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[Deps]

Tekken numbers are beautiful, good shit.

 

[Kashiwaba]

Marvel 3 dropped in % of entrants across 7 EVOs as much as SFV did in 1 year...

In other words Marvel 3 highest number of attendees in EVO is worse that SFV worst year it's a two way street :0

 

[PAULINK]

Sad to hear about this, though I registered for three tournaments this year! Second evo I'm going to.

 

[ec0ec0]

last year, melee + smash4 = 34,17% of the entrants

this year, melee + smash4 = 29,26% of the entrants

 

[Ardenyal]

SFV not reaching all platforms and WiiU being dead can't be helping either

SFV is still higher than SF4 ever was.

 

[cordy]

Fuck yeah, Tekken rising up!!

As for the other games and their drops, sheesh. I didn't expect it to look like this, lawd.

 

[Line_HTX]

That Taken 7 with the only net positive jump and 133%! HOLY SHIT, Shit, shit.

aaaAAAaaa!

 

[Neoxon]

Injustice 2 not matching MKX's debut year numbers (1162, in case you're wondering) is concerning, but at least it's an increase from MKX's 707 entrants from last year.

 

[SalvaPot]

Taking the price into account I am not surprised numbers got down, that hurts a lot. Probably for the best since organization is going to be easier.

 

[Donos]

Yeah, last year it was $20 plus $10 per game. This year I believe it started at $65 plus $10 per game. And finals tickets were an extra $60 both years as well.

Damn, probably should add this to the op.

 

[KingBroly]

Yeah, last year it was $20 plus $10 per game. This year I believe it started at $65 plus $10 per game. And finals tickets were an extra $60 both years as well.

Huh. I thought it was more expensive than that. Last year's numbers are probably WHY it's so much more expensive; to make it prohibitive.

 

[Nanashrew]

Price hike really did a number on this turnout. Geeze.

 

[Vice]

Huh. I thought it was more expensive than that. Last year's numbers are probably WHY it's so much more expensive; to make it prohibitive.

For the first few weeks It was $20 the increase wasn't too bad either iirc but I can't find what the increases were.
http://shoryuken.com/2016/02/18/evo-2016-registration-now-open/

Edit: Last year a good chunk, 2250+, of the tickets were sold in the first four days.
http://m.neogaf.com/showthread.php?t=1188251

 

[Leafhopper]

Evo becoming more expensive coupled with some of the poor management of some games I hear from last year, I can't be too surprised by the drop in some numbers.

Not to mention more than every other annual tournaments are stepping up there game. Combo Breaker, CEO, and CEOtaku are for example are only improving. Evo, personally I don't think matters as much as it used to tbh.

EDIT: Also I keep forgetting they use Mandalay Bay for the finals, shit's expensive.

 

[Busaiku]

BlazBlue's last Evo (2014) was 508, so it's actually relatively consistent.

 

[Kane1345]

Wow at that price hike

 

[Producer]

What about those flash sales though

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

Injustice 2 not matching MKX's debut year numbers (1162, in case you're wondering) is concerning, but at least it's an increase from MKX's 707 entrants from last year.

You think it has to do with I2's zoning meta game killing people's interest?

 

[Dimitri LH]

Here is hoping no game gets problems, I cant remember if it was last year or 2015 where Smash 4 was kinda of a mess for multiple reasons. =(

 

[sixteen-bit]

Street Forgotten V

 

[notaskwid]

Considering the price is 3 times higher, sounds like a net positive.

 

[LaNaranja]

Yikes that King of Fighters number.

 

[Renekton]

Question. What is the reason for the big SMASH dropoff?

 

[OTIX]

Just wanted to point out that the percentages in the OP are completely wrong. The ones from twitter are correct.

 

[Mr. Pointy]

Question. What is the reason for the big SMASH dropoff?

Probably higher ticket prices + Wii U being dead.

 

[GeoNeo]

Other tournaments are run better & offer a better attending experience. Evo is not the only show in town no more. Not the best idea going with huge price hike.

 

[Jamie OD]

Question. What is the reason for the big SMASH dropoff?

High ticket prices and probably a switch in focus to other tournaments like GENESIS.

 

[ElBoxyBrown]

The Gamecube is also dead yet that's never stopped Melee.

