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Fall 2010 Anime Thread: Reboots, Retreads, and Rediscovery

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Lain said:
The anime had the serious bits here and there, with the bastards up there in the sky, but it usually doesn't last long, so it never felt too prominent compared to the rest of what was shown.
I would say that's true of the manga as well.
 
Oh god, this is why I don't look up space opera in my anime book :

Infinite Ryvius, an Evangelion clone set...
LOL LOL LOL. I stopped reading here.

Man, Kouji can be a bit of a snappish dick on the bridge sometimes. I like it.
And fairly insensitive. S'all good.

If it ends well, it will be a very easy show to recommend,
 
DragonBall Heroes sadly is a Datacarddas Game only it seems. The design models I posted in the summer thread were indeed for some commercials. You can view the first (great looking) commercial in the series here. That commercial happens to have the frame that my avatar is from. DragonBall Heroes' website can be found here.

Man, this is all creating hype for that special in Raging Blast 2. So much nice and new animation. I don't even care that RB2 and its special will be junk.
 
Prime crotch said:
Already did, and it's pretty cool and would be a better show if they had more episodes; after all the talk about how crap it was I was actually pleasantly surprised
Pleaseantly surprised by the 2nd season or by the Gaiden OVA?
anyway I wish there were more to that Anime. They still haven't explained the real reeason of the contracter outbreak and what really happend in Brazil. There are so many plotholes that I want to know :(

And i hope BONES create as good Anime as that. Apart from FMA, this and Sword of Stranger. They haven't made a decent Anime since Oouran :(
 
cosmicblizzard said:
Finally got around to watching the first episode of TWGOK. Seems interesting enough. Probably gonna end up reading the manga though.

You're doing yourself a favor :D . The anime adaptation isn't bad at all. Everyone should give it a try, it's definitely not your standard harem. Hell the girls don't even fight over or cling to him. Some people might be put off and be like, oh it's some otaku getting girls by using paths from eroge (they are galge not eroge) but it couldn't be further from the truth.
It's a really refreshing take on the harem. It includes some stereotypes like the library girl but, the interesting parts are how he wins over the "captures" instead of effortlessly creating a massive wave of fangirls. Again I encourage anyone who hasn't seen it yet or has an interest and hasn't watched to give it a shot, you won't regret it.
 
Solune said:
You're doing yourself a favor :D . The anime adaptation isn't bad at all. Everyone should give it a try, it's definitely not your standard harem. Hell the girls don't even fight over or cling to him. Some people might be put off and be like, oh it's some otaku getting girls by using paths from eroge (they are galge not eroge) but it couldn't be further from the truth.
It's a really refreshing take on the harem. It includes some stereotypes like the library girl but, the interesting parts are how he wins over the "captures" instead of effortlessly creating a massive wave of fangirls. Again I encourage anyone who hasn't seen it yet or has an interest and hasn't watched to give it a shot, you won't regret it.
Yeah, unlike most harem protagonists he doesn't bland the girls into submission. :lol

The latest episode was great. Loved seeing Keima dropping his galge knowledge.
 
Interactive Fiction said:
Sora no Otoshimono & its sequel have some quirks I cannot stand in anime.

1) The main character has half naked robot slaves living with him, yet never makes a move on them, instead obsessing over his porno magazines and trying to sneak into bath houses for peaks at naked women.

2) There is an amazing lack of reaction from everyone else that robot slaves with wings live with him and go to school with him. His classmates just seem to take it in stride.

Other than that, it's good for a few laughs.

1 is that he doesn't consider them to be real women. And at least that's honest, because unless you are a furry, that's the normal reaction to have.

2 is just standard magical girlfriend/harem reaction. Fox girls, cat girls, robot girls, alien girls, soda can girls, it's all the same.

It's like how video game protagonists like to murder thousands of people in video games but that's not considered anti-social behaviour in terms of a game's reality. Nathan Drake is a fucking psychopath if you think about it. :lol
 
So I watched the second P&S episode... really disappointing. Both halves were pretty bad. If the next one is bad too I think I'm dropping it.

Why does everything I get hyped for and/or like at the start always turn out crappy ;___;
 
Watched the first World God only knows episode. Interesting concept, the episode didn't exactly wow me, but i can see potential for greatness. Will try and keep up with this.

