InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well it is possible they wont focus on that route, but then it'd kinda lose it's loose appeal since the source material was bland...we're talking about Yosuga no Sora right?Branduil said:
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Fall 2010 Anime Thread: Reboots, Retreads, and Rediscovery
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InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
That show isn't about incest!
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
I'd prefer it if the normal brother sister relationship stayed intact. I'm okay with the MC going for the friend as well.Dresden said:
Hellsing321
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Well it hasn't ended yet. Only on Vol 6 of the novels. Still plenty of chances for good old fashioned family incest.Vox-Pop said:
As well as mention that GAINAX is making it.cosmicblizzard said:
Yeah all "big" shows like star driver and panty&stocking should get their own threads. Although i distinctly remember it being that way for years here as shows like gundam 00, macross frontier, xamdou, gurren lagann, eureka seven etc all had separate threads from the season discussion.duckroll said:
Yeah i think i know someone whose going be really disappointed when they watch it. :lol
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
It's not like they had much to go on from the original material.Dresden said:
There is a genuine incest show airing next season, actually: Yosuga no Sora. The fact that the main character and his sister are twins should make it even more exciting for you incest-tards.
Damn, beaten.
Dresden said:
Damn, beaten.
mysticwhip
Banned
I'll be watching Bakuman.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Well it's probably going to be boring like the last two versions, so everyone can skip it without worry.7Th said:
I know it is friend! I'm going to be watching it as well.luka said:It's cute.
I realized most of my annoyance at LOGH stems from that fact that I recently burned through Novik's Temeraire series over this summer.
The Temeraire series is about dragons in the Napoleonic era.
The only hand waving is how the dragons manage to fly, and how the populace feeds these dragons on Europe's limited landmass. Otherwise, the dragons feature significantly into the strategies and tactics typical of Napoleonic Era warfare. There was clearly a lot of thought put into the impact of viable aerial combat that predates armored vehicles. And the logical conclusion of such are evident in
Warfare is made more visceral by the main characters' personal participation in armed conflicts. Although there are military leaders that display the kind of idiotic bravado so pervasive in LOGH, their motives are explained in much more detail and they are plausible as products of their environments, rather than shallow, anachronistic idiots. Mixed with this is political commentary that, like the war elements, take into account the different ways two sentient species might coexist. In fact, half the series is dedicated to exploring the cultural impact of dragons on human cultures.
Despite the effort placed into making the warfare and politics realistic, Novik also crafts a cast of very believable characters. In LOGH, most of the secondary characters feel like they're there simply to make the main characters look better, or are walking plot devices. In Temeraire, it is not difficult to imagine most of the secondary characters having separate lives, before the events of the books, and while they're offscreen.
Temeraire achieves a feeling of "epicness" that LOGH, so far, has not even come close to duplicating.
The Temeraire series is about dragons in the Napoleonic era.
The only hand waving is how the dragons manage to fly, and how the populace feeds these dragons on Europe's limited landmass. Otherwise, the dragons feature significantly into the strategies and tactics typical of Napoleonic Era warfare. There was clearly a lot of thought put into the impact of viable aerial combat that predates armored vehicles. And the logical conclusion of such are evident in
Napoleon's victory over Russia and dominance over all of Europe except for England.
Warfare is made more visceral by the main characters' personal participation in armed conflicts. Although there are military leaders that display the kind of idiotic bravado so pervasive in LOGH, their motives are explained in much more detail and they are plausible as products of their environments, rather than shallow, anachronistic idiots. Mixed with this is political commentary that, like the war elements, take into account the different ways two sentient species might coexist. In fact, half the series is dedicated to exploring the cultural impact of dragons on human cultures.
Despite the effort placed into making the warfare and politics realistic, Novik also crafts a cast of very believable characters. In LOGH, most of the secondary characters feel like they're there simply to make the main characters look better, or are walking plot devices. In Temeraire, it is not difficult to imagine most of the secondary characters having separate lives, before the events of the books, and while they're offscreen.
Temeraire achieves a feeling of "epicness" that LOGH, so far, has not even come close to duplicating.
I dunno, LOGH has its flaws, and they seem to really bother Haly. Personally, I felt that craziness persisted as it did simply because the Chaos Switch was still left on.Lafiel said:I haven't read this Temeraire series but it's a bit harsh to compare it to directly to LOGH when you haven't even finished the first season of LOGH yet.
It's a really slow buildup though. I mean Temeraire has had 7 books so far. I've read 6 of them. One book is like 14% of the series. I've also watched 20 episodes of LOGH, which is about 18%. In one book, Novik achieves a complete narrative arc that displays all the features I mentioned my the post. LOGH, so far, is subsisting solely on the strength of its characters. They're good characters, and characters worth watching 110 episodes for, but the flaws are really evident and will probably mar my perception of the rest of the series.Lafiel said:I haven't read this Temeraire series but it's a bit harsh to compare it to directly to LOGH when you haven't even finished the first season of LOGH yet.