 

[MatrixMan.EXE]

SFV's drop is huge, but also expected. It was fresh last year with a far more active players. Expect a similar drop with Tekken next year. Having said all of that, it's looking to be another damn good tournament.

 

[Alucrid]

I don't see how the Wii u being dead contributes to a 50 pecent drop off.

 

[NotLiquid]

I'm wondering whether the EVO team were fully anticipating this. Maybe 2016 was too much for them.

Tekken 7 bump isn't too surprising and is nice to see. I think the biggest news here is Guilty Gear. Somehow despite being one of the much more niche fighters in the lineup, they've held tremendously despite the price increase on top of being a Saturday game now.

Guilty Gear fan base is fucking dedicated and really highlight how BlazBlue has fallen to the wayside tremendously in comparison. Putting Central Fiction on Sunday is looking like one hell of a mistake. I expect Rev 2 to be back next year on the Sunday slot.

Question. What is the reason for the big SMASH dropoff?

Pricing. Keep in mind that outside of Smash-centric events the average entry numbers for Smash games in supermajors tend to hover around 800-1000, with Smash 4 usually erring it out in FGC-wide events. The Smash numbers EVO are pulling here are more closely comparable to the likes of GENESIS, The Big House and Super Smash Con which has always been the "upper end" of Smash tourney entrants. Wii U being dead has nothing to do with it imo.

 

[Hierophant]

Hope DB Fighter Z becomes huge

 

[SargerusBR]

Fighting games are dead.

 

[TheTylerRob]

The Gamecube is also dead yet that's never stopped Melee.

Melee was literally "revived" by evo 2013. Brawl killed its scene for a bit. Smash 4 revival coming in 2023.

 

[Enter The 36 Chambers]

No KI this year? Wow fuck that. I'm not watching at all in that case

 

[Atreides]

Yeah, last year it was $20 plus $10 per game. This year I believe it started at $65 plus $10 per game. And finals tickets were an extra $60 both years as well.

45$ seems like a drop in the bucket when you take into account travel and lodging. I don't think it is a good explanation for the drop.

 

[random25]

Smash 4 fiasco last year at Evo may have contributed to the decline as well. It's actually good that it decreased so that managing the tournaments will be easier to the organizers.

 

[Kadey]

And there is this guy named Trump who isn't making visitors travel easily over to here.

 

[NotLiquid]

Smash 4 fiasco last year at Evo may have contributed to the decline as well. It's actually good that it decreased so that managing the tournaments will be easier to the organizers.

What fiasco?

 

[Zack Zavage]

Damn, those numbers make me worry.

Congrats to Tekken though.

 

[Rhaknar]

Marvel Infine will have the highest number of entries next year, around 4000...

...which is also the number of copies the game will sell unfortunately :3

I kid I kid.

Spoiler

 

[random25]

What fiasco?

Lots of complaints last year regarding how things were run.

 

[Xevren]

You think it has to do with I2's zoning meta game killing people's interest?

Highly doubt it. More curious if its because of the lack of Sunday finals, they've been pretty vocal about it.

 

[Kadey]

They should rename the tournament Devolution. Womp womp womp.

EVO will still be hype. Punk, Mango, make me proud.

 

[Ikon]

As a spectator I think I'd rather watch this kind of tournament compared to last year's. Endless pool play with mostly known outcomes isn't terribly exciting. Those SFV numbers still mean there's room for upsets though, so it's not just the usual suspects.

 

[Crayolan]

Probably higher ticket prices + Wii U being dead.

Wii U being dead can't be used an excuse when Melee is played on Gamecubes and CRTs.

 

[Pop-O-Matic]

Wii U being dead can't be used an excuse when Melee is played on Gamecubes and CRTs.

If Melee ever gets ported, I totally expected it to outnumber all other games combined.

 

[SatoAilDarko]

If Melee ever gets ported, I totally expected it to outnumber all other games combined.

I hope this is a joke. The vast majority of people who buy Smash wouldn't prefer a version with less characters and stages.

 

[SargerusBR]

If Melee ever gets ported, I totally expected it to outnumber all other games combined.

Melee hype ain't THAT big.

 

[Hyun Sai]

Nothing to see here. Price is way more expensive than last year + Tekken 7 just released and people prefer play offline on this one for obvious reasons.