep so I react: build hype on lies is bad. Period.SolidSnakex said:We should applaud them for how easily they can get their competitors and their competitors fanboys worked up.
PhoenixDark said:Bullcrap and he knows it. The PSP has not sold 10million units worldwide; that's impossible.
Ignatz Mouse said:Just remember that this is in the UK.
That said, I remember when Phil Harrison wasn't a corporate yes-man, but a guy with vision. This article pisses me off in so many ways...
Haha touché Snake. TouchéSolidSnakex said:We should applaud them for how easily they can get their competitors and their competitors fanboys worked up.
Yeah, not a great interview, but let's not assume he converted to the darkside in one step.Ignatz Mouse said:That said, I remember when Phil Harrison wasn't a corporate yes-man, but a guy with vision. This article pisses me off in so many ways...
Let's not single them out as if they're any different from any of the other major corporations in the gaming biz in this regard. If you don't like the practice, please call it out whenever you see it, not when a specific company does it.marc^o^ said:There are so many reasons to love Sony, why do they always have to spoil everything with manipulation tricks?
True indeed.kaching said:Let's not single them out as if they're any different from any of the other major corporations in the gaming biz in this regard. If you don't like the practice, please call it out whenever you see it, not when a specific company does it.
Oh I'd do that, and you'd do it too. I hope it won't become a common trend though.kaching said:Let's not single them out as if they're any different from any of the other major corporations in the gaming biz in this regard. If you don't like the practice, please call it out whenever you see it, not when a specific company does it.
Hey, you know a french word, niceSolid said:Haha touché Snake. Touché![]()
Clearly next year the emphasis will start to shift, and we will start to share with you at the appropriate time a lot of the cool things about PS3. We also perhaps didn't feel the need to be overly scared into making any announcements just because somebody else had launched beforehand - that wasn't part of our plans and isn't part of our plans.
DarienA said:Well said... IMO.
DarienA said:Well said... IMO.
Ignatz Mouse said:We should applaud *you* for that avatar!
Makes sense. But goes against everything that they did at their E3 presser. This is nothing but PR craptalk. Whether you agree with it or not.Razoric said:He said pretty much what a lot of us were predicting too. No new PS3 information this year because they want all customer focus on PS2 / PSP for christmas.
PhatSaqs said:Makes sense. But goes against everything that they did at their E3 presser. This is nothing but PR craptalk. Whether you agree with it or not.
kaching said:Yeah, not a great interview, but let's not assume he converted to the darkside in one step.
Razoric said:It's an interview with a corperate exec, of course it's PR crap talk.
There's a difference between PR spin and outright lies. ;-)kaching said:Yeah, not a great interview, but let's not assume he converted to the darkside in one step.
Let's not single them out as if they're any different from any of the other major corporations in the gaming biz in this regard. If you don't like the practice, please call it out whenever you see it, not when a specific company does it.
This is a great example of spin. Factually, he's correct, but as a percentage of hardware sold, MS is much higher. It takes something that could be negative, and puts a positive light on it. The PSP quote on the other hand, is just laughable.Eurogamer: Would you say Sony missed the boat with online gaming in this generation, given the relative success of Live compared to PS2 Online? Is that a balance you're hoping to redress in the next generation?
Phil Harrison: I've always been very admiring of some of the things Microsoft has managed to do with their branding and some of the consumer elements of their service, but it's always important to remember that more people play online games through PlayStation 2 than any other consoles. On a worldwide basis it is the most popular online console by virtue of the size of the installed base.
marc^o^ said:Oh I'd do that, and you'd do it too. I hope it won't become a common trend though.
VanMardigan said:Phil Harrison=Peter Moore.
I couldn't ever tell them apart in print.