Oh yes a question i was tired as hell last night and might have missed this
but every time he captures a girl they lose their memories after wards correct?
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Watching Kimagure Orange Road and Mad Men at the same time is putting me into a fashion headspin. It's a good thing I don't have to go anywhere fancy because I'd probably walk out the house wearing a pink waistcoat and a black fedora.
Interesting coincidence because i am watching mad men right now, but not kimagure orange road alongside it.:lol

So I watched the second P&S episode... really disappointing. Both halves were pretty bad. If the next one is bad too I think I'm dropping it.
Blasphemy! >_>
 
Lafiel said:
Watched the first World God only knows episode. Interesting concept, the episode didn't exactly wow me, but i can see potential for greatness. Will try and keep up with this.

Oh yes a question i was tired as hell last night and might have missed this
but every time he captures a girl they lose their memories after wards correct?
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They lose their memory, yes. Although that changes later on in the series.
 
Not enough guys. How many guys are there I don't remember any guys except faceless mooks. And Yui's bodyguards.
 
If that Crunchyroll list actually any indication of quality, then Iron Man would be on top. As usually, people have shit tastes.
 
I... I can't remember any other guys except for that one partner (which I just got reminded of.) :lol :lol

Guys are unnecessary though :-|
 
Dresden said:
I think one of the devils (the older, sluttier one) had a male partner.
He is so beyond a non character I only remember him as "Nora's Partner".

Truth, there's no need for guys. It's not like any of them can possibly be a match for the capturing god.
 
I think it'd at least break up the predictability if he had to capture a "guy" anyway and Japanese anime conventions around homosexuality are always hilarious to watch.

Although I guess pandering/parodying fyujoshi tastes is just as awkward as what they're doing now. :lol

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Motto To Love Ru - I remember saying that this sounded like Scott Pilgrim in so much as the dude has to fight ex boyfriends or whatever, but at the moment it just seems like an anthology of self-contained ecchi stories. Squid Girl + harem basically.
 
What are they doing now. It's a harem without all the "does he like me do I like him" bullshit that drags on for half the series before they even hold hands. Or the same gags over and over and over again. It tries to stay fresh, taking the same formula and applying it different ways each arc.

He's macking on girls left and right and he'll never have to lose his head over them unlike some other harem lead I could mention.

Okay except maybe Elsea but she didn't mean to! Her head's on the line as well.

If you guys call this wish fulfillment then I guess it's the first wish fulfillment story for people who are completely confident in their ability to get into girls' pants. Really, what kind of otaku can relate directly to Keima? He's a goddamn teenage Casanova.

Typical Harem: Extraordinary stuff happens to loser guy and girls are all over him for no reason
TWGOK Harem: Eroge nerd shapes the world and people around him according to his ideals with social engineering and style.
 
firehawk12 said:
Motto To Love Ru - I remember saying that this sounded like Scott Pilgrim in so much as the dude has to fight ex boyfriends or whatever, but at the moment it just seems like an anthology of self-contained ecchi stories. Squid Girl + harem basically.

You're watching the sequel first?
 
Maybe if I play more galge....

EDIT: firehawk, I've never read Scott Pilgrim, but besides a few chapters here and there, TO Love Ru isn't like that... at all XD It's mostly self-contained stories (with loads of fanservice) :lol
 
Halycon said:
If you guys call this wish fulfillment then I guess it's the first wish fulfillment story for people who are completely confident in their ability to get into girls' pants. Really, what kind of otaku can relate directly to Keima? He's a goddamn teenage Casanova.

I think it's because the series posits the hypothesis that playing enough Love Plus will enable you to "flag" every girl in sight.

cosmicblizzard said:
You're watching the sequel first?
It's new and I'm bored. What the hell, right?

zoku88 said:
EDIT: firehawk, I've never read Scott Pilgrim, but besides a few chapters here and there, TO Love Ru isn't like that... at all XD It's mostly self-contained stories (with loads of fanservice) :lol
Fair enough. I guess I should give it props for being honest like SnO then. :lol
 
firehawk12 said:
I think it'd at least break up the predictability if he had to capture a "guy" anyway and Japanese anime conventions around homosexuality are always hilarious to watch.