Also what's this Chaos Switch thing.
The reason I'm holding up LOGH to the narrative standards of a novel is mostly because it takes itself so seriously. I can swallow stuff like Code Geass and generic harem animu #1543 no problem because they don't make themselves appear to be more than they really are. But LOGH, everything feels like "serious business". The length, the tone, narration, characters, setup, motives, etc. It's hard to see it as "just another good anime" when it tries so hard to be, I dunno, meaningful.
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Alright, you notify us of which one is the hot episode so we can avoid the bland story.shidoshi said:
DrForester
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OP pic is nice, but lacks Zakuro representation....
You know, I'll try this out. I'm primarily following Panty, Stocking, & Garter Belt for its zany Powerpuff Girls meets FLCL looking antics, but that doesn't mean I won't try something different if it's fun. It's gonna be the second time I (try to) keep up with a series as it premiers so I hope everyone here has room for one more new guy.
Oh good, a deus ex plot device.Hitokage said:
That is significantly more acceptable than offering no explanation whatsoever.
I was musing about why I thoroughly enjoyed Bakemonogatari more than I'm enjoying LOGH. I think animation plays a big part, as well, as perception. Bakemonogatari is clearly a character drama from start to finish, it doesn't try to be anything else and thus leaves unnecessary details out. Just like Jexhius said, people in LOGH don't mention FTL travel because it's assumed that it's a ubiquitous part of the setting. Still, I think making it a space opera interjects a lot of needless fluff, just to make it seem more "cool" when the real story is about a couple guys finding their place in life and engaging in mental wrestling.
TheKaeptain
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:lol :lol :lol :lol You guys never stop taking. This thread has grown fast, too fast for me.
I thought of Death Note a lot while watching LOGH. Seeing Yang vs Reinhard, Seigfried and co. doesn't feel like an epic space war so much as a couple of prodigies playing Go at the park. Except Wenli is playing multiple games at the same time, so this makes him awesome.Branduil said:
Tell me, does LOGH ever end up like Asimov's Foundation series or Scott Card's Ender's Game series?
DrForester
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Yeah his complaints are fairly reasonable, some of them i never really paid attention or thought about though because as repeated before "it's a space opera!" :lolHitokage said:
Ah, i think some of the flaws won't persist as much in the later parts of the series. But i don't really think the series has a slow-build up at the start. You honestly haven't seen the best the show has to offer in terms of writing and awesomeness though.
I doubt you'll be disappointed with the characterization of the series by the end, especially since you are so early in the series - I'm pretty sure you haven't seen shit at this point.
It is a novel series anyway. Nothing wrong with that.
What do you mean by this?
InfiniteNine
Rolling Girl
Seeing this so much kinda killed it for me: "(disc only, no packaging)"DrForester said:
I think LOGH is only the second space opera I've seen other than star wars, so I'm pretty new to the conventions of the genre. I'm treating it like hard sci fi, which is a hard mentality to shake given the premisis.
At the end of Ender's Game
Basically it's the hard sci fi equivalent of when power levels go out of control in shounen.
At the end of Foundation
A robot possess a human child that was genetically enhanced so they can manipulate thermal energy using specialized organs. This effectively gives them the ability to violate the law of entropy and immortality. The robot is planning to use this power to make the denizens of the Galaxy (all humans or human descendants) into some kind of galactic meta-mind in order to safeguard against sentient species from other galaxies
At the end of Ender's Game
the interstellar internet gains sentience and the ability to tap into the primordial ooze from which the universe is born. "She" becomes able to create matter and energy simply through intent and effectively becoming a god who then leaves the universe of her birthplace to create her own.
Basically it's the hard sci fi equivalent of when power levels go out of control in shounen.
DrForester
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InfiniteNine said:
I moved a bunch of my older volume anime to thinpack cases to take up less shelf space (Utena, Card Captor Sakura, Kenshin, etc.). I'd like to print some better covers for them, but all it did originally was cut down the original boxart to fit.
Only watched Crest and a few episodes of Banner I. It is MUCH much better than LOGH. The scale (of the show, not the overarching story) is perfectly suited to how much development the main characters get. Interstellar politics gets just enough attention it needs to give context to the characters' actions, without ever usurping the main focus. The ass pull technology is tolerable, and even innovative for how it handles interstellar combat.
Basically I see LOGH as a sort of drawn out and less polished version of the Crest/Banner series.
Basically I see LOGH as a sort of drawn out and less polished version of the Crest/Banner series.
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