Although I guess pandering/parodying fyujoshi tastes is just as awkward as what they're doing now. :lol


the nearest it ever went was a soul swap mixup and he started to like playing the male equivalent of the galge games due to being stuck in the girl's body
:lol
 
Infinite Justice said:
the nearest it ever went was a soul swap mixup and he started to like playing the male equivalent of the galge games due to being stuck in the girl's body
:lol
Oh, I remember that one now! That was a pretty good one, methinks. :lol
 
Infinite Justice said:
the nearest it ever went was a soul swap mixup with one of the girls and he started to like playing the male equivalent of the galge games due to being stuck in the girl's body
:lol
And he mastered that shit. Boys, girls, demons, he'll capture them all.

zoku88 said:
Oh, I remember that one now! That was a pretty good one, methinks.
The best arc in the series.
firehawk12 said:
I think it's because the series posits the hypothesis that playing enough Love Plus will enable you to "flag" every girl in sight.
I think you're taking it too seriously.
 
Infinite Justice said:
the nearest it ever went was a soul swap mixup and he started to like playing the male equivalent of the galge games due to being stuck in the girl's body
:lol

Well, that's different. :lol

Dresden said:
I think you're taking it too seriously.

I'm just like the dude. Harems are srs bsns!

But really, I don't see it as any different from other harems. It claims to be self-aware by pointing out the absurdities, but it un-ironically reproduces the very same cliches that it claims to be mocking.

Maybe that spoiler will change things up anyway.
 
Halycon said:
What are they doing now. It's a harem without all the "does he like me do I like him" bullshit that drags on for half the series before they even hold hands. Or the same gags over and over and over again. It tries to stay fresh, taking the same formula and applying it different ways each arc.

He's macking on girls left and right and he'll never have to lose his head over them unlike some other harem lead I could mention.

Okay except maybe Elsea but she didn't mean to! Her head's on the line as well.

If you guys call this wish fulfillment then I guess it's the first wish fulfillment story for people who are completely confident in their ability to get into girls' pants. Really, what kind of otaku can relate directly to Keima? He's a goddamn teenage Casanova.

Typical Harem: Extraordinary stuff happens to loser guy and girls are all over him for no reason
TWGOK Harem: Eroge nerd shapes the world and people around him according to his ideals with social engineering and style.
If the whole show is like the first episode, it's just a monster-of-the-week shounen with some harem tropes.

It might be interesting with a good writer, but the first episode was so silly, and the girl's character so unbelievable, that it was just lame.
 
Dresden said:
And he mastered that shit. Boys, girls, demons, he'll capture them all.


Indeed he still got it. Could give Ash a run for his money :lol

He's macking on girls left and right and he'll never have to lose his head over them unlike some other harem lead I could mention.

Well he could lose his head in the literal sense, hence why hes doing it (plus for Elsee also).
 
i just watched ep2 of World God only knows, i liked it, also it looks like its gonna follow the manga.

also can some make a gif of elsia crashing into school tables when kemia "confessed" to her.
 
firehawk12 said:
It's new and I'm bored. What the hell, right?

I mean I guess it's episodic enough for that but you'd still have very little idea of what's going on without knowing the characters. Though I guess you could get by as long as you know that anyone with an odd physical trait is an alien and everyone else is an idiot.
 
firehawk12 said:
I think it's because the series posits the hypothesis that playing enough Love Plus will enable you to "flag" every girl in sight.
You'd be surprised. Just read my book:
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If the whole show is like the first episode, it's just a monster-of-the-week shounen with some harem tropes.
Since when did "monster of the week shounen" include solving teenage girls' personal and psychological problems?

I'm serious it's like you guys don't even sound like you're criticizing TWGOK, but Love Hina or Negima or something.

EDIT: There ARE flags in real life you know. Not as explicit or as easily analogous to dating sim tropes but there are moments when if you say the right thing a person's view of you will be improved.

Do you guys also complain that Alistair would go all -Approval whenever you made an assholish decisions?

"Bu-bu-bu-but it's not realistic!"
 
cosmicblizzard said:
I mean I guess it's episodic enough for that but you'd still have very little idea of what's going on without knowing the characters. Though I guess you could get by as long as you know that anyone with an odd physical trait is an alien and everyone else is an idiot.

I just noticed all typical characters. Alien babe, little sister, class rep, best friend... oh, and another alien babe. :lol
 
firehawk12 said:
But really, I don't see it as any different from other harems. It claims to be self-aware by pointing out the absurdities, but it un-ironically reproduces the very same cliches that it claims to be mocking.
That was my problem with it as well.

"Stupid demon, I can only seduce 2D women! Real women are nothing like that!"

*Cue cliched anime girl that falls for stupid unrealistic crap.
 
Halycon said:
Since when did "monster of the week shounen" include solving teenage girls' personal and psychological problems?

When they become possessed by evil lost souls? It's the same thing but instead of fighting them, you have to make them fall in love with you.

Yes, I know I'm oversimplifying it.
 
Halycon said:
Since when did "monster of the week shounen" include solving teenage girls' personal and psychological problems?
Monster-of-the-week shows being about more than just the monster is as old as anime itself.
 
So your real trouble is with the "<x> of the week" formula?

When they become possessed by evil lost souls? It's the same thing but instead of fighting them, you have to make them fall in love with you.
Like crabs and snails and monkeys and shit like that?
 
Branduil said:
That was my problem with it as well.

"Stupid demon, I can only seduce 2D women! Real women are nothing like that!"

*Cue cliched anime girl that falls for stupid unrealistic crap.
Yeah, that's my thing with it as well. I don't mind it, because "harems is as harems does", as Forrest Gump might say, but at the moment it doesn't seem to be more than what it appears. Much like OreImo for me, actually.

Hellsing321 said:
You'd be surprised. Just read my book:
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"Devotionals for Teens". Jeez. :lol

Wasn't there a book like that which came up a lot in one of the Girl Age threads a while ago? Didn't it say that you should basically be an asshole and you'll hook up almost all the time?

You know, this actually reminds me of that movie, "The Tao of Steve", where a guy says that being like Steve McQueen enables him to sleep with any woman ever. What made that interesting was that his self-confidence unraveled and it became clear he was overcompensating to deal with his low self-esteem... I can only hope TWOGK goes that deep (or as deep as Onani Master anyway. :lol).

Halycon said:
Like crabs and snails and monkeys and shit like that?
I figure most people thought Bakemonogatari subverts the harem by having the dude pick and stick with a girl in the first few episodes?
 
cosmicblizzard said:
When they become possessed by evil lost souls? It's the same thing but instead of fighting them, you have to make them fall in love with you.

Yes, I know I'm oversimplifying it.

actually you don't have to
 
firehawk12 said:
I figure most people thought Bakemonogatari subverts the harem by having the dude pick and stick with a girl in the first few episodes?
How many harems did not have the iconic hero/heroine pairing?

I mean the moment you discover the Childhood Promise it's pretty much obvious who they're going to end up with.

In one episode:

Bakemono: Araragi got stapled in his mouth, verbally abused by the girl he saved, caught sight of his friend's panties when the wind blew up her skirt for a second, and outsourced his problems to a satanist hobo dressed in a hawaiian shirt living in an abandoned school who keeps a quit barely dressed jailbait girl nearby for no apparent reason.

TWGOK:
"Okay okay just let me get to a save point"
::BOW CHIKA BOW WOW::
"Back to the game!"

Sure the former is much more interesting but you can't deny that Keima accomplished more in one episode than Araragi did the entire series.
 
Halycon said:
How many harems did not have the iconic hero/heroine pairing?

I mean the moment you discover the Childhood Promise it's pretty much obvious who they're going to end up with.

Isn't the point of a harem that there is no "real" ending?
 
Is it? I have no idea. I read Negima, that turned into a shounen. And I read to-Love-ru, which didn't have an ending for other reasons.

When i said "end up with" i mean, when all is said and done, about 20 years in the future, who hooked up with who and what do their children look like.

I don't care if TWGOK isn't your thing but please don't criticize it by arguing the same points you'd argue against shit like Love Hina.
 
Halycon said:
Is it? I have no idea. I read Negima, that turned into a shounen. And I read to-Love-ru, which didn't have an ending for other reasons. I read Love Hina for a bit but got bored.

When i said "end up with" i mean, when all is said and done, about 20 years in the future, who hooked up with who and what do their children look like.

Look at Amagami SS - the whole point of that show is to have six endings because the typical harem ends with the status quo being preserved.

Then again, the last "real" harem I watched not counting Seitokai Yakuindomo is probably that Ichiban Daimou show... or BakaTest, so I admit I'm not exactly an authority on the genre.
 
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